Never mess around with a tyrannt
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MM Lee, opposition MP Low Thia Khiang debate increase in salaries
Opposition MP Low Thia Khiang questioned the need for such high salaries for ministers and top civil servants to prevent corruption.
He said Singapore ranked below Finland, Denmark and Switzerland, in a UN report on how corrupt a country is, but these countries pay their top civil servants less than Singapore.
This had Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew on his feet and challenging his statements.
"Does he realise that Singapore's GDP is only one-third of its external trade? Our external trade is 3 1/2 times that of our GDP, higher than Hong Kong. And if this economy ever falters, that's the end of Singapore and its First World status. Denmark, Switzerland and Finland are part of Europe. You can fail and you're still caught in the European situation. If you fail here, you go back to a Southeast Asian situation. Just look around you," said MM Lee.
"So is the Minister Mentor saying that without paying such a high salary, we are bound to fail? And even if we pay top earners' salary, can the present government bring Singapore up to superpower (status), as what he has mentioned for those in Denmark?" challenged Mr Low, MP for Hougang.
"I am putting a simple question and asking for his clarification. He has compared Singapore as if it were Denmark, Finland or Switzerland. Their systems and governments never produced the kind of transformation that we have, and their system and government have a broader base and can afford a mediocre government," said the Minister Mentor. -
Ministers must be paid a lot to prevent corruption.
In the same way, my teachers must give me a lot of marks for my exams so that I wouldn't cheat
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like i was saying.. does it mean we owe them for the rest of eternity?
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"I am putting a simple question and asking for his clarification. He has compared Singapore as if it were Denmark, Finland or Switzerland. Their systems and governments never produced the kind of transformation that we have, and their system and government have a broader base and can afford a mediocre government," said the Minister Mentor.
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pui!
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so r the MPs there only for the sake of the moolahs?
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Originally posted by allentyb:
The criminal is dead right there - Denmark, Finland and Switzerland have never produced the kind of transformation we have, indeed. Since when did Denmark, Finland or Switzerland have governments needing to resort to deploying methods like legal extortion and criminal intimidation to transform those countries, whose population is not even twice that of Singapore's, into economic powerhouses yielding GDP per capita that's at least twice that of Singapore's?
"I am putting a simple question and asking for his clarification. He has compared Singapore as if it were Denmark, Finland or Switzerland. [b]Their systems and governments never produced the kind of transformation that we have, and their system and government have a broader base and can afford a mediocre government," said the Minister Mentor.[/b] -
That twit forgot Ireland too. They did a transformation similar to ours and has one of the booming economies of Europe.Originally posted by walesa:The criminal is dead right there - Denmark, Finland and Switzerland have never produced the kind of transformation we have, indeed. Since when did Denmark, Finland or Switzerland have governments needing to resort to deploying methods like legal extortion and criminal intimidation to transform those countries, whose population is not even twice that of Singapore's, into economic powerhouses yielding GDP per capita that's at least twice that of Singapore's?
And hey, Germany rebuilt their economy from PIECES. How much more radical a transformation does this prick want? -
The MM has obviously taken complete leave of his senses. It is time for him to move on.
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ROFL. Good way of putting it.Originally posted by mahawarrior:Ministers must be paid a lot to prevent corruption.
In the same way, my teachers must give me a lot of marks for my exams so that I wouldn't cheat -
Yes, the old man is preparing to take over Prata Man.
Open a Harry's Bar at Istana.
Enjoy the 3.5 million blood sg dollars.
And become the face on sg dollars.
That is achieving immortality.
Only Prata Man's face can be on the bill.
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I am wondering if the senile criminal is actually aware Luxembourg and Iceland (having a combined population of 765, 000) both have higher GDP per capita than Singapore's when he was sleeptalking. In fact, Luxembourg, with a population of 465, 000 and a land area of 999 square metres) has the highest GDP per capita in the world totalling USD70, 000 (approximately 3 times Singapore's)...Originally posted by Fingolfin_Noldor:That twit forgot Ireland too. They did a transformation similar to ours and has one of the booming economies of Europe.
And hey, Germany rebuilt their economy from PIECES. How much more radical a transformation does this prick want?
Now that you speak about Germany - why aren't comparisons drawn in parliament about how Singapore's economy was transformed thanks largely to it being modelled on the German one during the Third Reich? For the record, Hitler and gang (who are far more capable, albeit more cruel and inhumane, than the ambitious clone whose numerous policies were modelled on that of the Nazis) transformed a debt-ridden nation into one with the second highest industrial output at the outbreak of WWII - all that in a timespan of 6 years. Talk about a sense of "proportion"... -
Talk about an overinflated sense of self. No matter, when no one cares about what he talks about, then they won't fear him. He once said he rather be feared than loved, so stop fearing him and he might be shaken.
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wow! thats a good analogy! haha!Originally posted by mahawarrior:Ministers must be paid a lot to prevent corruption.
In the same way, my teachers must give me a lot of marks for my exams so that I wouldn't cheat -
good! later i am going the second sentence to my engineering and society lecturer, he is a hardcore MIW supporter, i remembered he kept on using the first sentence sometime.Originally posted by mahawarrior:Ministers must be paid a lot to prevent corruption.
In the same way, my teachers must give me a lot of marks for my exams so that I wouldn't cheat -
Time we all migrated to somewhere else
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Using fear to rule people is third grade and inferior way. This fear has turned in hatred. Imagine what will happen when people hate thier government?Originally posted by LazerLordz:Talk about an overinflated sense of self. No matter, when no one cares about what he talks about, then they won't fear him. He once said he rather be feared than loved, so stop fearing him and he might be shaken. -
PAP 1st Law
Lesser salaries = more corruption
PAP 2nd Law
More salaries = lesser corruption
where people, society and party (remain in power) is constant and unchange.
So applying this law to US and Japan.... we can derive that the US President and Japan PM are all corrupted...
Since we are so frail then why are we spending like no one business now?
Shouldn't we save more for future's more unexpected global development?
I thought increasing of GST is a way of growing our pie but before the pie is being "baked" we have already ate up the eggs and butter etc...
So what pie is there to say in 5 years times? -
Increase their salary on their own. Den let us know later. I suppose we're seeing such stunt in the govt as a norm alr.
'Democratic society. Base on justice n equality...." -
I know where my vote is going... for every $1 they give you, they take back $2 from each and everyone... and pay themselves $2.5mil...
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I guess other than our highly paid ministers, all of us should be corrupted, incompetent imbeciles.
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That pledge has long gone sour and curdled...Originally posted by Syndicate:Increase their salary on their own. Den let us know later. I suppose we're seeing such stunt in the govt as a norm alr.
'Democratic society. Base on justice n equality...." -
Yes I am going to take bribes from now onwards....
And I strongly advise all government sector workers to do that too... that's the hidden message by the government. They are urging us to think of alternative ways to increase our own salary la...
So yes! Let's all be corrupted! -
hehe..soon CPIB is coming after people like you..Originally posted by bigmouthjoe:Yes I am going to take bribes from now onwards....
And I strongly advise all government sector workers to do that too... that's the hidden message by the government. They are urging us to think of alternative ways to increase our own salary la...
So yes! Let's all be corrupted! -
Oh... don't worry... if they don't get their pay rise, they will start asking themselves why the government get payrise they don't.Originally posted by Urroh:hehe..soon CPIB is coming after people like you..