Originally posted by Gazelle:Bravo for the effort to provide 1 company name that beneiftted directly from the exhibitions held in Singapore, and 9 assumptions of places that will likely benefit from high profile events.
1) Companies or businesses who have directly and indirectly benefited from such high profile event.
a) PICO ART that provide the stands seats for exhibition
b) Security companies
c) Transport companies such as taxi and those providing limosine services
d) Hotel in Singapore were all able to increase their room rate during those events
e) Hawker Centre, (I have personally seen IMF delegates going to Newton Circles and Adam Road food centre trying out local food)
f) Restaurants and F&B outlets
g) Retail outlet
h) Sentosa, Singapore Zoo, Bird Park etc.
g) Singapore was able to buy BMWs 5 and 7 series at heavily discounted price for cars used at the IMF.
h) Companies at Sim Lim Square and Funan Centre has been making tons of sales during PC Sales.
and the list will go on..
From the above list, it seems that you are the only one making assumptions that are unsubstantiated.
2) Again you are making the assumption that people who goes to LV Sands for meeting will only spend money at LV Sands. (Do you have anything to support your arguement on this?) Is singapore being build around the 2 IR?
What difference does it make if your father or mine watches whatever program at home ?Originally posted by Gazelle:
Original post by Atobe:
How simple minded can you possibly get ?
MacDonalds invest in advertisements to attract the very young, so that they will continue to recognise MacDonald Clown and familiar with the taste of French Fries and Big Macs till they enter their grave.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Are you saying that your father is still watch seaseme street at home? The whole idea of Mcdonald advertisement targeting at kids is because kids will bring along their parents to spend more money at restaurant. You suggesting kids getting addicted to the taste of Big Mac and fries that you will eat their burger till they die?
Do you think that MacDonald is helping your kids, or are they helping themselves ?
This must be one of the most stupid analogy I can ever imagine.
Now, you are being driven into a tantrum, and have missed the point of what has been written in the simplest of English, but prefer to read it according to your own twisted thinking.
Having a Family Theme Park will make the visit to Singapore more palatable for any Family, and will add another avenue for LV Sands and Genting to EXTRACT Cash from the expeditures of the entire Family.
The Adults throw their monies at the Casino, while the kids throw more monies into rides and thrills.
At the end of it all who is the beneficiary ? LV Sands or Singaporeans ? Especially when the entire family do not even visit the shopping malls, or the heartlands where you are probably employed - for cheap shopping, or sight seeing, as the attractions at LV Sands and Genting will be too strong a magnet for them to resist.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Again you have contradict yourself by suggesting that Family Theme Park will make the VISIT to Singapore more patatable for and family. (Am I right to say that by having a theme park, we will attract more tourist?)
I am curious why someone who claim to be a singaporean will be againt tourist of coming to Singapore??
Again you are making stupid assumption that if tourist visit LV Sands or RWS, they will not spend money elsewhere and obviously you are look it as if it is a zero sum game.
What kind of rubbish are you talking about here ATOBE?
It seems you have a very pathetic reading ability that is not helped much by your inability to comprehend, and worsen by your prejudiced and agitated mind.Originally posted by Gazelle
Original post by Atobe:
All the existing thrill and rides in Singapore - from the propaganda Singapore Experience, to the various pathetic Volcano Mountain and Undersea World at Sentosa - are all dated and stale when compared to the more professionally planned entertainments that LV Sands and Genting-Universal Studios are bring in.
To sum it all, where is the benefit for you and other Singaporeans ?
The biggest winner will be SINGAPORE Inc, and both LV Sands and Genting.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Again you are contradicting yourself. You are complaining that singapore family attractions here in singapore are stale, and at the sametime you are against of having a world class theme park like Universal Studio.
Will I benefit from the IR? Of course I will, but I cant say that Singaporeans living overseas will get to enjoy them.
a) Instead of having to spend a few thousand dollars and take 1 week of leave from work to visit Universal Studio in USA. I can just pop by sentosa on the sunday morning and pay about 100 dollars to experience the same thrill.
b) With the arrival of LV Sands, there will be more great shows such as concert and musical to compliment our existing Esplanade program. Instead of paying skyhigh prices to watch these show in NY and London, I can do it in Singapore.
c) With the arrival of more restaurants and hotels, I will have more choices to make when entertaining guests and relative from overseas and to make their stay in Singapore a memorable one.
d) And with the arrival of IRs they will create an al least 30,000 news jobs
What else are you asking for? money from down from the sky?
Having a Family Theme Park will make the visit to Singapore more palatable for any Family, and will add another avenue for LV Sands and Genting to EXTRACT cash from the expeditures of the entire Family.
The Adults throw their monies at the Casino, while the kids throw more monies into rides and thrills.
At the end of it all who is the beneficiary ? LV Sands or Singaporeans ? Especially when the entire family do not even visit the shopping malls, or the heartlands where you are probably employed - for cheap shopping, or sight seeing, as the attractions at LV Sands and Genting will be too strong a magnet for them to resist.
All the existing thrill and rides in Singapore - from the propaganda Singapore Experience, to the various pathetic Volcano Mountain and Undersea World at Sentosa - are all dated and stale when compared to the more professionally planned entertainments that LV Sands and Genting-Universal Studios are bring in.
With your stupendous brilliance in making assumptions and coming to your own conclusions, are you sure you cannot be more self-dependent with such a simple interpretation ?Originally posted by Gazelle:
Original post by Atobe:
If you cannot even understand the concepts of ''Planned Economy'' and ''Free Market {business ?}'' - it will be too taxxxxing to help you to understand the ''concept of INCOME''.
If you want a definition - it will be far easier to get one from google; surely you are capable of typing a simple entry into Google Search ?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I dont think I was asking you about that, did I? Since you have offer to give me a lead into that, could you please explain to me what is the definition of (Free Market Business). What I know is a free market economy, not business.
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Your problem seems to be one of over anxiety and jumping to conclusions.
Did I offer you any leads, or have you made your own brilliant assumptions ?
Read what I have written and amended about - ''Free Market {business ?}''.
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""Judging by the track record of this Singapore Government, all you have is a fat hope, and the bulk of the additional income will go into the accounts of GIC and Temasek, as well as to the Private Accounts of the Cabinet Ministers and Civil Servants with more higher pay increases""
Again, I would like to ask you, what is your definition income here. If it is tax revenue you are talking isnt that a no brainer that it will have to go to GIC and Temasek and use it to pay civil servants etc. where will do you think these money goes to?
Originally posted by maurizio13:All arrivals - including those in transit - will be considered as a legitimate count for the sake of being a Number ONE destination point.
Sometimes I wonder what is the government's definition of tourist arrivals. Does transit en route to another destination qualify as arrivals.
Only people with no common sense will say that these are assumption. Do you need me to provide with you some facts to shut your mouth?Originally posted by Atobe:quote:
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Originally posted by Gazelle:
1) Companies or businesses who have directly and indirectly benefited from such high profile event.
a) PICO ART that provide the stands seats for exhibition
b) Security companies
c) Transport companies such as taxi and those providing limosine services
d) Hotel in Singapore were all able to increase their room rate during those events
e) Hawker Centre, (I have personally seen IMF delegates going to Newton Circles and Adam Road food centre trying out local food)
f) Restaurants and F&B outlets
g) Retail outlet
h) Sentosa, Singapore Zoo, Bird Park etc.
g) Singapore was able to buy BMWs 5 and 7 series at heavily discounted price for cars used at the IMF.
h) Companies at Sim Lim Square and Funan Centre has been making tons of sales during PC Sales.
and the list will go on..
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Bravo for the effort to provide 1 company name that beneiftted directly from the exhibitions held in Singapore, and 9 assumptions of places that will likely benefit from high profile events.
Originally posted by Atobe:I didnt know that transit passengers at Changi airport will create a shortage of hotel rooms in Singapore. bravo!!
All arrivals - including those in transit - will be considered as a legitimate count for the sake of being a Number ONE destination point.
We need to be Number ONE - irregardless of how the numbers are achieved, but [b]some Number ONE position is less welcome.
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Atobe, since when did I say that the IR doesnt contribute revenue to the government. What I am trying saying is that you assumption that IRs will ONLY benefits the government is 110% nonsense.Originally posted by Atobe:With your stupendous brilliance in making assumptions and coming to your own conclusions, are you sure you cannot be more self-dependent with such a simple interpretation ?
With your clever self-taught ingenuity in splitting hairs, do you need any additional tutoring ?
Yes, your no brainer assumptions will certainly be hard to beat, now that you know where the funds harvested from the IRs will be going to.
So what is the beef that you have clamoured about ?
Where do you intend to head with this unnecessary display of cleverness beyond anyone's expectation ?
Originally posted by Atobe:Isnt that the whole idea of having an IRs? To get tourist to spend money in Singapore so that it will bring financial benefits to Singaporeans.
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Am I against the World Class IR, or am I against the fact that it has been marketed dishonestly to gullible Singaporeans like yourself ?
As it is from your own argument that you will not spend a [b]''few thousand dollars and take 1 week of leave from work to visit Universal Studio in USA. I can just pop by sentosa on the sunday morning and pay about 100 dollars to experience the same thing'' - this will mean that those older entertainment facilities in the USA will not get your business, as you are already a captive consumer to the newer facilities in the Singapore IRs at the Marina and Sentosa.
Will not the same foreign tourists behave like you, and will also be a similar captive consumer to the new IR facilities at the Marina and Sentosa, and all at the expense to ''All the existing thrill and rides in Singapore - from the propaganda Singapore Experience, to the various pathetic Volcano Mountain and Undersea World at Sentosa - are all dated and stale.... '' ?
One thing is for sure, the foreign family tourist will end up spending more at the Family Entertainment and Casino than your miserably boastful $100.
Who is creating a whole load of rubbish from what I have written ?
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I suspect that you have some major memory problems or you purposely choose to forget what you have said earlier, and that is why you keep contradicting yourself. Let me ask you one more time, are you sure the the IRs in Singapore will not benefits singaporeans?Originally posted by Atobe:continuation
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It seems you have a very pathetic reading ability that is not helped much by your inability to comprehend, and worsen by your prejudiced and agitated mind.
If you are capable as you believe yourself to be, try reading my post again, with the emphasis underlined as follows
You must have forgotten what you said about IRs will ONLY benefit Singapore INC and not Singaporeans?Originally posted by Atobe:Now, you are being driven into a tantrum, and have missed the point of what has been written in the simplest of English, but prefer to read it according to your own twisted thinking.
You should read my sentence in its entirety, and if you must quote then at least quote correctly so that you cannot make mistake.
This was what was printed by me :-
''Having a Family Theme Park will make the visit to Singapore more palatable for any Family, and will add another avenue for LV Sands and Genting to EXTRACT Cash from the expeditures of the entire Family.
The Adults throw their monies at the Casino, while the kids throw more monies into rides and thrills. ''
Did I disagree with you about the methods of attracting tourists to Singapore, or is this from your own misguided assumptions ?
It is the rubbish that only your mind can think of that prevent you from clearly reading what has been written, and all your rubbish conclusions created for the sake of recovering some wounded and sore pride of being constantly cornered.
Now I am beginning to understand the rough handling methods that others have preferred in making their responses to your replies.
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Please dont bored me with Mcdonald case studies which we all study in our University. What I am saying is to counter your bulls.hit about Mcdonald trying to provide food that cause addiction to kids and they will eat Mc burger and fries till the day they die.Originally posted by Atobe:
What difference does it make if your father or mine watches whatever program at home ?
With a mentality like yours, is it any surprise that your father must have been watching the wrong shows to bring you up in the manner you have shown.
Well, I am very surprised that you finally have been able to absorb the strategy of my MacDonald analogy, and now realise that it is the kids that will bring the parents to MacDonalds.
Now to serious business, do you think that the kids will not pester their parents to visit the Family Entertainments at the IRs in Marina and Sentosa, with the Casino to tempt the adults ?
Now, how much do you think the kids can spend at the fun and games, and how much do you think the parents will spend at the Casino ?
No marks if you get it wrong, of course - just put on your thinking cap again.
a) Did some of the IMF delegate bring along their partners to Singapore?Originally posted by Atobe:[color=darkred]From the above list, it seems that you are the only one making assumptions that are unsubstantiated.
The Government had high hopes that the 2006 World Bank and IMF meeting in Singapore will inject some vitality to the local retail business. Unfortunately, the shop keepers at Suntec City were the immediate and biggest casualty, with their revenue reduced by more then half.
One month after the meeting, a survey conducted revealed that the delegates at the World Bank-IMF meeting did not spend quite as much, nor did their spouses who accompanied them.
Most of the popular tourist spots such as shopping malls and hawker centers saw no increase in business or human traffic. It was pathetic despite all the inconvenience put up by Residents in Singapore and the business community.
With the meeting held at Suntec City, and the high security given to all the high profile participants, we have seen that the mega-event has no benefit to Singaporeans, but became a nuisance with the high security and traffic diversions.
Do you think that those who visited Genting Highlands in Malaysia will make an effort to spend time in Kuala Lumpur, or if the family will simply spend their entire time and budget in the Highlands even as they must pass through Kuala Lumpur ?
Then again, how would you know, not until you have made a trip there yourself ?
Is there any logic in your last question - ''Is singapore being build around the 2 IR?'' ???
You must be worn out by your two other nemesis in this thread.
Originally posted by Gazelle:Unfortunately, common sense is not so common amongst those who gets too excited and do not substantiate their posts, but prefer to make their presence felt with all the thunder and flashy blunders.
Original post by Atobe:
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Originally posted by Gazelle:
1) Companies or businesses who have directly and indirectly benefited from such high profile event.
a) PICO ART that provide the stands seats for exhibition
b) Security companies
c) Transport companies such as taxi and those providing limosine services
d) Hotel in Singapore were all able to increase their room rate during those events
e) Hawker Centre, (I have personally seen IMF delegates going to Newton Circles and Adam Road food centre trying out local food)
f) Restaurants and F&B outlets
g) Retail outlet
h) Sentosa, Singapore Zoo, Bird Park etc.
g) Singapore was able to buy BMWs 5 and 7 series at heavily discounted price for cars used at the IMF.
h) Companies at Sim Lim Square and Funan Centre has been making tons of sales during PC Sales.
and the list will go on..
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Bravo for the effort to provide 1 company name that beneiftted directly from the exhibitions held in Singapore, and 9 assumptions of places that will likely benefit from high profile events.
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Only people with no common sense will say that these are assumption. Do you need me to provide with you some facts to shut your mouth?
Bravo {???} for your brilliance in reading and understanding.Originally posted by Gazelle:
Original post by Atobe:
All arrivals - including those in transit - will be considered as a legitimate count for the sake of being a Number ONE destination point.
We need to be Number ONE - irregardless of how the numbers are achieved, but some Number ONE position is less welcome
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I didnt know that transit passengers at Changi airport will create a shortage of hotel rooms in Singapore. bravo!!
Originally posted by maurizio13:
Sometimes I wonder what is the government's definition of tourist arrivals. Does transit en route to another destination qualify as arrivals.
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All arrivals - including those in transit - will be considered as a legitimate count for the sake of being a Number ONE destination point.
We need to be Number ONE - irregardless of how the numbers are achieved, but some Number ONE position is less welcome.
You said so much with so little words that make clear your position of moving from one shade of yellow, to another shade of green; who knows what other rainbow colored positions you intend to take - as you shift from one point to another, with the overall purpose in defense of your fixxed position that the IR will benefit Singaporeans more than the Government.Originally posted by Gazelle:
Originally posted by Atobe:
With your stupendous brilliance in making assumptions and coming to your own conclusions, are you sure you cannot be more self-dependent with such a simple interpretation ?
With your clever self-taught ingenuity in splitting hairs, do you need any additional tutoring ?
Yes, your no brainer assumptions will certainly be hard to beat, now that you know where the funds harvested from the IRs will be going to.
So what is the beef that you have clamoured about ?
Where do you intend to head with this unnecessary display of cleverness beyond anyone's expectation ?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Atobe, since when did I say that the IR doesnt contribute revenue to the government. What I am trying saying is that you assumption that IRs will ONLY benefits the government is 110% nonsense.
Yes, the entire idea of getting tourist here is to spend money but NOT in Singapore that benefit the general community, but as captive visitor spending their entire holiday at the Integrated Resorts - especially with the larger expenditure being raked in at the Casino.Originally posted by Gazelle:
Original post by Atobe:
Am I against the World Class IR, or am I against the fact that it has been marketed dishonestly to gullible Singaporeans like yourself ?
As it is from your own argument that you will not spend a ''few thousand dollars and take 1 week of leave from work to visit Universal Studio in USA. I can just pop by sentosa on the sunday morning and pay about 100 dollars to experience the same thing'' - this will mean that those older entertainment facilities in the USA will not get your business, as you are already a captive consumer to the newer facilities in the Singapore IRs at the Marina and Sentosa.
Will not the same foreign tourists behave like you, and will also be a similar captive consumer to the new IR facilities at the Marina and Sentosa, and all at the expense to ''All the existing thrill and rides in Singapore - from the propaganda Singapore Experience, to the various pathetic Volcano Mountain and Undersea World at Sentosa - are all dated and stale.... '' ?
One thing is for sure, the foreign family tourist will end up spending more at the Family Entertainment and Casino than your miserably boastful $100.
Who is creating a whole load of rubbish from what I have written ?---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Isnt that the whole idea of having an IRs? To get tourist to spend money in Singapore so that it will bring financial benefits to Singaporeans.
Yes, I could just pay for a ticket to Universal Studio in Singapore for about $100 and get the same thrill as what US provide in America. Is that hard to believe, or is that facts that you find it hard to shallow? Isnt that is the benefits which Singaporeans will gain from having an IRs.
Originally posted by Gazelle:You must be pathetically dibilated by all the bruising responses, to even come up with such a stupid question.
I suspect that you have some major memory problems or you purposely choose to forget what you have said earlier, and that is why you keep contradicting yourself. Let me ask you one more time, are you sure the the IRs in Singapore will not benefits singaporeans?
After only one post above, you seem to have regained your memory.Originally posted by Gazelle:
Original post by Atobe:
Now, you are being driven into a tantrum, and have missed the point of what has been written in the simplest of English, but prefer to read it according to your own twisted thinking.
You should read my sentence in its entirety, and if you must quote then at least quote correctly so that you cannot make mistake.
This was what was printed by me :-
''Having a Family Theme Park will make the visit to Singapore more palatable for any Family, and will add another avenue for LV Sands and Genting to EXTRACT Cash from the expeditures of the entire Family.
The Adults throw their monies at the Casino, while the kids throw more monies into rides and thrills. ''
Did I disagree with you about the methods of attracting tourists to Singapore, or is this from your own misguided assumptions ?
It is the rubbish that only your mind can think of that prevent you from clearly reading what has been written, and all your rubbish conclusions created for the sake of recovering some wounded and sore pride of being constantly cornered.
Now I am beginning to understand the rough handling methods that others have preferred in making their responses to your replies.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
You must have forgotten what you said about IRs will ONLY benefit Singapore INC and not Singaporeans?
Assumption?
Originally posted by Gazelle:Did you study anything at any University ?
Original post by Atobe:
What difference does it make if your father or mine watches whatever program at home ?
With a mentality like yours, is it any surprise that your father must have been watching the wrong shows to bring you up in the manner you have shown.
Well, I am very surprised that you finally have been able to absorb the strategy of my MacDonald analogy, and now realise that it is the kids that will bring the parents to MacDonalds.
Now to serious business, do you think that the kids will not pester their parents to visit the Family Entertainments at the IRs in Marina and Sentosa, with the Casino to tempt the adults ?
Now, how much do you think the kids can spend at the fun and games, and how much do you think the parents will spend at the Casino ?
No marks if you get it wrong, of course - just put on your thinking cap again.
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Please dont bored me with Mcdonald case studies which we all study in our University. What I am saying is to counter your bulls.hit about Mcdonald trying to provide food that cause addiction to kids and they will eat Mc burger and fries till the day they die.
The whole idea of choosing Genting's proposal is because they are able to offer something which Singapore is lacking in terms of tourist attraction, and that is Universal Studio and Dreamworks which does all the animations movie.
And but saying that dont you think that your theory of PM Badawi pressuring Singapore government to award the Sentosa IR to Genting Int. is nothing but bull.shit?
I hope you realise it by now.
Was Suntec Mall shut completely, or only the entry points to conference halls ?Originally posted by Gazelle:
a) Did some of the IMF delegate bring along their partners to Singapore?
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With all expense paid by their respective governments, do you think they will not bring their spouse ?You happen to see a few IMF delegates - out of the 1000 over delegates, how few is your number that you happen to see ?
b) I happen to see a few IMF delegates eating the famous prawn noodles at Adams Road. Want proof? Go ask the stall owner.
Probably all foreigners that happened to be in Singapore during that period, will be considered to be IMF delegates - especially by one who easily go gagagoogoo over the most mundane of personalities.
Yes, I believe you that these Big Bankers and High Government Officials will visit Adam Road Hawker Centers just to eat Prawn Noodle, all dressed in suits, when free meal is provided in air conditioned comfort at Suntec; and almost everyday is an all day program through lunch and dinners.Are you dumb enough to ask these questions, and you are supposed to be tertiary educated ? Surely, NUS and NTU could not have contributed to your dubious brilliant standards ?
c) Doesnt IMF delegate have to eat? Who do you think prepared and provided the food?
d) Using Suntec as an example it flawed because we know that the place at Suntec are literary shut during the meeting.
Who owns the hotels ?
f) Did Singapore hotel industry benefits from IMF convention?
Full marks for paying attention to what the Government has said - and with such diligence.
The reason we need highprofile event such as Olympic, IMF, F1, is because it help to market our country globally and that will help bring future tourist to Singapore. And beside that what our government is doing it to no put everything in one basket and that is why we have MICE business to compliment the leisure tourists.
Would you mind explaning why during the IMF meeting in Sep06, which is the last month of Q3 2006, there is a surge in both retails and hotel & restaurant industry? I thought your survey has indicated that during the IMF meeting there was a slump in retail business?Originally posted by Atobe:Unfortunately, common sense is not so common amongst those who gets too excited and do not substantiate their posts, but prefer to make their presence felt with all the thunder and flashy blunders.
M13 is questioning if the number include transit passenger, and your reply was that singapore government will use whatever number they want to make in no.1.Originally posted by Atobe:[/i]
Was 'maurizio13' and I discussing about transit passengers with hotel shortages ?
Bravo for your pathetic efforts to misquote the line of discussion. And you were even trying to copy my style ?
Try a little more originality if you cannot even plagiarise with some degree of accuracy.
Are you so desparate to make a score after having been continously mauled ?
Atobe, like i said many time, critising your nonsense doesnt mean that I am supportive of the government. I hope you get this fact right because you are full of nonsense.Originally posted by Atobe:You said so much with so little words that make clear your position of moving from one shade of yellow, to another shade of green; who knows what other rainbow colored positions you intend to take - as you shift from one point to another, with the overall purpose in defense of your fixxed position that the IR will benefit Singaporeans more than the Government.
Do you need to say anything more, when your expert stand is on a foundation of shifting sand that continuously change its shape and features with each sweep of the wave that is about to drown you ?
Atobe, you can say anything you want, if you cant proof it with any logic, statistic, or facts etc, all you are doing is speculating.Originally posted by Atobe:Yes, the entire idea of getting tourist here is to spend money but NOT in Singapore that benefit the general community, but as captive visitor spending their entire holiday at the Integrated Resorts - especially with the larger expenditure being raked in at the Casino.
The point of discussion is not about your expenditure of spending any amount in Singapore or in the USA, and who will believe that you have even a $100 to spend when you are probably still dependent on your parents - judging from the thinking quality of your responses.
The original point of contention - that you have now tried to deviate and lose the line of debate - was that you have suggested that Singaporeans will generally benefit directly from the Integrated Resorts; and I have already shown you that with the newer facilities at the Integrated Resorts, all the other older facilities that are dated and worn out will not be able to compete with the newer facilities offered by the IRs.
With the newer attractions at the two IRs at the Marina and Sentosa holding captive all the future arrivals, the fallout benefit to other trades will be minimal, and Singaporeans in general will not benefit as much compared to the benefits that the Singapore Government and its Singapore Inc will get.
If you want to twist and turn to save face, you got to be a little more expert in your attempt to blur the lines between being honest and sneaky.