DISCRIMINATION AGAINST NS SERVING SINGAPOREANS!
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DISCRIMINATION AGAINST NS SERVING SINGAPOREANS!
Last Friday I went for an interview at this Fabrication plant U..i at Pasir Ris. The fab claims itself as the 2nd largest in the world.
It was a 1 to 1 interview with a fat Taiwanese manager. The Very First thing the manager asked me after my introduction is
Taiwanese Pig Manager: "I see you are a Singaporean. Do you need to go back to serve NS every year?"
I replied Yes, I do need to go back
Taiwanese Pig Manager: "Oh, so you have been going back even during your uni studies?"
Me : "Yes, at least once per year.
Then came the f-up remarks
Taiwanese Pig Manager: "How long do you need to go back every year? You Know, I once have this Singaporean Subordinate. He every year need to go back for like 2 weeks of in camp training, then still need to apply leave every now and then for some kind of briefing talks by NS."
"Worse, he needs to pass some kind of physical test every Year, so when he trains for his test by running in the night, he will have no energy to do work in the morning, Affect Job Performance. Then if he fails, need to attend RT, waste of company time."
"If every Singaporean needs to do all this, then I rather don't hire you all then. 1 year you all will have like a few months no need to work due to NS, And you also are quite old compare to other graduates"
SINGAPOREANS MALES ARE GOING TO SUFFER FROM THIS INFLUX OF FTs AS WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A FKING EVEN GROUND TO COMPETE ON!! -
taiwanese also need to serve NS wad....Originally posted by kilua:Taken from
http://forums.hardwarezone.com/showthread.php?t=1541171&page=1&pp=15
DISCRIMINATION AGAINST NS SERVING SINGAPOREANS!
Last Friday I went for an interview at this Fabrication plant U..i at Pasir Ris. The fab claims itself as the 2nd largest in the world.
It was a 1 to 1 interview with a fat Taiwanese manager. The Very First thing the manager asked me after my introduction is
Taiwanese Pig Manager: "I see you are a Singaporean. Do you need to go back to serve NS every year?"
I replied Yes, I do need to go back
Taiwanese Pig Manager: "Oh, so you have been going back even during your uni studies?"
Me : "Yes, at least once per year.
Then came the f-up remarks
Taiwanese Pig Manager: "How long do you need to go back every year? You Know, I once have this Singaporean Subordinate. He every year need to go back for like 2 weeks of in camp training, then still need to apply leave every now and then for some kind of briefing talks by NS."
"Worse, he needs to pass some kind of physical test every Year, so when he trains for his test by running in the night, he will have no energy to do work in the morning, Affect Job Performance. Then if he fails, need to attend RT, waste of company time."
"If every Singaporean needs to do all this, then I rather don't hire you all then. 1 year you all will have like a few months no need to work due to NS, And you also are quite old compare to other graduates"
SINGAPOREANS MALES ARE GOING TO SUFFER FROM THIS INFLUX OF FTs AS WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A FKING EVEN GROUND TO COMPETE ON!!
either dat manager has no brains or dey tiko only wan to employ gerls -
no, actually what he says is true. it makes no economical sense to employ a singapore male who has ns obligations and for higher pay(due to ns, not sure if it applies for private sector though)Originally posted by hiphop2009:taiwanese also need to serve NS wad....
either dat manager has no brains or dey tiko only wan to employ gerls -
if you think Singaporeans know how to keng from NS, you can imagine what kind of kenging those Taiwanese and Koreans can think of right ? ...Originally posted by hiphop2009:taiwanese also need to serve NS wad....
either dat manager has no brains or dey tiko only wan to employ gerls
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Unfortunately, because of the NS mandatory service period, locals will find themselves recalled annually, to the ultimate chargrin of managers who suddenly find themselves with a temporary short-fall.
Technically, various companies cannot be blamed if they choose not to hire locals specifically because of this. At least the 'Taiwanese Pig Manager' was honest in his obvious dislike towards locals required to perform annual disappearing acts. Others simply make no mention of why they chose other applicants over you. -
ya i understand but then with the locals making up most of the workforce, it seems illogical n ridiculous not to hire the locals, for this case, the males....Originally posted by BillyBong:Unfortunately, because of the NS mandatory service period, locals will find themselves recalled annually, to the ultimate chargrin of managers who suddenly find themselves with a temporary short-fall.
Technically, various companies cannot be blamed if they choose not to hire locals specifically because of this. At least the 'Taiwanese Pig Manager' was honest in his obvious dislike towards locals required to perform annual disappearing acts. Others simply make no mention of why they chose other applicants over you.
wad a paradox, i muz say~ -
he can always hire females and guys who are unfit for NS
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I think what Billy Bong means is its very logical to prefer foreigners over locals males.So in the Job market, after the foreigners had the pick of their jobs, the locals get the leftovers.Originally posted by hiphop2009:ya i understand but then with the locals making up most of the workforce, it seems illogical n ridiculous not to hire the locals, for this case, the males....
wad a paradox, i muz say~
From a pragmatic point of view, i dont think the manager is wrong in giving foreigners priority. -
And what are you going to do about it?
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hahaha.... like it or not, the manager have not choice..... all S'porean male will have to go in-camp. Labour law states that he can't just employ all non-singaporean..... Shoot him to MOM, let that A*shole kena lah.
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Well they are not the only job around you know.
I think we are all clear that NS will have a pragmatic impact on our lives, and not to mention affecting many other areas as well... the issue is what the government intends to do about it. I do not believe soaring unemployment and discontent is really in their favour.
But in the meantime suck thumb lor, find a way around it... confirm got companies will want to take you one mah. -
write to MOM?
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You are not the only one.
Most NSMen have the same response from Private Sectors.
One interviewer asks why do you tell me that your ICT is due next month?
"Do you love your country this much?"
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All these companies are bloody whiners.
If you cannot work your operations to suit Singaporeans' ICT requirements, get the fcuk out. -
he can go eat himself seriously.
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honestly, young singaporean males have to go ns for a bad reason.. national security? to root singaporean males.. like hell you make us slightly unemployable overseas to prevent brain drain? waste our youth.. imo, dunnid make it compulsary.. SURE got ppl will enlist for ns one.. i know MANY muscle brains.. i have a classmate who thinks he's fucking good-looking and he looks forward to ns.. says it's IMPORTANT.. well he's damn stupid.. dunno how he got into the same jc as me.. so many other examples!! we're wasting our youth away.. if we want to strengthen our roots to the country, ns isn't helping dun you think? most ns men detest the country more after ROD..
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NS is not all about social bonding.
Much as I wish we would shift to selective service, at this time, it still serves our strategic interest to have conscription. -
haiz...make all those gers pregnant lor! Two months maternity leave is far longer than any ICTOriginally posted by hiphop2009:taiwanese also need to serve NS wad....
either dat manager has no brains or dey tiko only wan to employ gerls
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PES E FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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honestly, young singaporean males have to go ns for a bad reason.. national security? to root singaporean males.. like hell you make us slightly unemployable overseas to prevent brain drain? waste our youth.. imo, dunnid make it compulsary.. SURE got ppl will enlist for ns one.. i know MANY muscle brains.. i have a classmate who thinks he's @^&&ing good-looking and he looks forward to ns.. says it's IMPORTANT.. well he's damn stupid.. dunno how he got into the same jc as me.. so many other examples!! we're wasting our youth away.. if we want to strengthen our roots to the country, ns isn't helping dun you think? most ns men detest the country more after ROD..
Quite agreeable.National security?What security do we have?It is easy for potential aggressors to attack and take over the country within 24 hours before the U.S come and help us as promised within 24 hours..If given a chance,I wont serve NS
The rest who do not enlist for NS..can do other things to help the nation..does not means everything have to be physical -
Don't want to serve NS? Sure...Let me cut off your 3-piece suit and you won't have to serve like the gu-niangs.
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i'm sure the women dont get pregnant every yearOriginally posted by oxford mushroom:haiz...make all those gers pregnant lor! Two months maternity leave is far longer than any ICT -
like its gonna help.Originally posted by hloc:hahaha.... like it or not, the manager have not choice..... all S'porean male will have to go in-camp. Labour law states that he can't just employ all non-singaporean..... Shoot him to MOM, let that A*shole kena lah.
they go ask him why he don't hire ou and he can come up with toness for reasons from, he didn't do well in interview, other ple are more qualified to i don't like his face.
no way to prove otherwise too. that law is pretty useless alctually -
National service? Are you sure you are serving the nation or serving some thing else? Some people send their children to climb politic while many were sent to act like slaves.Originally posted by crofty:Quite agreeable.National security?What security do we have?It is easy for potential aggressors to attack and take over the country within 24 hours before the U.S come and help us as promised within 24 hours..If given a chance,I wont serve NS
The rest who do not enlist for NS..can do other things to help the nation..does not means everything have to be physical -
Why don't you read the article and then make an informed decision over who's jewels to stash away.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:Don't want to serve NS? Sure...Let me cut off your 3-piece suit and you won't have to serve like the gu-niangs.
This is very shocking coming from you.