6 mth pregnant friend sick, Boss dun let her take MC
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Grrrgh.. last post before I knock off. Gonna make my down to her office n c what I can do.
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Originally posted by spinsugar:
never ask how you know the boss won't allow? just show lah, if don't allow then report to the proper authorities.
As per my original thread,
She already went to see a doc - diagnosed as food poisoning.
[b]Already got MC.
Her boss has denied her medical leave despite MC before. She is afraid to show him the MC now for fear of him scolding her / expressing unhappiness.
She says this is her 2nd MC this year, last was in early Jan (not incl 1 advance medical leave applied for pregnancy appointment)[/b] -
Mentioned in my previous post :Originally posted by phber:never ask how you know the boss won't allow? just show lah, if don't allow then report to the proper authorities.Originally posted by spinsugar:
Her boss insisted she had to wait for *his* boss to return before she could be let off (even with the MC).
Yeah her boss's only reason (if it is even considered one) is that she should wait for the big boss to come into the office at 4pm. As in, the ang moh manager's manager.
There wasn't much I could do when I went down, but I managed to set my fren up for an interview at another friend's company. See how lah.. Tmr I'll ask her if she's taking action, today let her rest. -
really, report to MOM
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post it on the web. make it known to everyone and create bad publicity for the co. of cos, she should not do the posting. someone else got to do it. publicize the ang moh monkey name, face, address, contact. shame the fellow.
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unpaid mc leave lor.
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This is what happens when the Govt doesn't enforce strict labour laws.
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No bosses can stop you taking MCs...but nobody can stop your boss from sacking you on the grounds of 'poor performance' either. If an employee is always taking MC, other colleagues will complain even if the boss does not mind.
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if she is genuinely sick then her colleagues shouldnt be complaining.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:No bosses can stop you taking MCs...but nobody can stop your boss from sacking you on the grounds of 'poor performance' either. If an employee is always taking MC, other colleagues will complain even if the boss does not mind.
of course, thats ideally speaking. -
She should stay home. And find another job after she gives birth. Her husband will provide for herOriginally posted by spinsugar:Yeah but what're the chances of a 6-mth pregnant woman finding a new job with maternity benefits now? o.0 -
Ideal indeed. In fact, most Singaporeans will be complaining that they have to do more to cover for her..Originally posted by dragg:if she is genuinely sick then her colleagues shouldnt be complaining.
of course, thats ideally speaking. -
oH yes I remember that ...Originally posted by oxford mushroom:Ideal indeed. In fact, most Singaporeans will be complaining that they have to do more to cover for her..
When I was in Singapore ,if you have a nursing colleague who calls in sick - the other nurses who are there have to take her patients as an extra load. Once I has to look after 24 patients with only 2 assistant nurses before. I am not joking. And when I cannot finish my work - the nursing officer likes to highlight my poor time management. Poor performance huh?
More than 5 medical sick leave in 3 years mean no promotion unless your daddy is somebody - that was also a general unwritten rule.
I also remembered working with a fever of 40 degrees because the Nursing Officer won't let me go home - she said workload too much and I have to finish it. Now it is different in Singapore after SARs .
Thank god , Australia is different - nurses who call in sick get replaced by bank or agency nurses. -
i don't really see anything wrong with complaining about that.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:Ideal indeed. In fact, most Singaporeans will be complaining that they have to do more to cover for her..
it is really additional burden without benefits to them. normal sickness can be explained by one will get sick too, but pregnancy is a whole new ball game -
Ignore the boss and just go home... the boss is angry but deep down he knows that it is only right that she goes home.Originally posted by spinsugar:Friend of mine, who's 6 mths pregnant, is working at an MNC as HR admin. Ang moh boss. She started having bad stomach pains this morning & went to see a doc, who confirmed it is food poisoning. Doc gave her an MC & ordered her to go home to rest right away, but she is afraid her boss will show his unhappiness. She's afraid to lose her job.
She doesn't take MC often and does her job well (i've worked with her before), but her boss has apparently expressed alot of unhappiness abt her recent ML (medical leave) for those pregnancy checkups. He already refused to let her take MC a mth back when she was sick + pregnant.
This isn't a clear-cut discrimination case because there's no hard evidence.. Want to help but don't know how to. Argh. So much for the shiny govt statistics. Worse, she's stuck with this job at least till she gives birth.
Anyone came across these cases before / able to offer insight on how to handle these situations?
He can do that simply because the Unions in Singapore are on the management side and not on the workers side... P*P ensured that. -
If your friend can't even stand up for herself when this is clearly within her rights, then she need to change jobs. No point blaming her boss for being mean if she can't fend for herself.Originally posted by spinsugar:Friend of mine, who's 6 mths pregnant, is working at an MNC as HR admin. Ang moh boss. She started having bad stomach pains this morning & went to see a doc, who confirmed it is food poisoning. Doc gave her an MC & ordered her to go home to rest right away, but she is afraid her boss will show his unhappiness. She's afraid to lose her job.
She doesn't take MC often and does her job well (i've worked with her before), but her boss has apparently expressed alot of unhappiness abt her recent ML (medical leave) for those pregnancy checkups. He already refused to let her take MC a mth back when she was sick + pregnant.
This isn't a clear-cut discrimination case because there's no hard evidence.. Want to help but don't know how to. Argh. So much for the shiny govt statistics. Worse, she's stuck with this job at least till she gives birth.
Anyone came across these cases before / able to offer insight on how to handle these situations? -
Tender 24hrs?
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hisk, if you get married, pray to whatever gods you worship that your wife never gets pregnant and face a boss like you would beOriginally posted by hisoka:i don't really see anything wrong with complaining about that.
it is really additional burden without benefits to them. normal sickness can be explained by one will get sick too, but pregnancy is a whole new ball game -
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If she had signed an agreement with termination clauses similar to clause 15.1, good luck.
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Women's Charter would provide a better avenue and Employment Act also helps...Originally posted by spinsugar:Friend of mine, who's 6 mths pregnant, is working at an MNC as HR admin. Ang moh boss. She started having bad stomach pains this morning & went to see a doc, who confirmed it is food poisoning. Doc gave her an MC & ordered her to go home to rest right away, but she is afraid her boss will show his unhappiness. She's afraid to lose her job.
She doesn't take MC often and does her job well (i've worked with her before), but her boss has apparently expressed alot of unhappiness abt her recent ML (medical leave) for those pregnancy checkups. He already refused to let her take MC a mth back when she was sick + pregnant.
This isn't a clear-cut discrimination case because there's no hard evidence.. Want to help but don't know how to. Argh. So much for the shiny govt statistics. Worse, she's stuck with this job at least till she gives birth.
Anyone came across these cases before / able to offer insight on how to handle these situations?
Worse come to worst, ask the doctor to vouch and lodge an inquiry against the stupid FT... -
and in other 1st world countries, both husband and wife and allowed to take paid maternity leave of up to 24 months.Originally posted by polarsnake:She should stay home. And find another job after she gives birth. Her husband will provide for her -
Ya man, where got such thing one. Sick cannot take MC. Yaya report MOM
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Hpmh... guys know not the struggles of pregnancy
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MOM hotline 63171111
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orhOriginally posted by polarsnake:Hpmh... guys know not the struggles of pregnancy 
so you been pregnant b4 and know?
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report to MOM..
