Malaysia's Big Weapons Armament Purchase
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Care to elaborate on when I did that?Originally posted by Innocent_Malaysian:lonesniper,
when viper52 says things w/o evidence,you dont tease him...........
BTW Malaysia get Saab Erieye? As usual, with all arms purchases Malaysian, I'll believe it when I see it... -
if i were u ..i leave the parent out of this flaming...how abt i insult ur parent n see how u feel???Originally posted by Innocent_Malaysian:i feel sorry for grandparents for having such sons/daughters.....
tsk tsk tsk...is tat wat Msia education teach u??
pathetic..
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Innocent_malaysia.That is not very nice of you ok?
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i did not insult his parents/grandparents,i just said i felt sorry for them.......
about viper52,
you said you wrote articles for defence journals w/o backing it up but lonesniper didnt say anything..(btw viper52,i believe what you said is true) -
u did not insult his parent??Originally posted by Innocent_Malaysian:i did not insult his parents/grandparents,i just said i felt sorry for them.......
about viper52,
you said you wrote articles for defence journals w/o backing it up but lonesniper didnt say anything..(btw viper52,i believe what you said is true)
hey asshole u pissing me off...look back at ur post n think wat have u just said...u r insulting pple parent n u didnt noe??
is tat wat they teach back in Msia??
tis is disgusting wat a ill manner child
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Parents family etc are very sensitive topics you should have left them out. And lets not have a flame war here ok?Temperature is hot here.
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This is a politcal discussion there is no space for ppl who insults family member.Appreciate pls give a second thought before u click post!!
.Anyway BAck to politics........
......y i my schoolmate from malaysia told me the same stuff Malaysia is hell of a racist & corrupted country.They really dislike living in malaysia especially the chinese who is discrimated..in university the malay gets the 1st priority althought the chinese perform better than the malay in Malaysian version of "O"levels.i recall one incident one malaysia score many distinction but she was rejected from entering one of malaysia most best U but she was offered an entry in singapore NUS which is one of the veri best in asia slightly below tokyo university and beijing university.Her parent reject silly right.If that particular U accept her and groom her,she might be a strong pillar of malaysia in future.When i heard saw the news i really realise that discrimination in malaysia is horrible i m grate to born and educated in singapore's meritocracy system.u just cant expect better than this.
No wonder althru MY gain independent early and yet they progress slower than us,we are already a newly industalised nation and one of the 4 asia tigers while they are still crawling slowly....ahya pathetic now then they decided to wake up
I would say Malaysian government has no foresight.LKY long predicted china is awakening to be a powerful dragon and singaporean official is making numerous connection with chinese official in business.etc.At this moment then,Dr M is still in his veri OWN BIG house drinking a nice hot coffee.PPl say y Dr M hair seems to be so much darker than LKY was because LKY is a person who think more than M... -
"i did not insult his parents/grandparents,i just said i felt sorry for them......."
...thereby hinting that they are poor parents...if thats not an insult I don't know what is. Let me make one thing clear, attacks on ones race, nationality, religion or ancestry is not appreciated here. You want to make personal attacks, by all means. But attacking any of the above, well just shows what kind of character you are
"about viper52, you said you wrote articles for defence journals w/o backing it up but lonesniper didnt say anything..(btw viper52,i believe what you said is true)"
I'll leave Lonesniper to answer this. But heres some food for thought. If what you have said before stands up to scrutiny and are backed up by proper facts, there will not be so many questions over you integrity
Think about that for a moment -
ok ok
everything was my fault
i apologise
is my apology accepted???? -
if u think u are in the wrong..well think for urself..i hav nothing to say
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hey cool it everyone
Innocent_malaysian is just trying to stand up for his own country based on public domain information and government announcements just like we are (except that his government announcement not very accurate, but thats a different matter,NOT his fault)
okay? so cool down everyone and innocent_malaysian, not everything is your fault, and at least you stick around to hit back a bit, not like HARIMAU, run until dunno where liao -
he is only telling the truth wat......Originally posted by Innocent_Malaysian:i will forgive you for what you said......although it hurt a lot when reading your post.......i feel sorry for your mother....for having such a son.....
MALAYSIA IS A F**King racist nation... everybody also knows that they got skin preferential treatment... ?? -
OK that is the end of arguement between this Grandparent mother father stuff.....IT is officially close.
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ok which weapon is better Amraam,Mica,R 77 amraamski or meteor
any personal selection????
Base on the specification i prefer Meteor since it has a range 100 KM -
metoer is still on paper.....if say current...i would say mica is better
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Mica will be rated one of the best missiles in the world, except it has yet fire in anger. Given its IR or Active radar variants, the Mica family provides the most flexible BVR engagement possible. I can't compare it with the Russian missiles becos I am not as well verse in their missiles as the Western counterpart.Originally posted by duotiga83:metoer is still on paper.....if say current...i would say mica is better -
from Air International article on F-15 vs Su-27 variants April 2000 there got the range of western AAM n Russian AAMs comparison:
AA-11 Archer(30km)
AA-12 Adder-A(50km)
AA-10 Alamo-A(50km)
AA-10 Alamo-C(75km)
AA-10 Alamo-E(110km)
AIM-9M sidewinder (18 km)
AIM-120A AMRAAm(72km)
AIM-7p Sparrow(100km)
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AFM sept 2000
AIM-120C range N/A
MEteor BVRAAM 160 miles
MIca 28 miles -
Aim 7 is 100 km??? u sure or not? if that is true....sell away our Aim 120...it is a waste of money...we can bvetter use the money for reproduction
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First of all Sparrow is definitely NOT a 100Km weapon. At the most optimal launch parameter, ie. high attitude > 30,000ft launch by a high speed (probably a Mach 1 or higher) aircraft, the most it has ever achieved is 75 km - that is when the missile literally fall out of the sky from no more energy. At best, it can do 50 Km on normal flight parameter, even shorter if the target are constantly changing course.Originally posted by CenturionMBT:Aim 7 is 100 km??? u sure or not? if that is true....sell away our Aim 120...it is a waste of money...we can bvetter use the money for reproduction
Secondly, why use Amraam instead of Sparrow... many reasons, they are:
1. Amraam is a lot smaller and lighter.
2. Amraam has an active radar, at approx. 15 km to the target (maybe even slightly further, the onboard radar kicks in). The mid course guidance is via data link and unlike Semi-active radar missiles like the AIM-7s, the fighter does not need to "paint" the enemy and thus opening itself to counter fire.
3. The -C version of Amraam has a much higher range than the previous A and B version, and depending on which C version, eg. C5, which has the longest range due to miniturising of radar and electronics component, and enlarging of the fuel and rocket.
Other thing I want to point out is that Mica has been tested at > 60km by the Taiwanese (actually hit a drone at that range not drop out of the sky), thus the 28 miles figure is incorrect. -
The AIM-7P does more than 30NM and the AIM-9M will only do 10m if launched from low altitude, so missile range is most of the time approx. only, i think it should be measured by a range of numbers rather than one fixed number as its very misleading...
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though a bit out dated..but is still a news...
Flight International 19-25 March 2002 pg 18
Fighter procurement Andrew Doyle/Singapore
Malaysia plans gripen Evaluation
Swedish fighter set to join battle with Boeing Super Hornet and Sukhoi Su-30MKM for advanced fighter prize
Malaysia is planning to evaulate the Saab/Bae Systems Gripen as a candidate for its fighter requirement. The country is meanwhile studying options for the acquisition of an airborne early warning and control(AEW&C) capability.
Malaysia's fighter competition had been shaping up as a two-way battle between the twin engined Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet and Sukhoi Su-30MKM. But Malaysian industry rsources say the single -engined Gripen will also be evaluated. Malaysian prime minister Mahathir Mohamad visited BAE System's Warton factory during his five-day trip to the UK in late February, say the sources. The UK manufacturer declines to comment.
The Gripen is gaining momentum n the export market following successes in the Czech Republic, Hungary and South africa.
Mahathir last week made an official visit to Russia, where he was expected to discuss potential industrialco-operation with Su-30MKM manufacturer Komosomolsk-naAmur Aircraft Production.
Boeing is also stepping up its campaign to secure Malaysia as the lauch export customer for the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, although Kuwait has emerged as potentially the first buyer.
The Malaysian air force is expected to acquire an initial 16 aircraft and take options o eight, but industry sources suggest a desicion is unlikely to be taken soon due to budget constraint.
The air force operates eight two-seat F/A-18Ds Hornes and could return these to the US Navy in part-exchange for Super Hornets. It also has RSK MiG-29s.
Air Force commander Suleiman Mahmud meanwhile has been reported by local media as saying AEW&C aircraft will be bought as part of the fighter purchase.
According to the local reports,Mahmud has said:"The proposed purchase of [AEW&C] aircraft is a necessity to enhance the capacity of the air force." He did not specify which options were under evaluation, or when they would be purchased. -
Huh!! are u sure buying fighter and Awacs,Heh!!tok rubbish onli......since went Malaysia became so rich,just bought expensive arm for navy , army that cost billions
Pls action speaks louder than words
For malaysia case,it is clear that thy cant afford anymore such procurement over such a short period of time.Pls.........
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news is still news.....i say it again...dun let ur nationalism blur ur thoughts.....
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Here r sum of the aim9p specifications. Happy readfing.
http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-7.html -
i thought M'sia always want twin engined aircraft?
Anyway, I haven't read about his until now. I'm surprised Malaysian media didn't make big news of this too...
And yes, though this is news, Malaysian government defence news is, how should I put it... ... not very reliable. I'll believe the news when Malaysia signs a contract or buys the planes.
Something interesting. 16 planes + 8 options = 24 planes
isn't Singapore also gonna purchase 24 planes thereabouts? (though not Gripen)