Budget benefits for the elderly, too.... hahahahaha
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CPF initially was meant for retirement. So why are old folks who work still have to contribute to CPF? They are definitely not eligible to buy another artificially inflated HDB.
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This is more Sporean young people should plan their immigration plan.Originally posted by mistyblue:CPF initially was meant for retirement. So why are old folks who work still have to contribute to CPF? They are definitely not eligible to buy another artificially inflated HDB.
when the old folks have to work, shouldn't the CPF be paid back to them monthly since this is money that the worker had be forced to save all their working lives. -
Not to mention food courts and shopping centres.. Our elderly are expected - no, forced.. to forego retirement in favour of physically exhausting work... and we're supposed to be okay with it?Originally posted by gill_hfc:This is the only 'developed' country i know where 60 year old ladies wash toilets and clean lifts in office blocks.
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Originally posted by spinsugar:
My mother -in-law who is 71 yrs old n she is under hospice care n admitted to Roverpark Hospice hopistal which charge S$210 per Day,more than a 5 stars hotel room rates.
Not to mention food courts and shopping centres.. Our elderly are expected - no, forced.. to forego retirement in favour of physically exhausting work... and we're supposed to be [b]okay with it?
Our leaders are sick in the mind.[/b]
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Nowadays seldom hear from the oppositions opposing anti people policies made by the ruling party. What happen to the oppositions in paliament?Originally posted by bladez87:can some of u go be opposition? to stand up and voice all this out to the open public, to the masses. what u all say makes sense, but no point saying them here since it is within a confined audience.
what i said above is sugarcoated.
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Yeah.. Singapore is a rich man's land, where the poor ~ middle class have to work their lives away to sustain the excessive lifestyles of the upper class & above.. I hope the ministers don't choke on their million dollar salaries.Originally posted by foomwee88:My mother -in-law who is 71 yrs old n she is under hospice care n admitted to Roverpark Hospice hopistal which charge S$210 per Day,more than a 5 stars hotel room rates.
This is a daylight robbery!!! that why We said better to die than get sick in Sinkapore!!!!
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If you are an Opposition party, you will feel a "gun" pointed at the back of your head - that's why there has been no remarks or comments from them...Originally posted by (human):Nowadays seldom hear from the oppositions opposing anti people policies made by the ruling party. What happen to the oppositions in paliament? -
If I was a Director/VP/CEO I would gladly NOT retire. Sit there in my personal aircon office collect PEANUTS who dowan. Go Food Junction apply for job to collect and wash dishes at 65 see you want anot, THEN COME AND SAY IT IS GOOD FOR THE ELDERLY TO WORK!
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many people prefer to live with their heads buried in the ground because, frankly, when you look at the reality it is just too painful...
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"Although Singapore has always lagged behind many developed countries such as the United States and Japan in this aspect, he believes the Republic should now aim to achieve the same employment rate for older workers as Japan's current rate."
Give us the salaries amount of the bottom 50% of those that work in Japan and the US and compare it with the cost of housing and cars there than tok!
Also, give us a breakdown of the type of jobs the bottom 50% of "elderly workers" working there in terms of salaries and the type of jobs the bottom 50% of the elderly working in Singapore, than tok!
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What is older workers age in Japan and US and what is the age of the elderly working in Singapore? Use your common sense.
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You might want to take into consideration the cost of a take away meals in USA and Japan. I am sure you cant find a S$2.50 meal in those country can you? Plus, have you also consider the cost of transportation in those country? try taking a cab in USA or Japan.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:"Although Singapore has always lagged behind many developed countries such as the United States and Japan in this aspect, he believes the Republic should now aim to achieve the same employment rate for older workers as Japan's current rate."
Give us the salaries amount of the bottom 50% of those that work in Japan and the US and compare it with the cost of housing and cars there than tok!
Also, give us a breakdown of the type of jobs the bottom 50% of "elderly workers" working there in terms of salaries and the type of jobs the bottom 50% of the elderly working in Singapore, than tok!
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Well, seems like some really old folks are dying in their homes quietly until someone smell it.Originally posted by foomwee88:My mother -in-law who is 71 yrs old n she is under hospice care n admitted to Roverpark Hospice hopistal which charge S$210 per Day,more than a 5 stars hotel room rates.
This is a daylight robbery!!! that why We said better to die than get sick in Sinkapore!!!!
Maybe because they dont wan to trouble anyone(cause everyone is so selfish nowadays) or they're totally broke and doesn't understand how to get their money out from CPF(will he/she be blamed for such ignorance?).
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I think there is also another key difference... did their government take away their money and the money of their children, leaving them in such a state?Originally posted by Gazelle:You might want to take into consideration the cost of a take away meals in USA and Japan. I am sure you cant find a S$2.50 meal in those country can you? Plus, have you also consider the cost of transportation in those country? try taking a cab in USA or Japan. -
If their government took away their money in those countries, they get it back in terms of free medical and benefits! Here the money is taken away for what? Invest in Shin Corp?
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Like spending close to US$1 trillion fighting a meaningless war in Iraq and causing the oil price to shoot skyhigh so that companies like Exxonmobil, Chevron etc will make record billion dollar profits and their CEO will all get hundreds of million dollars payout.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:If their government took away their money in those countries, they get it back in terms of free medical and benefits! Here the money is taken away for what? Invest in Shin Corp?
At the same time, Hurricane Katrina will flush out all the black "aliens" in New Orleans and get them killed rob and rape while President Bush is busy arranging his next "Pinic" at his Texas ranch.
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Are you trying to change the topic? There will always be countries better and worse, what I want to know is:Originally posted by Gazelle:Like spending close to US$1 trillion fighting a meaningless war in Iraq and causing the oil price to shoot skyhigh so that companies like Exxonmobil, Chevron etc will make record billion dollar profits and their CEO will all get hundreds of million dollars payout.
At the same time, Hurricane Katrina will flush out all the black "aliens" from the New Orleans and get them killed rope and rape while President Bush is busy arranging his next "Pinic" at his Texas ranch.
"Should they take all that money to provide benefits for the elderly or invest in Shin Corp and ask the elderly to work until they step 6 feet underground?"
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Check out the minimum wage in America.Originally posted by Gazelle:You might want to take into consideration the cost of a take away meals in USA and Japan. I am sure you cant find a S$2.50 meal in those country can you? Plus, have you also consider the cost of transportation in those country? try taking a cab in USA or Japan.
http://www.dol.gov/esa/minwage/america.htm
Try buying a car in Singapore.
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right, at least you are using your common sense!Originally posted by bigmouthjoe:Check out the minimum wage in America.
http://www.dol.gov/esa/minwage/america.htm
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This is what happen when cars are too cheap and salary of workers are too high.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:Are you trying to change the topic? There will always be countries better and worse, what I want to know is:
"Should they take all that money to provide benefits for the elderly or invest in Shin Corp and ask the elderly to work until they step 6 feet underground?"
"Should they take all that money to invest in Shin Corp and then raise GST from 5% to 7%?"
http://www.kare11.com/money/business_article.aspx?storyid=148863
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_world_business/view/258695/1/.html
Retirement age will have to move in tandem with human life span unless you have enough savings to last you through.
I am not sure if the GST is related to Shin Corp, because what shin corp is experiencing is still a paper lost. I remember not so long ago when Singtel bought over Optus in Australia, many Singaporeans are singing the same song about LEE family using tax payer's money for overseas acquisition etc. And now that Optus is generating decent profits to Singtel, I dont see anybody complaining about why singtel share has gone up by so much.
I dont think we should speculate that GST is relative to Shin Corp, lets wait till the budget annoucement later today and see what the government has to offer for the people. I am sure they will be focusing on the aging population more than the young and able. -
Their losses were due to better alternatives available in the market, namely the Japanese cars and their inflexibility in adapting to the market needs and wants. In the dog-eat-dog world outside, no one cares about your past reputation, it's about what you can give them now.Originally posted by Gazelle:This is what happen when cars are too cheap and salary of workers are too high.
http://www.kare11.com/money/business_article.aspx?storyid=148863
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_world_business/view/258695/1/.html -
Cars and COE? see: http://www.newsintercom.org/index.php?itemid=497Originally posted by Gazelle:This is what happen when cars are too cheap and salary of workers are too high.
http://www.kare11.com/money/business_article.aspx?storyid=148863
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_world_business/view/258695/1/.html
Retirement age will have to move in tandem with human life span unless you have enough savings to last you through.
I am not sure if the GST is related to Shin Corp, because what shin corp is experiencing is still a paper lost. I remember not so long ago when Singtel bought over Optus in Australia, many Singaporeans are singing the same song about LEE family using tax payer's money for overseas acquisition etc. And now that Optus is generating decent profits to Singtel, I dont see anybody complaining about why singtel share has gone up by so much.
I dont think we should speculate that GST is relative to Shin Corp, lets wait till the budget annoucement later today and see what the government has to offer for the people. I am sure they will be focusing on the aging population more than the young and able.
Do you have any idea how much money Singtel wrote off for OPTUS? The "profits" you mentioned should also go into this thread: "Peanut" and other uniquely Singaporean words -
I believe the inability for the USA companies to compete is because they are inefficent in their way of life, from manufacturing process right down to the fuel efficency of the engine. And the reason is because amercians are living in a dream, where everything has got to be big, House, Car, Salary, Vacation etc.Originally posted by bigmouthjoe:Their losses were due to better alternatives available in the market, namely the Japanese cars and their inflexibility in adapting to the market needs and wants. In the dog-eat-dog world outside, no one cares about your past reputation, it's about what you can give them now.
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Why all the new rules after rules, new benefits after benifits makes me feel poorer & more depressing?
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You do know that the reason why cars are so expensive in Singapore is because of taxes? Technically speaking, the price of cars here ought to be the similar to the US but because the Govt chose to regulate consumption and force people to buy new COE after 10 years, the prices naturally get inflated.Originally posted by Gazelle:This is what happen when cars are too cheap and salary of workers are too high.
http://www.kare11.com/money/business_article.aspx?storyid=148863
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_world_business/view/258695/1/.html
Retirement age will have to move in tandem with human life span unless you have enough savings to last you through.
I am not sure if the GST is related to Shin Corp, because what shin corp is experiencing is still a paper lost. I remember not so long ago when Singtel bought over Optus in Australia, many Singaporeans are singing the same song about LEE family using tax payer's money for overseas acquisition etc. And now that Optus is generating decent profits to Singtel, I dont see anybody complaining about why singtel share has gone up by so much.
I dont think we should speculate that GST is relative to Shin Corp, lets wait till the budget annoucement later today and see what the government has to offer for the people. I am sure they will be focusing on the aging population more than the young and able.
Otherwise, the car companies make similar profits per car. Do go and understand some economics.