I Can't Say that this is a Timely Realization...
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Unfortunately his love of the whites only extends to their worst aspects: ethnocentrism, closed-mindedness ignorance, xenophobia, superiority at the expense of others and what have you not.
Not that these flaws are only found in white people, but I must say that he seems to think that the worst propangada and opinion to come from them on other cultures are cool things for him to embrace.
The true virtue of the whites however, seem to be completely lost out on him if he can make the statements that he did.
But at the end of the day I must say it's really up to him. People can always choose to reconize the flaws within their own culture and work to improve it from within or abandon it entirely for another culture and pretend it's perfect and to live as something that they are not.
It is unfortunate indeed, that given Eurasian children are in a unique place to experience the best of both worlds, that some rather ignorant parents and relatives are trying to deny one-half of who they are.
And of course, lets not forget where talk of master races usually end up. Observe the Germans and Japanese in WW2, and you might get the clue.
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If you look at how the tradition of civil liberty was derived, you can hardly say it came from China.
Also, there is a secret formula to giving Chinkish names that revolves around which element a person was born under. Quite a pain to choose an auspicious name based on the number of strokes in the Taiwanese script.
Heck, is there any rule saying that the name Peter will not bring good luck for an Aquarian? -
The Geography of Thought
Nisbett, a psychologist and Distinguished University Professor at the University of Michigan at Ann Arbor, used to believe that "all human groups perceive and reason in the same way." A series of events and studies led him gradually to quite another view, that Asians and Westerners "have maintained very different systems of thought for thousands of years." Different how? "The collective or interdependent nature of Asian society is consistent with Asians' broad, contextual view of the world and their belief that events are highly complex and determined by many factors. The individualistic or independent nature of Western society seems consistent with the Western focus on particular objects in isolation from their context and with Westerners' belief that they can know the rules governing objects and therefore can control the objects' behavior." Nisbett explores areas that manifest these different approaches--among them medicine, law, science, human rights and international relations. Are the societal differences so great that they will lead to conflict? Nisbett thinks not. "I believe the twain shall meet by virtue of each moving in the direction of the other." -
I'm sorry, you don't seem to have made any point besides that you were simply too lazy to follow tradition.Originally posted by iveco:If you look at how the tradition of civil liberty was derived, you can hardly say it came from China.
Also, there is a secret formula to giving Chinkish names that revolves around which element a person was born under. Quite a pain to choose an auspicious name based on the number of strokes in the Taiwanese script.
Heck, is there any rule saying that the name Peter will not bring good luck for an Aquarian?
Also, I wonder if you are really willing to defend the so-called western concepts of suff like civil liberty you tout as superior as a true believer? Or are you simply one that tacks them on as and when it suits you and discards them once something else that suits you better?
Is can be a pain the uphold civil liberty at times... especially when it does you no good to do so. I can only wonder, given the ease at which you denounce traditions that others at least have the convictions to follow, if you are equally mercenary with whatever you believe in now...
I do not see how civil liberty cannot co-exist with traditional asian values. You on the other hand, seem to be unable to comprehend anything outside of a worldview seeped in ethnocentrism, and a rather flawed one to boot.
The irony is that your attitude and contempt towards some cultures, especially the use of the term "chinkish" appears to betray an inadequate understanding of some rather important tenets of western civil liberties.
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Tyrannosaur, if you feel that Took Leng How should have been convicted of manslaughter INSTEAD of murder, and that the 4 commandoes in the dunking case did INDEED commit manslaughter, I can say you have a sense of civil liberty.
Are you PREPARED to protest against the existence of CAPITAL PUNISHMENT and call for its IMMEDIATE repeal? Do you feel that the PAP can function better as a MINORITY government?
As for tradition, sometimes it is a pain to follow it without question.
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Seems like you are equally willing as well, to follow your "perception" of civil liberty without question, in a way that does not even serve it as well.
You only need to take a look around here to realize that a lot of people have their own ideas on how Singapore can change for the better, and they can apparently do that WITHOUT abandoning their culture, something that seems to be entirely lost on you.
How exactly a champion of civil liberties happily use the term "chinkish" with wild abandon is amazingly incongrous.
People can go about civil liberity without needing to see their own culture (or that of others) as "chinkish". It appears you are simply using this as an excuse, and a rather irrational one as well... as arrogrant and ignorant as people associate certain bad and arrogrant pratices as "western" pratices.
As you have demostrated, you seem to have accepted nothing worth accepting form the west, and more or less perverted the best things they have to offer.
It is indeed fortunate that most sensible people who are in touch with both east and west do not see things your way. -
We have no obligation to follow any tradition if we feel it steps over our free will.
Before doing anything, remember that if it harm no one, do what you will.
Anyway, the fact that the Celts had a shorter written history doesn't mean they are any less glorious, or less ancient than others. -
True enough...
Unfortunately one still does not understand your obession with needing to call some things "chinkish" and how it relates to the values you tot.
Is asian culture devoid of any worthy feature in your opinion? Or could the same criticism be applied to just about any culture but of which you seem to have unfortunately selected a rather offensive and racist term just for one particular culture.
Does denouncing some things as "chinkish" fufill the Wiccan creed of "if it harm no one, do what you will"? Or prehaps your convictions seem to be merely limited to physical acts and do not involve intercultural sensitivity and manners? -
Tyrannosaur, you are dealing with a quitter. While I advise you that it is better to stop wasting your breath, your posts have been entertaining at times.
Think about this: what makes a certain group give up tradition so easily while another group holds on to it until the world ends? -
If you find my posts entertaining or not is not really my concern, but it is my concern when certain terms are used to imply certain things that need to be dealt with.
But my question is this:
Have you not insulted, indirectly or not, many people here with your reckless use of the term "chinkish" to describe many things? Such as the format of names which many certainly hold in here, not to mention those who still see some worth in their roots and traditions.
If you want to be a quitter or not it's your choice, and I do not intend to knock anybody for choosing to abandon their own origins for what they percieve to be something better.
At the same time however, some respect would be good for those who decide to "stay", especially when they have done you no harm.
That said, I think you have some words to apologize for, or else whatever creed you may have choosen... it does not seem to show in your recent behaviour. -
I do not owe anyone a living or whatsoever for that matter. Tyrannosaur, you are welcome to waste your breath until the day armageddon strikes.
The best scenario that could befall the world now is Taiwan secceding formally from the mainland and the world adopting Jian Ti as the gold standard of Chinkish script. -
Why are they leaving?
Lao Goh answer his own question, bcos they are; bright young people!!!
Ours Foreign talents especially sports talent are more like foreign mercenaries.
Who ever pay more, where ever they will go. -
I do not need to waste my breath...Originally posted by iveco:I do not owe anyone a living or whatsoever for that matter. Tyrannosaur, you are welcome to waste your breath until the day armageddon strikes.
The best scenario that could befall the world now is Taiwan secceding formally from the mainland and the world adopting Jian Ti as the gold standard of Chinkish script.
Are you not by your very own words aready indicting yourself?
While you claim to be a free person, it seems that your actions indicate that you are a very poor steward of it.
The product perhaps, of a person who is so amadant on ridding himself of one school of thought that he becomes the very monster he sought to eliminate?
Your weak attempts to laugh off and dismiss your own behaviour aside (which are quite funny actuallyÂ… which resemble a person trying to hide behind a false smile of confidence), at the end of the day it hardly changes the fact of your poor understanding of the very concept of freedom and the responsibility it entails.
And that wonÂ’t change, until you do.
So am I wasting my breath? I think not. Even if I did not speak on your self-contradictory behaviour it shows for all to see. If you choose to recognize it is not my concern.