Originally posted by oxford mushroom:I would have preferred article about Singaporean start up and succeeded. That would be more inspiring. This article completely detach the reality of what it takes to succeed in Singapore, asking Singaporean to lower their expectation. Work hard rather than work smart. How to move to the next level if we continue to work more? There is only 24 hours a day and there is only so much you can give in a life time.
GROWING up in the eastern Chinese town of Wenzhou, Mr Cai Wendong went to school and fished in his spare time.
When he finished junior high, he found work as a pipe fitter in a shipyard. Life was hard, but predictable. Then some friends decided to work in Singapore and he went along. Life changed forever for the happy-go-lucky youth.
He arrived in Singapore in 1998. He did not mean to stay, but did. He met and married compatriot Fuang Ying, 31, in Singapore. Their first child, daughter Jia Ling, was born last month.
Today, he is a Singapore permanent resident, an officer in a shipyard and the proud owner of a four-room Housing Board flat.
He is living the foreign worker's 'Singapore dream'.
Mr Cai, 29, said the comforts and conveniences here - the lack of crime, low unemployment rates and the 'civilised ways' of the people - made him realise early on that this was his ticket to a better life.
His Singapore sojourn began in 1998 with a six-hour journey by bus to Shanghai for a job interview with Keppel Shipyard.
He was offered a job on the spot and was thrilled with the promise of earning three times more than in China. He declined to reveal his starting pay, but The Straits Times understands the industry norm for such a worker is around $600 a month.
He loved his job at Keppel's Tuas shipyard where he had to fit pipes that carry water, oil and gas into the hull of ships.
The safety culture impressed him. 'We all feared accidents in shipyards back home,' said Mr Cai.
In Singapore, each worker has body shields, helmets, safety shoes, goggles and gloves.
Singapore also felt like home - many people spoke Mandarin and Chinese food was plentiful.
But the early years were also fraught with anxiety. As an economic downturn gripped Singapore in the early 2000s, he worried constantly about losing his job.
'I used to feel sad when my friends were sent back after their contracts were not renewed,' said Mr Cai. 'I hoped that would never happen to me.'
He warded off retrenchment the only way he knew how: by throwing himself into his work.
[b]To impress the bosses, he and some co-workers would work through lunch, chalk up overtime often and offer to work on weekends too.
At the same time, he began enrolling in courses.
'I was young and wanted to learn more,' he said. He upgraded sufficiently to join Ngee Ann Polytechnic and is now on the last stretch of a three-year diploma course in marine and offshore technology. All his fees were paid for by his company.
With the economy looking up and rapid promotions coming his way - he is now in charge of 30 workers - Mr Cai has learnt to relax a little.
He shares an easy camaraderie with his colleagues and staff, and counts Indians, Bangladeshis and Filipinos among his good friends.
'I love roti prata and Indian movies,' he said, breaking into a Bollywood tune.
As a boss, he dishes out the same advice to rookies that his boss once gave him.
'I tell them that when you are young, it is good to attend courses and learn as much as you can,' he said.
The same drive to excel spills over to his recreation. Last year, he took top honours at a swimming and running biathlon for Keppel employees, despite taking up swimming only after coming to Singapore.
His mother has moved here to help look after the baby. 'That way, my wife and I can concentrate fully on our jobs,' he says. His wife works in an electronics factory.
Building up a nest egg is also important, now that he has a family.
Like every employee in his company, he received 7.2 months' bonus this year, much of which went into the bank. He tries to save at least $1,000 every month.
He wants his daughter to grow up in Singapore and go to university some day.
He hopes she can enjoy a life of comfort that he and his working-class wife never had.
'But for that, we must keep on working.'
Straits Times 28 April
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the government's policy is lowering the pay scale of my industry and this post is just rubbing salt on my wounds. its easy for you if its not affecting your market value.Originally posted by SumOne:These are the kind of FTs I appreciate or have a good opinion of. They come, they contribute, they add value. Also, they are grateful for the oppurtunity given here.
However, this is more than what I can say for some FTs.
Lee Kuan Yew said with reference to people earning more than $1 million dollars... and himself $2.7 million dollars, his son $2.5 million and daughter in law, unknown... he said: “if you don't pay them adequately and their families suffer... it is as simple as that...”Originally posted by fs3704l:the government's policy is lowering the pay scale of my industry and this post is just rubbing salt on my wounds. its easy for you if its not affecting your market value.
i am faced with the fact that
A - i will have to work for a lower pay due to the policy of the government
B - get into another industry with less destructive competition from FTs
C - migrate
That is the effect of globalisation. In the same way Hong Kong and Singapore took manufacturing jobs away from the Europeans in the 70s, so cheaper economies are luring businesses away from us. If Singapore companies do not hire foreign workers who are able and willing to work harder for less, these jobs will simply move to China ir India. More Singaporeans will lose their jobs.Originally posted by fs3704l:the government's policy is lowering the pay scale of my industry and this post is just rubbing salt on my wounds. its easy for you if its not affecting your market value.
i am faced with the fact that
A - i will have to work for a lower pay due to the policy of the government
B - get into another industry with less destructive competition from FTs
C - migrate
Originally posted by oxford mushroom:Rubbish! That's the kind of bullsh|t the gov wants you to believe. We will lose our jobs to China or India if we don't let in cheap foreign labour to bring down our labour cost (steal our jobs), but the labour force isn't homogenous (just look around Beijing for the English translations), the infrastructure isn't the same (our infrastructure framework, ports, telecommunication, public utilities, transport, etc), geographical framework is different (only summer in Singapore, unlike other countries which might have winter affecting productivity).
That is the effect of globalisation. In the same way Hong Kong and Singapore took manufacturing jobs away from the Europeans in the 70s, so cheaper economies are luring businesses away from us. If Singapore companies do not hire foreign workers who are able and willing to work harder for less, these jobs will simply move to China ir India. More Singaporeans will lose their jobs.
In a globalised world, you have to watch your productivity. Customers are price conscious. If you cannot produce the same product or offer the same quality of service at a price lower than that of your foreign competitors, you lose your job.
So you say your market value has diminished because of foreign competitors. Perhaps it is because you have priced yourself out of the global market. Asking the government to protect local jobs by installing barriers against global competition is self-defeating. Singapore has done well by relying on the global market. We have [b]no significant domestic market. If you try to protect jobs for locals by keeping the foreigners out, they will move the jobs elsewhere. If you block cheaper foreign goods into Singapore, they can do the same to yours and with a small domestic market, Singapore will come out the loser. Protectionism is a lose-lose situation for us.
France tried that and look what it has done to their economy. Here's a quotation from the Telegraph. Read about why Frenchmen are flocking to the UK for work:
" Economic data published last week illustrated yet again a familiar EU correlation: countries with high tax and protectionism pay for it with mass unemployment. While workers may be happier, pace the Swedish minister, there are far fewer at work. In France, unemployment has jumped to a five-year high of 10 per cent. In Germany, unemployment is now higher than at any time since the Weimar Republic."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2005/03/30/do3002.xml&sSheet=/opinion/2005/03/30/ixop.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/france/story/0,,2051463,00.html[/b]
Dun talk so much. Tell me where r u working now and how r u related the ppl in the stories. If not, please shut up and keep all this to urself!Originally posted by oxford mushroom:Haha...frog in the well speaking of things about which you have absolutely no clue. Thank God our government understands the economy far better than the likes of you who will only drive the nation from the first world to the third.
Here's what a commentator says of France:
"Why are things so different today in the United States -- and so different among Muslim young men in France? That is where economics comes in.
People who are less in demand -- whether because of inexperience, lower skills, or race -- are just as employable at lower pay rates as people who are in high demand are at higher pay rates. That is why blacks were just as able to find jobs as whites were, prior to the decade of the 1930s and why a serious gap in unemployment between black teenagers and white teenagers opened up only after 1950.
Prior to the decade of the 1930s, the wages of inexperienced and unskilled labor were determined by supply and demand. There was no federal minimum wage law and labor unions did not usually organize inexperienced and unskilled workers. That is why such workers were able to find jobs, just like everyone else, even when these were black workers in an era of open discrimination.
The first federal minimum wage law, the Davis-Bacon Act of 1931, was passed in part explicitly to prevent black construction workers from "taking jobs" from white construction workers by working for lower wages. It was not meant to protect black workers from "exploitation" but to protect white workers from competition.
Even aside from a racial context, minimum wage laws in countries around the world protect higher-paid workers from the competition of lower paid workers.
Often the higher-paid workers are older, more experienced, more skilled or more unionized. But many goods and services can be produced with either many lower skilled workers or fewer higher skilled workers, as well as with more capital and less labor or vice-versa. Employers' choices depend on the relative costs.
The net economic effect of minimum wage laws is to make less skilled, less experienced, or otherwise less desired workers more expensive -- thereby pricing many of them out of jobs. Large disparities in unemployment rates between the young and the mature, the skilled and the unskilled, and between different racial groups have been common consequences of minimum wage laws.
....France's unemployment rate is roughly double that of the United States and people who are unemployed stay unemployed much longer in France.
Unemployment rates among young Frenchmen are about 20 percent and among young Muslim men about 40 percent.
There is no free lunch, least of all for the disadvantaged."
(http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=4472)
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/917
Originally posted by SpeedStar:And Om, u are not even come close to tell us or discuss with us with ur so call statistics and theory. U dun deserve my respect altot I know u r elder than me. I shall rest my case in this thread.
aiya...only the they need to eat rice and all these ma...the rest, eat grass la!!Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:Lee Kuan Yew said with reference to people earning more than $1 million dollars... and himself $2.7 million dollars, his son $2.5 million and daughter in law, unknown... he said: “if you don't pay them adequately and their families suffer... it is as simple as that...”
on the other hand... for the rest of us it is? Have Kill In Error... no chance of letting off...
http://www.newsintercom.org/index.php?itemid=496