You don't get it, do you? The grown-up son doing that to his bastard of a father is exactly karma. Karma is on the bastard father, not his own son of a bastard. He cheated his mum of her house, then threw her out. Didn't even bother to find her a place to stay in. She worked as a cleaner to bring him up, and he left her to die on the streets? He's a doctor. I believe uneducated labourers or even stray dogs have more conscience than to do that.Originally posted by Fatum:no .... his son is innocent ... why wish this kind of bad karma upon him cos of what his parents did to his grandmother, right ? ....
but this is a lesson to us all ..... we all need to be financially independent in our golden years, and cannot depend on our children to support us. Having children who are successful professionals but unwilling to support their children is one thing, there are plenty of examples too where the children are barely making ends meet supporting themselves AND their own children ....
I'll repay my parents for everything that they have given me of course, but I won't want to saddle my children with the expectations of supporting me and my wifey in our golden years ...
Is it not pathetic that for one who is so highly educated, you can only address a single point, and ignore the other issues that are central to this matter that were raised ?Originally posted by oxford mushroom:If not for the government's foresight with the Maintenance of Parents Bill, this old lady will not be able to claim the $1,600 a month for her living. As usual, Atobe is against all government policies that he is barking up the wrong tree again...
You have no points, only rants. Since when has the moral failings of an individual been just the fault of the government? Yang bu jiao, fu zi guo. Jiao bu yan, shi zi duo. It is mostly the fault of his parents and teachers.Originally posted by Atobe:Is it not pathetic that for one who is so highly educated, you can only address a single point, and ignore the other issues that are central to this matter that were raised ?
If you must learn to bark correctly, at least have some passion with the growl and have more bite behind the bark, instead of being a uselessly noisy pet to the Power of ONE, who may not even appreciate all your useless efforts.
Are you suggesting that the government should be absolved from this responsibility completely?Originally posted by oxford mushroom:You have no points, only rants. Since when has the moral failings of an individual been just the fault of the government? Yang bu jiao, fu zi guo. Jiao bu yan, shi zi duo. It is mostly the fault of his parents and teachers.
If you have had any teaching in Confucianism at all, you will appreciate that it is precisely the lack of sufficient grounding in confucian ethics that is the root cause of such behaviour.
Young people nowadays ought to be given a heavier dose of confucian ethics, supplemented by good old caning on the backside.
Yes, this is exactly my stand as well; a society's character is shaped by the government and their policies - basically the system.Originally posted by spinsugar:Are you suggesting that the government should be absolved from this responsibility completely?
While I agree to some extent that the individual must hold some personal responsibility for his/her own choices in life, should a government not expect to share the blame if the society it nurtured with its own policies and campaigns turned out this way?
A country is like a parent, its citizens like its children. Can a parent be completely blameless for his/her own child's poor character and/or misdeeds?
Well, OM is supposedly a quitter living in Mother England.Originally posted by maurizio13:Maybe it's OM, from his post he has shown us what he is capable of. Moreover he claims to be a doctor.
Frankly, I wouldn't be the least surprise if it turns out to be him.
Actually, the trend of children getting more and more spoilt and undisciplined has been happening in many other countries as well, it's a sign of a developed country (except China, China is unique with it's one-child policy and the policy has got real repercussions). It's very convenient to blame the gov for this, but if you've seen the trend in many other countries as well, then you'd think twice about assigning blame. At the end of day, if people are willing to take responsibility for their own actions, then situations like that could have been avoided. Marriage is a gamble, having kids is a gamble, no one knows how things will turn out in the end.Originally posted by ShutterBug:Yes, this is exactly my stand as well; a society's character is shaped by the government and their policies - basically the system.
Right now I can see that the shortage of babies have made children even more 'precious', to the extent of them being treated like royalties in schools - cannot scold them, can't touch them, can't even raise your voice at them, etc. This will only lead to more such ingrates in society, who chucks their parents at the whim of their spouse's or career's demands.![]()
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I disagreed with U after we had married for more than 28 years and have 3 children!!!Originally posted by saffron60:Actually, the trend of children getting more and more spoilt and undisciplined has been happening in many other countries as well, it's a sign of a developed country (except China, China is unique with it's one-child policy and the policy has got real repercussions). It's very convenient to blame the gov for this, but if you've seen the trend in many other countries as well, then you'd think twice about assigning blame. At the end of day, if people are willing to take responsibility for their own actions, then situations like that could have been avoided. Marriage is a gamble, having kids is a gamble, no one knows how things will turn out in the end.
i say marriage is a gamble because some things may be within your control but others may not be. No matter how well parents raise their kids, there is no guarantee that the children will turn out to be model citizens, it's not all based on karma. In fact, if you place the outcome of things just based on karma, it's like pushing your responsiblity on 'karma' and expecting 'it' to make things right for you.Taking responsibility for you own actions is something which is within your control but forcing someone to take responsibility for their actions is not.Originally posted by foomwee88:I disagreed with U after we had married for more than 28 years and have 3 children!!!
I can tell u mariage is not a gamble but a fate,having children who r faithful to us r our and/or parents'Karma!!!!
Hence,dont do harm or hurt others then u will be blessed!!!otherwise, bad karma may not happen to u now but it sure be occured at a later date!!!