poor people abound
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I saw a very sad scene on my way home. Saw this old man in his 60s who stuck his head into a dustbin. Moments later, i saw him stretch his hand into the bin and happily dug out used drink cans. Then he looked at the dustbin metal ring where smokers snub their cigarettes;and lighted up some used cigarette stumps to smoke the remaining nicotine in it.
this scene repeats itself everyday, be it at hawker centres or bus interchanges. It seems there are so many poor elder folks around.Mr. PM sir, i certainly hope your donated salary could help these old folks and liberate them from living such an inhumane life of digging into dustbins to sell used drinks for scrape metal. thank you sir. -
If $46m is 0.13 percent of the total government expenditure or 0.022 percent of GDP, why not use it to home and feed these homeless, destitute or starving old folks? IÂ’m sure they have no more ambitions or goals for their future.
Just food and shelter and medical care will make them contented.
Pls PAP, let these old folks live out their remaining lives with dignity. -
Do u know that 1kg of drink can cost 2 dollar plus?
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Originally posted by googoomuck:
Exactly...!
If $46m is 0.13 percent of the total government expenditure or 0.022 percent of GDP, why not use it to home and feed these homeless, destitute or starving old folks? IÂ’m sure they have no more ambitions or goals for their future.
Just food and shelter and medical care will make them contented.
Pls PAP, let these old folks live out their remaining lives with dignity.
This government has claimed that current budget does not allow them to implement a social program nor help the lower income unless there is an increase of the GST to a full 7%.
This increase will rake in an additional amount of $1.5 BILLION for the Government over two years, but will this entire amount benefit the 20,000 plus that have been identified to be in the lower income group ?
How much from the entire $1.5 BILLION will be spent for the 20,000 plus, and what amount will go into which Social Programmes that will benefit which social groups in the Singapore Society ?
It is so easy to trickly $46MILLION from this large GST collection of $1.5 BILLION without any Singaporeans being any wiser. -
hai... what do they need 3m for man... esp lky, sian, he's so friggin old. he should sit back and enjoy life instead of poking his nose in all these gov affairs. but no one doubts his contributions to s'pore in the past of cos...
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Feeding and Homing the Destitudes???
I think, Fat Chance of that!
THIS, is exactly what they are primarily AVOIDING at any of their costs!
If you say; "Ok, I have the financial resources, I WILL feed and home these destitudes.." They will likely pat you on the back, give you a firm good handshake and probably a plaque and you go do it...!
My friends, this is WELFARE they don't want to end up providing it! It bleeds them financially too much. If you can, they will be more than happy to let you!
Best part is; they won't feel ashamed that you do it and not them who has all our monies! -
their policy is 'singaporeans should help each other'. they conveniently forget that they are also singaporean.
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That dunno which minister still got the cheek to say each every poor citizen get 2k of resource from govt.
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The current costs of living are sure to climb further after GST increases. Essential government services supposed to be funded by taxes were nowadays all transferred to GLCs which become monopolies and set their own fees and charges.Originally posted by tigersushi:I saw a very sad scene on my way home. Saw this old man in his 60s who stuck his head into a dustbin. Moments later, i saw him stretch his hand into the bin and happily dug out used drink cans. Then he looked at the dustbin metal ring where smokers snub their cigarettes;and lighted up some used cigarette stumps to smoke the remaining nicotine in it.
this scene repeats itself everyday, be it at hawker centres or bus interchanges. It seems there are so many poor elder folks around.Mr. PM sir, i certainly hope your donated salary could help these old folks and liberate them from living such an inhumane life of digging into dustbins to sell used drinks for scrape metal. thank you sir.
The normal household expenses is hitting S$2,000.00 pm as admitted by Minister Vivian Balakrishnan in releasing the extremely paltry figures on assistance to the poor.
In Singapore taxes paid by the citizens become surpluses which the ministers can claim as their success in order to pay themselves higher salaries and bonuses as seen happening in NKF.
The higher costs of living in Singapore were not caused by inflation or higher world commodity prices but are contributed by essential government services being privatized into GLCs which bought over the lands and assets from the government departments providing the essential services resulting in citizens having to pay to these GLCs once again such asset costs.
Public transport companies, mediacorp, utility companies have to recover all the asset costs when these assets were previously paid by the citizens under taxations.
If government does not make profits from such corporatizations of essential services and continue to provide such services like before, there will be no loss to the government and there will be no need for GLCs to recover such asset costs and rentals.
The citizens do not have to pick empty cans and dig into dumps to get at waste cigarette butts for a smoke. -
Dear Robert Sir.,Originally posted by robertteh:The current costs of living are sure to climb further after GST increases. Essential government services supposed to be funded by taxes were nowadays all transferred to GLCs which become monopolies and set their own fees and charges.
The normal household expenses is hitting S$2,000.00 pm as admitted by Minister Vivian Balakrishnan in releasing the extremely paltry figures on assistance to the poor.
In Singapore taxes paid by the citizens become surpluses which the ministers can claim as their success in order to pay themselves higher salaries and bonuses as seen happening in NKF.
The higher costs of living in Singapore were not caused by inflation or higher world commodity prices but are contributed by essential government services being privatized into GLCs which bought over the lands and assets from the government departments providing the essential services resulting in citizens having to pay to these GLCs once again such asset costs.
Public transport companies, mediacorp, utility companies have to recover all the asset costs when these assets were previously paid by the citizens under taxations.
If government does not make profits from such corporatizations of essential services and continue to provide such services like before, there will be no loss to the government and there will be no need for GLCs to recover such asset costs and rentals.
The citizens do not have to pick empty cans and dig into dumps to get at waste cigarette butts for a smoke.
With all due respect, but you sure have a very long breath to pursue the matter of how our gov runs and manages this country like some huge commercial conglomerate.
I have long given up hope that they'd ever change their ways of leeching every one of us averagers and lowly incomers DRY!
We should just leave it up to time, and the eventual repercusions to bring about CHANGE.
How many GEs do you think they will last? -
@ShutterBug
We need a good team to lead sg.
But then, we're paying them tax payer's money which consist of contributions from the lower middle class. There is little wonder how the man in the street will read this policy. -
I would support welfare for such elderly to provide by the government.
On another note, i wonder if some of these elderly actually have children. -
we all know about the 'no to welfare' for everyone else.Originally posted by dragg:their policy is 'singaporeans should help each other'. they conveniently forget that they are also singaporean. -
Ever see in the streets in singapore, its a common sight that you will see old homeless man limping around the streets?
Note that he/she may be alone, pennyless, homeless, jobless, dirty, depressed BUT HE/SHE HAS A SOURCE OF INCOME!
The income comes from collecting drink cans and cardboard paper and selling to recycling centers. To many, thats their only source of income, since the govt
refuse to help them.
But with our govt being so money minded, decided to go into the lucurative recycling business, they set up campaigns to the young children and ordinary sinkaporeans, by placing colour recycling bins and having a smiley green frog as an icon. sinkaporeans, on the context of thinking recycling is good, would just throw their unwanted stuff into the bins
Please stop giving or throwing away your unwanted thrash, give it to the can collecting uncle, although they just earn 1cent per can, its better than throw to those bloody NEA recycling bins that sell these recycled material for a higher price.
I would rather give my newpaper or used cans to a beggar or karang guni, at least he could sell it for 1cent rather than give the govt that would continue to expliot us in the pretext of "recycling".
With our greedy govt even setting up newstands like BUZZ to compete with traditional newspaper stands and setting NTUC fairprice to compete with HDB grocery stores, it will not be long if our govt starts restricting beggar collectors and soon issueing license, fines and jailterms to monopolize the recycling trade.
My plea is, please recycle ur old stuff to a beggar/collecter rather than throw it into those coloured recycling bins for free. At least u are helping them.
In short,
1. u give to a beggar/collector = so he/she would in turn sell to a recycling center. at least theres some source of income for beggars/collectors.
2. u drop into a recycling bin = the govt got it for free, recycle and resell for profit. beggars/collectors get nothing.
3. u throw to rubbish bin = wastage.
I think NEA is soon gonna outlaw these recycling practices soon, and make them the one and only player. Lets "save" the world. -
Thanks for your pleasantry and greetings but I am no sirs or aristocrat. I am you and them an ordinary citizen who does not want to see our country being run by hypocrisy.Originally posted by ShutterBug:Dear Robert Sir.,
With all due respect, but you sure have a very long breath to pursue the matter of how our gov runs and manages this country like some huge commercial conglomerate.
I have long given up hope that they'd ever change their ways of leeching every one of us averagers and lowly incomers DRY!
We should just leave it up to time, and the eventual repercusions to bring about CHANGE.
How many GEs do you think they will last?
So I give my views and even though I know that they will not listen, I still give my views. Hopefully, one day more and more people will come to know the facts and all the wrong doings and that will serve as the greatest logic or pressure to compel a change.
NKF is a good example. When facts are clear and enough people come to know what they are doing are wrong, they would act. -
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Help them...
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In olden days when Singaporeans were not that well-educated, people just focused on their bread and butter issues and didn't really bother about what the government did.
In this day and age, almost all Singaporeans are educated and are capable of thinking out of the box.
Except for the old, the aged and the borderline educated citizens, most will analyze and debate on political issues.
Hence, the ' I decide, you follow' style of government is no longer applicable. It is only right that people join hands with the government in dealing with national issues. Call it a vote of confidence, whatever.....
Yes, there are poor people in Singapore. Families surviving on just one meal a day. These poverty striken citizens are hidden away in some housing estates. They are not allowed to beg so we hardly see them.
Check out all the old folks' homes, RCs and ask residents in Bukit Ho Swee and Marsiling which blocks of flats are the poor housed in.
In almost all countries, industrialized or not, the poor are obvious in the streets. Here in Singapore, they are 'hidden' away.... so sad... -
ComCare EnableOriginally posted by soulwinner:Help them...
Public Assistance Scheme (PA)
This scheme assists Singapore Citizens who need long-term financial assistance. These residents are usually unable to work due to age, illness, or disability and have no family members who can provide support.
(i) ComCare Meals-at-Home for Homebound Needy Elderly
(ii) ComCare Therapy @ Home
(iii) ComCare Silver Connect
ComCare Enterprise Fund
- A programme under ComCare SelfReliance
1 Social enterprises focus on social causes. They use business to drive social change. To help the needy achieve self-reliance, MCYS will re-position its Social Enterprise Fund (SEF) into a ComCare Enterprise Fund (CEF), which will provide seed funding to start sustainable business enterprises which are focused on helping needy Singaporeans. Such help could either take the form of providing employment to needy Singaporeans, or using the profits generated to run programmes for needy Singaporeans.
2 The funding is set aside for viable business projects. An organization that wishes to apply for CEF funding, must show that the core business of the entity is viable and it is not just a social programme which it intends to run. Profits generated from business are to be channelled back to the social enterprise's social objective.
3 SEF started this financial year with a budget of $2 million. ComCare has added another $1 million, bringing the CEF budget for this year to $3 million.
4 Applications to the CEF can be made, from 1 August 2005, at the Ministry of Community Development, Youth and Sports. For further enquiries on the CEF, -
Are this organizations reaching out ot these old folks?Originally posted by zaxis:ComCare Enable
Public Assistance Scheme (PA)
This scheme assists Singapore Citizens who need long-term financial assistance. These residents are usually unable to work due to age, illness, or disability and have no family members who can provide support.
(i) ComCare Meals-at-Home for Homebound Needy Elderly
(ii) ComCare Therapy @ Home
(iii) ComCare Silver Connect
ComCare Enterprise Fund
- A programme under ComCare SelfReliance
1 Social enterprises focus on social causes. They use business to drive social change. To help the needy achieve self-reliance, MCYS will re-position its Social Enterprise Fund (SEF) into a ComCare Enterprise Fund (CEF), which will provide seed funding to start sustainable business enterprises which are focused on helping needy Singaporeans. Such help could either take the form of providing employment to needy Singaporeans, or using the profits generated to run programmes for needy Singaporeans.
2 The funding is set aside for viable business projects. An organization that wishes to apply for CEF funding, must show that the core business of the entity is viable and it is not just a social programme which it intends to run. Profits generated from business are to be channelled back to the social enterprise's social objective.
3 SEF started this financial year with a budget of $2 million. ComCare has added another $1 million, bringing the CEF budget for this year to $3 million.
4 Applications to the CEF can be made, from 1 August 2005, at the Ministry of Community Development, Youth and Sports. For further enquiries on the CEF,
The old folks are humans too. They still have a little bit of pride. Want them to approach the organizations? They are probably illiterate and don't know that such assistance is available. -
maybe to rub salt to wound, the 'Charity Org' may require them the fill in forms, ask tough questions, etc, etc..
Hey this money is donated by our ministers to help the poor, so must really make sure the applicants are really POOR -
door are always openOriginally posted by googoomuck:Are this organizations reaching out ot these old folks?
The old folks are humans too. They still have a little bit of pride. Want them to approach the organizations? They are probably illiterate and don't know that such assistance is available.
Monday till Friday, further more by appointment
need not wait till donkey year.
even old folk needy, has children, but children also has their younger to take care, children also has family too,
as long as declare as poor as possible.
once entered into Public Assistance scheme, will automatics receive till surrender I/C.
which is more worth to do, go through a few session, @ community development council.
follow up another few session @ Meet People Session. get MP to push for application approval.
suffer least than 10 trips, but can enjoy till surrender I/C.
want money (now S$260 / month, July S$290 / month) free medical benefit card, free doctor, additional Ang pow from various VWO, public assistance beneficiary's always get to Q in front of those not PA case.
Free dry ration every week, free daily meal (can option: send to beneficiary door step or take voucher exchange @ hawker centre or eat S$0.50 lunch @ Senior Activity Centre (SAC) -
old senior needy need not write any, they simply thumb print their right thumb, will do.Originally posted by justcooler:maybe to rub salt to wound, the 'Charity Org' may require them the fill in forms, ask tough questions, etc, etc..
Hey this money is donated by our ministers to help the poor, so must really make sure the applicants are really POOR -
Like it or not this is the way singapore is going to be. You are not the first few to state the worth of the messages you had painted above. and I bet there are eyes looking at them too. To them, we are just childish and don't understand and see what they are seeing(Though i tend to believe them in this sense) but continue to complain and expect the world to do something for them is redundant, might as well we do something for them.
Food for thought before we point...
When you see them, did you offer your $2? (Perhaps they may not like it too)
When you see people begging, response from majority are?
Have you ever voleentered for community service? Or you thought that by doing so the gov will not be comtributing. Come on you are staying on the land they build.
Lesser complain lesser pain...
**When you have a bag of rubbish, you dun carry it to sleep? Throw it away... -
I blame the government for their lack of proper welfare for the elderly. But the amount of homelessness in Singapore compared to other countries is well...not very high. You don't see many homeless people in Singapore.