I dare the PAP challange for a whole nation vote!!!
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Come come our fellow Singapore citizens.Chllange the PAP to a whole country vote instead of those lame GRC ....vote! If the PAP want mandate from our citizens... then stop all the GRC vote and let everyone of us get a chance to vote.See if the PAP can get more than 50% of vote to carry on their rule anot.Alot of my friend support workers party because they told me it's their only way to stop a dynasty from been born.Well, but too bad they can't give their vote to the Opposition because they are staying in somewhere which was a walkover.And because it's a walkover... the PAP claim that they got the full support from most Singaporeans which i think is not true at all.That's why i think let every vote count to see if most Singaporeans support PAP policies or not!!!!!
Everyone.... stand up for what is right!!!!!!!!! -
May I know would you be a next canditate to run for election?
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i think they will rather give up their payrise than this...Originally posted by joola74:Come come our fellow Singapore citizens.Chllange the PAP to a whole country vote instead of those lame GRC ....vote! If the PAP want mandate from our citizens... then stop all the GRC vote and let everyone of us get a chance to vote.See if the PAP can get more than 50% of vote to carry on their rule anot.Alot of my friend support workers party because they told me it's their only way to stop a dynasty from been born.Well, but too bad they can't give their vote to the Opposition because they are staying in somewhere which was a walkover.And because it's a walkover... the PAP claim that they got the full support from most Singaporeans which i think is not true at all.That's why i think let every vote count to see if most Singaporeans support PAP policies or not!!!!!
Everyone.... stand up for what is right!!!!!!!!! -
pls email LHL ur suggestion
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paragraphing paragraphing.. u can't get elected if people find it hard to read your opinions on issues.
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there is no need for such a voting at all
A) we are not merging with malaysia, -
i am voting for PAP
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*sigh*
Why you so smart? Vote against PAP....better question, when they lose.
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Name me names of who's going to run the nation after that.
Please tell me who's going to run the election and replace every minister from PM and downwards.
Please tell me how much are you going to pay them.
Tell me how would that affect the economic outlook and stability of our country in the eyes of the world.
Tell me what are you going to do with Temasek.
Explain to me what's going to happen to FDI.
How would they handle the ongoing and current policies with foreign countries that has already been put in place by the current government.
How long would it take for the new government to be full force and running?
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You are very childish, only want to "win". Yay, we WIN. No more PAP.
What's going to happen next?
Sheesh. -
You cant change anything ... Best way for u is to put ur name up for election come 2011...
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if what you suggested happens i can surely tell you PAP will win.
not many people want the govt changed, just more opposing voices. -
Actually I think we should have the whole nation vote.. -
But what you mentioned is a strategy by PAP to keep Singaporeans hostage to PAP. Thats why people like Francis Seow get Bankrupted and arrested by ISA. Singaporeans must not get any viable choice and must be eliminated.Originally posted by CM06:*sigh*
Why you so smart? Vote against PAP....better question, when they lose.
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Name me names of who's going to run the nation after that.
Please tell me who's going to run the election and replace every minister from PM and downwards.
Please tell me how much are you going to pay them.
Tell me how would that affect the economic outlook and stability of our country in the eyes of the world.
Tell me what are you going to do with Temasek.
Explain to me what's going to happen to FDI.
How would they handle the ongoing and current policies with foreign countries that has already been put in place by the current government.
How long would it take for the new government to be full force and running?
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You are very childish, only want to "win". Yay, we WIN. No more PAP.
What's going to happen next?
Sheesh.
I think the best way is to make PAP form a coalition govt. Besides there is still permanent secretaries to assist the new coalition govt. But most important remember to Vote AMK GRC out. Let LHL eat humble pie. He hasnt been very popular anyway - winning barely 2/3s against young amateurs. -
Well it makes sense in reality.Originally posted by kilua:But you mentioned is a strategy by PAP to keep hold Singaporeans hostage to PAP. Thats why people like Francis Seow get Bankrupted and arrested by ISA. Singaporeans must get any viable choice and must be eliminated.
I think the best way if to make PAP form a coalition govt. Besides there is still permanent secretaries to assist the new coalition govt. But most important remember to Vote AMK GRC out. Let LHL eat humble pie. He hasnt been very popular anyway - winning barely 2/3s against young amateurs.
I mean if there are people WHO can replace every seat and i see they are people with mo shui, i will vote the opposition.
Besides, you didnt answer the question either. Trying to discredit me isnt going to change THAT reality after.
Let me give you a better scenario then. The PAP withdraws everyone from the government and not run the immediate election, who's going to do it?
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Civil Service runs the country and advises the political appointees.Originally posted by CM06:Well it makes sense in reality.
I mean if there are people WHO can replace every seat and i see they are people with mo shui, i will vote the opposition.
Besides, you didnt answer the question either. Trying to discredit me isnt going to change THAT reality after.
Let me give you a better scenario then. The PAP withdraws everyone from the government and not run the immediate election, who's going to do it?
My mentioned points still stand.
Who does the real leg work and grunt work? The Permanent Secs, Directors and DDs of the Ministries. These are the policymakers. Ministers come up the political direction based on their input.
Singapore will not collapse overnight. The bureaucracy will keep on ticking, and if these people are truly loyal to Singapore, they will advise the new government in the same manner as they did with the old. It's their profession, and they damned well do it.
As for the last point, I believe that we should move towards a coalition government, and not another hegemonic, dominant party system. Who knows if the next party that comes in will suppress political opposition as well. -
I almost want to take that in.
If that's the case, any tom dick and harry can be the minister or Pm of state because everything is done by the directors and perm secs. Who appoints or hire them? More importantly, are these "grunts" pap members as well?
Coalition government, it's the same even in the US, the one with the majority will push anything through. The other side just do things to discredit it until they get the majority and do the things they want. Wrestling for power is nasty business.
If the PAP is as bad as everyone mentioned here, i dont see the understand why you would even want a bit of them left in governmence.
To Put another note,
I'm not against another party being the all out dominant one as long as they run it right.
I'm totally sick of how things wont get pushed through because of a significant number of opposition on the other side.
Imagine, if party X is 60% has votes of the poor wants to push a tax bill to raise corporate tax and party Y has 35% and support of the rich and powerful...and you need a 70% vote to go through.... how? -
They have no confidence they will win more than 50% without walkover. That's why they are KS and still having GRCs all over Singapore. Look at their declining percentage of the winning votes for the last 2 elections, it's not a strong win for them. But that jerk Lee Hsien Long claimed he has strong mandate. Die die also must have face and win.Originally posted by joola74:Come come our fellow Singapore citizens.Chllange the PAP to a whole country vote instead of those lame GRC ....vote! If the PAP want mandate from our citizens... then stop all the GRC vote and let everyone of us get a chance to vote.See if the PAP can get more than 50% of vote to carry on their rule anot.Alot of my friend support workers party because they told me it's their only way to stop a dynasty from been born.Well, but too bad they can't give their vote to the Opposition because they are staying in somewhere which was a walkover.And because it's a walkover... the PAP claim that they got the full support from most Singaporeans which i think is not true at all.That's why i think let every vote count to see if most Singaporeans support PAP policies or not!!!!!
Everyone.... stand up for what is right!!!!!!!!!
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Look at the number of people who have placed their votes. The vote system here allows majority to win. Tell me are there majority of wise men or ignorant people? Which mean the fools always win their choice because they are greater in number.Originally posted by CM06:If the PAP is as bad as everyone mentioned here, i dont see the understand why you would even want a bit of them left in governmence. -
so you are saying...people who vote pap are fools.
Ooooookkkkay. -
Read up on the first-past-the-post electoral system, then look at the actual number of people who have CONSCIOUSLY voted for the PAP, not through walkovers, but in contested electoral districts. Then look at the overall figures. The result might surprise you and many other people.Originally posted by (human):Look at the number of people who have placed their votes. The vote system here allows majority to win. Tell me are there majority of wise men or ignorant people? Which mean the fools always win their choice because they are greater in number. -
It's not dare or don't dare lah... they tried so hard to avoid that, you think they SO STUPID to do it mey...??
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Lolx. You still here ar? How's your Case?Originally posted by Devil1976:It's not dare or don't dare lah... they tried so hard to avoid that, you think they SO STUPID to do it mey...?? -
You want, everyone want, they don't want, you and everybody also lan lan.
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PENDING... Going down to drop statement next week.Originally posted by Darkness_hacker99:Lolx. You still here ar? How's your Case? -
What purpose do you think a coalition government serves if not for checks and balance?Originally posted by CM06:Imagine, if party X is 60% has votes of the poor wants to push a tax bill to raise corporate tax and party Y has 35% and support of the rich and powerful...and you need a 70% vote to go through.... how? -
u are saying as if u experienced such things many times already.Originally posted by CM06:I'm totally sick of how things wont get pushed through because of a significant number of opposition on the other side.
so u must be happy that the govt can raise GST, approve transport fee increment, formulate their own ridiculous pay structure as they like, without any opposition, ignoring watever public outcry there might be, simply because there's no one who can stop them.