Lee Kuan Yew can also counted as talents?Hohoho
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I read today's Chinese newspaper,got an American writer say Lee Kuan Yew is a great talent,hohoho.In the past,yes,Lee Kuan Yew is a great talent.But now,he is merely a piece of sh!t.Old,stubborn,dont want to quit his minister's post n keep talking rubbish n offended neignbouring country.Now,he is simply a piece of sh!t!!!!
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No!! U r RUBBISH!! lol
The debate over the million-dollar paychecks of Singapore's cabinet ministers is "rubbish" because the city-state needs to attract extraordinary people to run it, founding leader Lee Kuan Yew said in remarks published Monday.
"The biggest mistake any Singaporean can make is to believe that Singapore is an ordinary country and can behave like an ordinary country like Malaysia, like Indonesia, like Thailand, the Philippines, Vietnam, Australia, New Zealand, Denmark," he was quoted by the Straits Times as saying over the weekend.
The blunt-talking former prime minister said the public furore over the decision to raise cabinet ministers' base salaries by more than 30 percent to 1.05 million US dollars per year was "completely unreal."
"I say, 'rubbish,'" he told 400 members of the ruling People's Action Party (PAP) on Saturday.
Singapore, with its lack of natural resources and small population, needs attractive packages to draw talented people into public service or the country's future prosperity would be at risk, Lee warned.
"The problem we now face is how to attract more talent, how to headhunt and to persuade the best to come into parliament," said Lee, 83, who remains an influential figure in the government with the title of "minister mentor."
"I see this place going for another 50 years, no problem. But you need top-grade government," Lee said.
The pay hikes for ministers and top civil servants, which take effect this month, have triggered a rare public outcry from normally reserved Singaporeans, who enjoy Southeast Asia's highest standards of living.
The pay increase boosted Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong's annual salary to 2.04 million dollars, five times more than the figure US President George W. Bush earns and more than eight times the salary of Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe.
The prime minister -- the son of the elder Lee, who now makes 2.01 million dollars -- said he will freeze his salary for five years and donate the pay increase to charity.
Ministers' salaries are calculated using a formula pegging them to the earnings of top business executives and professionals, including lawyers and bankers.
Officials have long maintained that high salaries are necessary to attract talented managers into government service and preserve Singapore's reputation as one of the most corruption-free countries in Asia. -
Then can you be describe as a talent by the American ?
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Sound like a computer hero to me.Originally posted by drawer:I read today's Chinese newspaper,got an American writer say Lee Kuan Yew is a great talent,hohoho.In the past,yes,Lee Kuan Yew is a great talent.But now,he is merely a piece of sh!t.Old,stubborn,dont want to quit his minister's post n keep talking rubbish n offended neignbouring country.Now,he is simply a piece of sh!t!!!! -
Well i think the chinese newspaper is, in MM's own words, RUBBISH.
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are you runnnig out of jokes?
without him, you think you have internet to surf?
you might be staying in a kampong area -
this reminds me of a colleague who curses at his own dad for selling away a condo which his dad bought for him due to business failure. In the first place, if not for his dad, would he get the chance to live in his own apartment?Originally posted by leo-kun:are you runnnig out of jokes?
without him, you think you have internet to surf?
you might be staying in a kampong area
Classic example of some spoiled brat who thinks that the whole world owes him a living and the forte is blaming on anything and everything except himself. -
Well..... people always feel braver hiding behind an alias. Is LKY a Talent NowOriginally posted by Gazelle:Sound like a computer hero to me.
is not an important question...... he is a Talent Then, and help built S'pore to what it is today is good enough for me....... Minister's pay rise aside of course....... -
Is the ppl who criticise me above secret police send by the PAP?
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Give the old man a chance lah!
When the Cabinet debated whether to allow the Crazy Horse topless revue into Singapore some years back, there was a chorus of nays from among ministers.
So lau lee said:Quote "I said, Let it go. So they said No, we must stop this, and stop that, I said, You either go with the world and be part of the world, or you will find that we become a quaint, a quixotic, esoteric appendage of the world."Unquote.
So he is the one who allowed Crazy Horse to operate in Singapore. Not the younger ministers. Not bad for an old man. He is also now allowing F1 racing to come in. He is getting young at heart.
Anyone knows whether he is taking dancing lessons? -
What he is saying is that he still runs the show lah.Originally posted by mancha:Give the old man a chance lah!
When the Cabinet debated whether to allow the Crazy Horse topless revue into Singapore some years back, there was a chorus of nays from among ministers.
So lau lee said:Quote "I said, Let it go. So they said No, we must stop this, and stop that, I said, You either go with the world and be part of the world, or you will find that we become a quaint, a quixotic, esoteric appendage of the world."Unquote.
So he is the one who allowed Crazy Horse to operate in Singapore. Not the younger ministers. Not bad for an old man. He is also now allowing F1 racing to come in. He is getting young at heart.
Anyone knows whether he is taking dancing lessons?
All the other ministers can object all they want, but ultimately he has the final say.
Which leads me to another point.
If everything is decided by MM, then what is the PM and his ministers for?
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Sheez! I didn't look at it that way.Originally posted by charlize:What he is saying is that he still runs the show lah.
All the other ministers can object all they want, but ultimately he has the final say.
Which leads me to another point.
If everything is decided by MM, then what is the PM and his ministers for?
That old goat! I thought he had a change of heart. That he had mellowed.
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no he didn't have a change of heart, he lost it altogether.Originally posted by mancha:Sheez! I didn't look at it that way.
That old goat! I thought he had a change of heart. That he had mellowed.
some taiwanese don't seem to view him in good light:
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/archives/2007/04/14/2003356611
Sat, Apr 14, 2007
Editorial: Lee Kwan Yew: a ratbag to the end
It seems the Australian government-academic establishment is running out of Asian autocrats to fete. Chancellor Allan Hawke and Vice Chancellor Ian Chubb of the Australian National University (ANU) are the latest to join the Australian movers and shakers who laud distasteful people -- in their case, former Singaporean prime minister Lee Kwan Yew, who now holds an ANU honorary doctorate.
That the ANU could impugn its reputation for excellence in Asian studies and human rights law to further the ambitions of its top two officers is surprising enough. That these men should ram through the award by shelving university processes of review and then praise Lee's "integrity," "commitment to advancing the causes of peace and prosperity" and "international statesmanship [sic]" is downright contemptible. But credit where credit's due: Lee would applaud their methods.
Hawke and Chubb, no doubt, will be unmoved to hear of Lee's most recent slur against a head of state -- hardly proper protocol, one might think, for the recipient of a gong for statesmanship. Nonetheless, on April 4, Lee trotted out an attack on President Chen Shui-bian (’Â�…�G), saying that he was duping Taiwanese into believing that independence from China is possible because war would result and the US would not intervene.
The problem with this salvo was that it wasn't just personal; it was a bouquet to China and a put-down directed at millions of Taiwanese people who believe in democracy and liberty. So a personal attack on Lee for his cardigan despotism and hubris is perfectly in order -- because so much of Singapore and its neuroses are linked to Lee's person.
Lee's record on human rights is poor. He, like other autocrats in the region, demeans his people by labeling liberties of press and academic freedom as Western conceits that are not conducive to "Asian" societies. This mentality -- culturalist bordering on racist -- set up one of the more enduring intellectual hoaxes of the 1990s, namely that there exist "Asian values" (as opposed to Western or Judeo-Christian values, presumably, though his argument was never coherent). And these values, funnily enough, seem to absolve people such as Lee for oppressive behavior -- as long as an economic return is delivered.
Lee's legacy of authoritarianism lives on. This week saw the banning of a documentary about a long-time political prisoner in Singapore, Said Zahari. Suffice it to say that Singapore's credibility is shaky if it can't face up to events of 30 years ago and cites social order as a pretext for shutting down debate.
And if it wasn't clear before, it should be now: With the latest pay rise that lawmakers have awarded themselves (justification: lavishing millions of dollars on the "most talented" legislators and executive officials beats corruption), the Singaporean state can now be dubbed the world's most lucrative -- and sanitized -- protection racket. Lee, who these days goes under the risible title of "minister mentor," will himself pocket another small fortune. But even by Singaporean standards, this self-aggrandizement is so brazen that Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong has promised to donate his new riches to charity.
Lee Kwan Yew, his son and their supporters can keep their city-state kleptocracy and their largely pliant people. And long may he be courted by foreign academic powerbrokers and governments dazzled by his connections.
But Lee Kwan Yew is no friend of Taiwan. Until Singapore learns to deal with domestic political opponents other than by intimidating, bankrupting, arresting and torturing them, there is little to learn from Lee's fiefdom or his lectures. Taiwan has seen it all before -- and left it behind. -
If you are surrounded by lackeys and poodles who treat your words like gold, sooner or later, you think you are king.
For the old man, he could be deceived by his poodles to think that his poodle are actually competent.
The failure and mistake commited by lousy and stupid policy was covered by the blood money of the peasants. (Shin-wa-ti-cup)
The only 'good' policies are the one which sucks more blood money from the peasants in offering the SAME service with LONGER WAITING. (Bus Service Hike - Any improvement at all ????)
So, we are actually offering millions of our money to blood-suckers.
The old man is still think that it is money well spent.
Maybe he is forced to make stupid speech so as to save his pension. -
LKY is still a man who commands great respect and whom I hold high in esteem! His influence, wisdom and guidance cannot be underestimated. He's not just a talent but Talent Extraordinaire!
The BIGGER piece of sh1t who calls another by one!!! -
errrr am I assuming that the govt wants to attract ' foreign ' talent to govern Singapore ???? cos the current bunch not ' talented 'Originally posted by mhcampboy:No!! U r RUBBISH!! lol
The debate over the million-dollar paychecks of Singapore's cabinet ministers is "rubbish" because the city-state needs to attract extraordinary people to run it, founding leader Lee Kuan Yew said in remarks published Monday.
"The biggest mistake any Singaporean can make is to believe that Singapore is an ordinary country and can behave like an ordinary country like Malaysia, like Indonesia, like Thailand, the Philippines, Vietnam, Australia, New Zealand, Denmark," he was quoted by the Straits Times as saying over the weekend.
The blunt-talking former prime minister said the public furore over the decision to raise cabinet ministers' base salaries by more than 30 percent to 1.05 million US dollars per year was "completely unreal."
"I say, 'rubbish,'" he told 400 members of the ruling People's Action Party (PAP) on Saturday.
Singapore, with its lack of natural resources and small population, needs attractive packages to draw talented people into public service or the country's future prosperity would be at risk, Lee warned.
"The problem we now face is how to attract more talent, how to headhunt and to persuade the best to come into parliament," said Lee, 83, who remains an influential figure in the government with the title of "minister mentor."
"I see this place going for another 50 years, no problem. But you need top-grade government," Lee said.
The pay hikes for ministers and top civil servants, which take effect this month, have triggered a rare public outcry from normally reserved Singaporeans, who enjoy Southeast Asia's highest standards of living.
The pay increase boosted Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong's annual salary to 2.04 million dollars, five times more than the figure US President George W. Bush earns and more than eight times the salary of Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe.
The prime minister -- the son of the elder Lee, who now makes 2.01 million dollars -- said he will freeze his salary for five years and donate the pay increase to charity.
Ministers' salaries are calculated using a formula pegging them to the earnings of top business executives and professionals, including lawyers and bankers.
Officials have long maintained that high salaries are necessary to attract talented managers into government service and preserve Singapore's reputation as one of the most corruption-free countries in Asia.
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Clever tyrants are never punished. -Voltaire
He's a talent in excuses, faults concealment, blood sucking or a talent in self flattering? -
those who complain about the govt or LKY maybe can share what are your achievements so far and how can you make singapore better than what it is now
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So I suppose I can't criticise a footballer who's absolutely terrible just because I can't play as well as Ronaldinho? Or I shouldn't say someone who scores a B in an exam is (at least in terms of using the exam results to measure the candidates' aptitude for a subject/module) actually not as adept in the subject as another chap who scores an A just because I'm worse than both of them? Perhaps, one shouldn't be critical of some horrendous-dishes served by some incompetent hawker just because one isn't exactly an established chef himself?Originally posted by audiovideo:those who complain about the govt or LKY maybe can share what are your achievements so far and how can you make singapore better than what it is now -
please don't insult the forefathers of singapore, he has fought for our independence and clearly, this TS, has no idea what he is talking about
you are just seeking attention which your parents are not giving you at all
so please don't try to be funny, because you really know nothing at all
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Sorry.... i disagree. The TS have every right to express what he/she is feeling..... It is up to the reader to decide does the TS have 'Any Idea'...Originally posted by allentyb:please don't insult the forefathers of singapore, he has fought for our independence and clearly, this TS, has no idea what he is talking about
you are just seeking attention which your parents are not giving you at all
so please don't try to be funny, because you really know nothing at all
so for goodness sake
I'm neither Pro or Anti PAP (Govt)..... but strongly believe that all of us here have the right to said what we want...... but of course U bloody be able to support your claim...... -
His legacy will always carry a stain.... A forever stain!
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Freedom of expression is a concept many Singaporeans need to be drilled in.
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Dunt insult Mr Lee KY, his contribution to Singapore cannot be denied, if without him i think we will still be second class citizen to the malaysian still.go n wake up your fucking idea lah!!!
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Yes,yes... We shall build a 18 feet tall gold plate LKY statue and a massive palace to sing praise of our dear MM Lee...Originally posted by citymax:Dunt insult Mr Lee KY, his contribution to Singapore cannot be denied, if without him i think we will still be second class citizen to the malaysian still.go n wake up your fucking idea lah!!!