Mindef policy of early retirement for senior army officers.
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Your reason and oil might well be the basis behind the war. However, there could never be a war without popular support. Hence, the reason for the war is stupidity and blind nationalism.Originally posted by countdracula:the usa went to war because bush got lobbied by the defense contractors...they wanted to make and sell weapons....it's a trillion dollar industry right now....america has more than 30mil living under poverty level....if bush gets his $2.9 trillion, that would mean every poor in america could have received $100k ++ per head.....what a waste of money..... -
Chief of air force? If he has not had any actual aerial combat experience, he should stay on in RSAF and master the skill of flying an UAV(unmanned aerial vehicle).Originally posted by norm:The Chief of Air Force is a President's Scholar. Has 6/6 perfect eyesight. May well be the next Defence Minister.
Planes without pilots may be used in future dogfights. He can start off by flying kites. -
Another minister woth mentioning is Ong Pang Boon. He was our minister of education. He had strong roots in two influential areas, one of which was among the poor. Ong’s wife Chan Choy Siong was also a champion of the underdog. It is generally believed that when Ong was bercoming more popular and enjoying more support than our great leader, both Ong and his wife Chan were sent to the United States on a long sabbatical. Chan was a PAP parliamentarian to be compulsorily retired to ‘make way for new blood’.Originally posted by robertteh:It is a system where the leader is feeling extremely insecure about his position. So he retires all the good people as early as possible using excuses like putting in new blood or talents to revitalise the older leaders ..err except the leader himself.
So Goh Keng Swee was too good in his job and might pose a challenge to his position. Toh Chin Chye has the strategic outlook about what singapore needs to survive and upgrade.
One by one all will have to go under the name of new blood replacing old blood and they were all gotten rid of.
Military men were conceived as people who are likely to create power base and they were all subjected to rotational deployments.
Ministers too were treated in the same way and many were shifted out of their established ministry to avoid building of loyality or power base.
This has been our self-centred leadership system for years. That is why singpapore has no chance to build excellence.
I googled and yahooed for more articles about this couple but didn't find much to read. -
How singaporeans are going to enjoy happiness when leadership is self centred?Originally posted by robertteh:It is a system where the leader is feeling extremely insecure about his position. So he retires all the good people as early as possible using excuses like putting in new blood or talents to revitalise the older leaders ..err except the leader himself.
So Goh Keng Swee was too good in his job and might pose a challenge to his position. Toh Chin Chye has the strategic outlook about what singapore needs to survive and upgrade.
One by one all will have to go under the name of new blood replacing old blood and they were all gotten rid of.
Military men were conceived as people who are likely to create power base and they were all subjected to rotational deployments.
Ministers too were treated in the same way and many were shifted out of their established ministry to avoid building of loyality or power base.
This has been our self-centred leadership system for years. That is why singpapore has no chance to build excellence. -
Yah, and you see what fcuk up strategies US came out with in IRAQ, cuz these old man never update themselves and gets dissociated by strategizing in their ivory towers...
Mindef is good in allow them to early promote, do something good/great while they are up there, and then let others have to chance to do their stuff too. Not like USA where the big oldies stay on top and prevent young ones from coming up.
Also, MINDEF will always give good management jobs to these people when they finish they jobs up there, like some CEO or General Manager or in GOVERMENT jobs or MPs, so that they can further grow, in terms of knowledge on other stuffs, like a new field, etc. Pay almost always increase also.
So, my take is good one for Mindef.
failure in iraq is not military wise but rather political they fail. making promotion a fast lane will only create too many half colonels, colonels, BG, rear admirals whose combats experience is minimal.
we should bring in too many generals into the public sector. only the best ones maybe. look at those rear admirals who run the LRT? why should these generals be given the fast lane to excel in the public sector. they should make out a career by themselves. that what i call a successful man! -
So much for the idea that Democratic victory in November's mid-term elections would put an end the war. One look at the five year chart of the Amex Defense Industry Index (shown above) should make that perfectly clear. As you can see, the index has been in a steady uptrend since the start of the war in March 2003, has over tripled in value, and is now surging - presumably with our troop levels in Iraq - to a new all time high.Originally posted by countdracula:the usa went to war because bush got lobbied by the defense contractors...they wanted to make and sell weapons....it's a trillion dollar industry right now....america has more than 30mil living under poverty level....if bush gets his $2.9 trillion, that would mean every poor in america could have received $100k ++ per head.....what a waste of money.....
The index is composed of fourteen stocks, listed below:
Armor Holdings (AH)
Alliant Technology Systems (ATK)
Boeing (BA)
Rockwell Collins (COL)
DRS Technologies (DRS)
EDO Corp (EDO)
Flir Systems (FLIR)
General Dynamics (GD)
Goodrich Corp (GR)
L-3 Communications (LLL)
Lockheed Martin (LMT)
Northrop Grummon (NOC)
Ratheon (RTN)
United Industrial (UIC)
All of these companies are in the business of making the stuff that wars are fought with - weapons, armor, planes, guns, bombs, ammunition, and/or electronics and communications systems. And all (of course) share one well-known and very well-to-do customer in common: The United States Government.
http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/nystrom/2007/0216.html -
Unfortunately, there is no such thing as 'early retirement' for the top brass of our SAF. As with all other govt positions, their supposed 'retirement' is actually a transition to a top position in a GLC, ensuring these ex-high fliers continue to sing the song of the govt in their respective fields.Originally posted by qpicanto:Top army officers must give up their full time military post for secondment b4 45.
This has resulted many young generals 'floating' around taking up top post in statutory board. Couple of them also get into politics.
We also read about their military rankings ( reservist ) on the newpapers. Since have to serve to 50 why 'retire' so early. Singapore should have a couple of more experienced and matured generals in the Mindef too see us through in time of crisis.
USA General Peter Pace the current Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is 62 year old.
Canada's General Hillier the Chief of the Defence Staff of the Canadian Forces is 52 years old.
Singapore chief got replace at around 42-44 years considerable young age.
Govt says we lack of talents.
What the implications on the image of the country with more and more generals running the shows in the future. Our practice is abit different from the West.
Comments , comments please.
How many meangingless positions have been created to accomodate them? During my time working in a GLC, i came to realise that such people sat in position of authority where they answered to no one and no one answered to them - a redundant position in short. Yet such GLCs continue to fork out an exhorbitant wage to feed these trolls, money that could be used to reward other more deserving employees instead of an 'old hand' who is totally out of touch outside the confines of the SAF. -
this is so encouraging..Originally posted by BillyBong:Unfortunately, there is no such thing as 'early retirement' for the top brass of our SAF. As with all other govt positions, their supposed 'retirement' is actually a transition to a top position in a GLC, ensuring these ex-high fliers continue to sing the song of the govt in their respective fields.
How many meangingless positions have been created to accomodate them? During my time working in a GLC, i came to realise that such people sat in position of authority where they answered to no one and no one answered to them - a redundant position in short. Yet such GLCs continue to fork out an exhorbitant wage to feed these trolls, money that could be used to reward other more deserving employees instead of an 'old hand' who is totally out of touch outside the confines of the SAF.