Us, we, everybody including P*P or Us and P*P?

• AndrewPKYap

  18 Apr 07, 10:23

  Do you feel in your mind like we are all in it together, working towards "national" goals for the benefit of everyone in an equitable and fair manner... or it has become, we are working for their good and "give give give" while they "take take take"?
  
  Nowadays I feel like I don't "belong" to this country in the sense that I am expected to make sacrifices not for the good of the nation but for the good of a dishonorable group of people... what about you?
  
  It is like this country "belongs" to them like a company "belongs" to the owners and a country club belongs to it's members...
  
  Like we are the "employees" of the company and "visitors" in the house and "guests" of the country cub members...
  
  How can we "take" back out own country from "them"?
• soul_rage

  18 Apr 07, 10:39

  Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:

  Do you feel in your mind like we are all in it together, working towards "national" goals for the benefit of everyone in an equitable and fair manner... or it has become, we are working for their good and "give give give" while they "take take take"?
  
  Nowadays I feel like I don't "belong" to this country in the sense that I am expected to make sacrifices not for the good of the nation but for the good of a dishonorable group of people... what about you?
  
  It is like this country "belongs" to them like a company "belongs" to the owners and a country club belongs to it's members...
  
  Like we are the "employees" of the company and "visitors" in the house and "guests" of the country cub members...
  
  How can we "take" back out own country from "them"?

  I don't have a sense of belonging. I don't know what is patriotism. To me, that word is an alien word. It means I have to give my life to protect LHL, which is really illogical to me.
  
  I dumped my previous company becoz my current company doubled my pay and recognized my ability. I don't know what is called loyalty. I only know that my current company pays me better and treats me better. I won't reject my current job just becoz I have 2 unfinished projects at my previous company (Note that my previous company is a singapore company, speaks volumnes of their pay and attitude to people). Similarly, I will dump Singapore anytime if I am pissed with the attitude of the govt and the people here.
  
  No apologies given by me, coz the govt taught me to recognize only money
• Rock^Star

  18 Apr 07, 10:54

  Can u stop starting so many topics. Continuos ranting gets tiring.
• AndrewPKYap

  18 Apr 07, 11:06

  Originally posted by soul_rage:

  I don't have a sense of belonging. I don't know what is patriotism. To me, that word is an alien word. It means I have to give my life to protect LHL, which is really illogical to me.
  
  I dumped my previous company becoz my current company doubled my pay and recognized my ability. I don't know what is called loyalty. I only know that my current company pays me better and treats me better. I won't reject my current job just becoz I have 2 unfinished projects at my previous company (Note that my previous company is a singapore company, speaks volumnes of their pay and attitude to people). Similarly, I will dump Singapore anytime if I am pissed with the attitude of the govt and the people here.
  
  No apologies given by me, coz the govt taught me to recognize only money

  so what exactly will make people have that sense of belonging and pride... so that die die, this is my country (or my company) and I will not leave...?
  
  I talked to so many people and they are like, "I want to... but cannot..."
  
  How to persuade Singaporeans to become, "I can, anytime, but no no way..."
• soul_rage

  18 Apr 07, 12:48

  Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:

  so what exactly will make people have that sense of belonging and pride... so that die die, this is my country (or my company) and I will not leave...?
  
  I talked to so many people and they are like, "I want to... but cannot..."
  
  How to persuade Singaporeans to become, "I can, anytime, but no no way..."

  I don't know *shrugs*, why are you asking me? I am not paid millions to think out a solution for that.
  
  In fact, those paid with millions can't even solve this basic problem, and they still deem themselves successful?
  
  Either way, the trick to this rubbish dump of a city, is to be
  (1) self-sufficient, don't even bother about the govt
  (2) go against their very policies, like how I go to a company that don't heed their stupid idea of low pay, high bonuses (when actually, the bonuses aren't high at all in singapore companies. More likely, its low pay, low bonuses)
  
  So I detach myself from their silly propaganda, and my life's much better now.
  
  In the Singapore company, they work you like a slave, telling you how hard the world out there is, that they are already very nice. When you leave, and you TRULY go out into the world, you realized that the world is much more beautiful and life's much better, that you realized they had cheated and lied for the few years you were in that place.
  
  Only thing is... I see so many more people suffering (listening to all these lies), and I cannot tolerate the govt for that.