PM to donate his increment to charities for the next 5 years
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and this fella will be sack..
SINGAPORE : The motivation to serve was a key theme in speeches by MPs on the third day of debate on civil service and ministerial pay revisions.
MP for Hong Kah GRC Zaqy Mohamed said the need to raise the civil service and ministerial salaries raised questions on Singapore society.
His concern was over the kind of values that were inculcated among the people if Singapore cannot find 25 good men and women to serve as Ministers and Permanent Secretaries out of a population of 4.5 million.
"By making it too comfortable for our leaders - political and civil service officers - will we erode our work ethics, heart for servitude and compassion for our people? Much the same way, we fear that increasing financial assistance for the poor will erode the work ethics of the working population. How many lives and livelihoods are at stake if our policy-makers become too comfortable and disconnected from the realities of ordinary Singaporeans," asked the Hong Kah GRC MP.
The first-time MP who entered politics when he contested the 2006 General Election calls himself a post-65 idealist.
He said he would like to see leaders coming forward with a heart to serve honestly and compassionately, "put aside their personal interests for the interests for Singapore, and not just chase their GDP and performance bonuses." -
Supporting the charities is just to use for income tax deduction... People with salaries that come from E$%^&*()(*&%$^&*( sources would always do something that make them feel good about themselves...
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You always see her hanging out with old people one, after all, they're the ones supplying the votes to keep her where she is.Originally posted by mhcampboy:one more fella who wanna donate... -
out of curiusity, amount donated to charity not taxable right?? hehe
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Originally posted by mhcampboy:
Irene is damned right !
S'pore governed by extraordinary men willing to make sacrifices: MP
SINGAPORE: Singapore is governed by extraordinary men willing to make personal sacrifices, said MP for Tampines GRC Irene Ng in Parliament.
The example set by the Prime Minister was also brought up.
In 1992, Mr Lee Hsien Loong, as then-Deputy Prime Minister, had held a media conference just after undergoing chemotherapy for lymphoma.
[b]"I don't think he allowed the media to interview him for his own sake or because he liked the publicity. For sure it was not. It was for public interest. It was to assure the public that life and business in Singapore was going on as usual. I think if you talk to any cancer patient going through chemotherapy, I think their instinct is, 'Please let me recover quietly, let me focus on my health'. But he (Lee Hsien Loong) was thinking of Singapore even in his time of need," said Ms Ng. - CNA/ir
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It was to assure the public that with or without him, life and business went on as usual !
Sometimes, it's better to remain silent and be thought as a fool then to speak out and remove that doubt. -
Is Temasek Holdings a charity?
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After such high pay hike, I do not foresee any more payrise for 5 years also.
When was the last one huh??
Or, by saying such, does he mean there will be more payrise soon??
One thing I want to add:
By placing importance on high pay, such mentality will only propagate down the society to think for themselves only.
On the other hand, if they can set example by accepting lower pay,
im sure they can inspire even more people work hard for the country. -
i wonder why MM and SM nv did the same thing as what LHL did
wan their pocket to remain ''fat fat''?
and which charity he will donate too? -
Economy go up pay rise is justified
if the economy go down, will they cut their pay by the percentage and compare to top 1000 again? maintain the same percentage that the formula they claim ? -
They can link singapore's GDP for their increase. I'll just be as satisfied if the same GDP could be used on our CPF ordinary accounts.
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Where r all the dogs???
Very quiet oh!!!! -
I was on a plane when I overhead two Chinese nationals talking to each other:
Chinese A - "Guess what the Singapore prime minister is paid every year?"
Chinese B - "What?"
Chinese A - "CNY 16 million per year."
Chinese B - "What!"
Chinese B - "How much did Deng Xiao Ping last made?"
Talk about value for money. That was when I decided that I had enough. I had to write something to get it off my chest, so here it goes Â…
I just cannot comprehend why Singapore needs to pay its top civil servants so much money? I understand the need to benchmark against the private sector but I disagree with the idea of benchmarking against the top earners. Why? Because most people would agree that top executive salaries are often inflated and unjustified. In addition, private sector compensation is often seen as an entire package (housing benefits, transportation benefits, security benefits). Is this taken into consideration (i.e., perhaps the ministerÂ’s pay should be seen as an entire package as well) or are we comparing apples and oranges?
But the million dollar question is “will top salary guarantee top talent?” I doubt so. Just look at the US – CEOs are often paid a lot of money that they don’t deserve. On the other hand, look at Warren Buffet – this guy doesn’t pay his CEOs a dime more than what they deserve and yet the executives running his businesses are among the best in Corporate America. There are a lot more intangibles to job satisfaction that just pay. It seems that the current system of benchmarking civil servant’s salaries is shallow at best.
PM Lee said that he doesnÂ’t want salary to be the reason why people donÂ’t want to join the civil service or leave the civil service. Does this mean that increasing the salaries of civil servants will solve all these issues? First of all, if someone doesnÂ’t want to join the civil service because the pay is too low, chances are that he or she shouldnÂ’t. He or she should spend a decade or so in the private sector and accumulate sufficient wealth to be financially independent before joining the civil service. In this way, we can derive some comfort that he or she really wants to serve the country; a few years of private sector experience is probably a good addition to the government anyway.
It was reported in the New Paper that the overall resignation rate for graduate officers was 10.6% 2006, up from 7.4% in 2005. What the figures don’t tell you is how many of these people resign because they saw a glass ceiling? I have came across many young civil servants that became disillusioned with the “Administrative Service” (i.e., you are either in it or you suck) system. It seems that unless you are in the “Administrative Service”, you are somewhat disadvantaged regardless of your performance - all things being equal, a scholar in “Administrative Service” is seem to be promoted faster. You don’t get that in the private sector. For example, if you join a Wall Street firm right out of college, everyone will be placed in the same class pool – regardless of whether you get a 4.0 GPA from Harvard or 3.2 GPA from Tufts – everyone competes on qualities that matter to the job at hand. Again, intangibles.
More important that the current pay raise fiasco is the big picture of things in Singapore, which really makes me uncomfortable. Are Singaporeans truly happy with the current manner things are developing? It seems that the current policy of Singapore is one of pro-immigrants, and one of continuous overall growth. Are true blue Singaporeans reaping the benefits of such growth? Why canÂ’t the government be focused on upping the wealth of its existing citizens (what I call bottom-line growth) rather than trying to growth the overall wealth (what I call top-line growth) by importing new people? Is it because if they donÂ’t grow the overall wealth, they cannot justify a 33% salary increase?
I believe LKY said that our real estate would be worth a fraction of what it is worth today if not for a competent government. That I agree. However, going forward, it seems that if we go down the current trajectory that the government has put in place, that piece of real estate is probably going to be worth maybe two times or even three times as much in ten yearsÂ’ time. But you know what? You donÂ’t own it anymore, and neither will your children. -
is he doing a good job? or just ok?Originally posted by BillyBong:At the end of the day, i personally do not think PM Lee is doing a bad job. Only time will tell whether this infurating move by our govt will cause casualty rates for the MIW at the next elections.
Then again, some Singaporeans are sheep with the shortest of memories.
IF he is just ok, how did he get to the position of PM in the first place?
If he is good, then name me an achievement of the current PAP.
AT the end of the day, doing an ok job doesn't justify the astronomical pay he is getting.
5 years donation so what? The fact is, its just like the petrol stations, up prices, then offer you a discount, but the prices have already been upped.
I also question where he is donating to, NKF? -
Is he going to donate to Durai's next charity fund? Like his jail fund?
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Now with ethics and sense of duty skewed towards monetary motivation factor, they can as well throw the entire Gracious Campagne into the garbage bin...
Society will henceforth, be as SELF-SERVING as they are....
Here you have it, The Mould that shaped society to what it is today... -
will people stop bloody equating the POLITICIANS like the ministers with CIVIL SERVANTS?
they are NOT the same!
civil servants are working hacks... the politicians are.. politicians... -
I think it's a lame idea for PM Lee to even suggest that he hold his salary for the next 5 years and donate any increase to "a worthy cause" as it is only him. What's the point? What about the rest of the ministers?
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I wonder if any of you ever thought of this logic.
During budget speech, nothing was ever said of pay increment of ministers.
And in the budget speech, the pay for ministers was already spelt out.
And after the budget speech, minister pay raise was announced but there are no amendments to the budget.
How does this work? -
Top pay will not cut out corruption. In fact, the people clamouring for pay raise are the very same people who are most susceptible to corruption because they are more motivated by money and feel they don't get paid well enough........
Mebbe it's time to outsource Singapore's ministers liao..............
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The issue now is,
HOW Many percent of his increment is he going to Donate?
I'm going to declare that I'm charitable by donating 10% of my 3000% increment in pay. -
Wouldn't that be amusingOriginally posted by soul_rage:I also question where he is donating to, NKF? -
That's a fair point...before we confuse ministers and senior staff of the minister's office with the average CIVIL SERVANT, who must be disappointed that the masses are now labelling them as sycophants.Originally posted by the Bear:will people stop bloody equating the POLITICIANS like the ministers with CIVIL SERVANTS?
they are NOT the same!
civil servants are working hacks... the politicians are.. politicians... -
He donate but he gets more 5 yrs. later, don't forget the pay increase is long term- till he becomes SM & MM.
Also his bonus is too much- 5 to 11 mths.. for ministers! -
Then please tell all the people asking for donations to talk to LHL.
The common people are bled dry -
Her husband is a rich Indonesian doctor, drives a Ferrari. She don't need the money. Anyway good of her to donate- giving to charity, God will bless her & her family.Originally posted by ditzy:You always see her hanging out with old people one, after all, they're the ones supplying the votes to keep her where she is.