For China -bashers...
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i hate to add on to this...but i just have to say...Originally posted by LazerLordz:Guys, I think dreameryb and dreamerkite are clones, and their sole aim is to cause a flame war.
Don't fall into their trap. It's tempting, but just ignore this thread and kill it.
Mod, please close these two China threads. Thanks.
we singaporeans may be alot of things...but we sure are united when the going gets tough and when we are bashed in our own country, we fight as one
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The reason I did that because I felt that the chinese-bashing Singaporeans are the ones who are wrong. But nevermind all that. Like I said in my previous post, imma just chill now and I recommend you do the same. Peace.Originally posted by rmyfrm:EDIT: let me just reiterate to you where exactly you stand: -
1) You said that you're a non-citizen and as such unbiased
2) However, having made that statement, you chose to bag chinese-bashing Singaporeans, instead of bagging over-demanding PRCs
You see how they conflict? -
agree, and such people are sheepo whatever and that slipshades. Think these two are clones.Originally posted by oozie:I agree wif u on tis, there r really pple here wif evil intent, tryin to add fuel to flame & they seem to enjoy it
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Wa, what a generalisation!!! Wrong, then you are right?Originally posted by jondizzle foshizzle:The reason I did that because I felt that the chinese-bashing Singaporeans are the ones who are wrong. -
Meh bashing people because of their nationality is wrong however you may look at it.Originally posted by rane:Wa, what a generalisation!!! Wrong, then you are right? -
Ur views on singaporeans-bashing chinese ?Originally posted by jondizzle foshizzle:The reason I did that because I felt that the chinese-bashing Singaporeans are the ones who are wrong. -
Well the chinese shouldn't bash singaporeans either but i feel for my china brother here. He takes a lot of sh*t from singaporeans all the time and he just stood up for himself.Originally posted by Trump_Card:Ur views on singaporeans-bashing chinese ? -
Damn straight.Originally posted by jondizzle foshizzle:The reason I did that because I felt that the chinese-bashing Singaporeans are the ones who are wrong. But nevermind all that. Like I said in my previous post, imma just chill now and I recommend you do the same. Peace.
Get ths right: you think they are wrong; but who is to say that you are right. And if you cannot confirm that you are right, you don't deserve to go bagging one party over the other until you know for sure.
Position is different for Singaporeans. A double standard exists simply because we are directly connected to the issue in question whereas you're just a third party. We can bag fellow Singaporeans as Singaporeans, and sure as hell we can bag the PRCs as the other party caught up in this debate. Likewise the PRCs can do the same. BUT YOU, you don't fit anywhere and definitely do not deserve to bag us Singaporeans or the PRCs.
I'm glad to see you've taken a chill pill. Stay that way. -
This only goes to prove how lightly you touch the surface of things.Originally posted by jondizzle foshizzle:Well the chinese shouldn't bash singaporeans either but i feel for my china brother here. He takes a lot of sh*t from singaporeans all the time and he just stood up for himself.
You hear a few insults and get worked up. Boy ... you don't see the educational/work/economic opportunities lost. If you did, you'd understand alot more about the position that chinese-bashing Singaporeans take.
Just to let you know, I ain't one. But I definitely ain't PRC-loving either. I love Singapore. That's it. Which is why I won't stand the sh1t thrown my way by PRCs with regards to Singapore or Singaporeans. -
Bashing? People are just talking about misbehaviour of the PRCs and you are talking about bashing.Originally posted by jondizzle foshizzle:Meh bashing people because of their nationality is wrong however you may look at it. -
Ok you've got me confused. So you all that stuff you were saying wasn't bashing? LOL right....not bashing at all...Originally posted by rane:Bashing? People are just talking about misbehaviour of the PRCs and you are talking about bashing. -
Yea don't listen to me, I'm just bored and stoned so I hardly have any idea what I'm talking about.Originally posted by rmyfrm:This only goes to prove how lightly you touch the surface of things.
You hear a few insults and get worked up. Boy ... you don't see the educational/work/economic opportunities lost. If you did, you'd understand alot more about the position that chinese-bashing Singaporeans take.
Just to let you know, I ain't one. But I definitely ain't PRC-loving either. I love Singapore. That's it. Which is why I won't stand the sh1t thrown my way by PRCs with regards to Singapore or Singaporeans. -
Jon your replies are truly dissapointing. I have yet to hear a single substantive argument in support of the case you purport to make.Originally posted by jondizzle foshizzle:Ok you've got me confused. So you all that stuff you were saying wasn't bashing? LOL right....not bashing at all...
I expect alot from you simply because you as a third party seem to have alot to say, which if I may add, with real strong sentiment.
I thought that when you said you were going to "chill out". Whatever is, just stop posting please! -
THERE WE GO.Originally posted by jondizzle foshizzle:Yea don't listen to me, I'm just bored and stoned so I hardly have any idea what I'm talking about.
Finally a reason I can put behind immature, unintelligent posts. -
Just coz I'm chillin doesn't mean I can't be postin. I'm just not taking sides no mo and just posting general comments.Originally posted by rmyfrm:THERE WE GO.
Finally a reason I can put behind immature, unintelligent posts.
hooray for me -
rmyfrm, there are just three others who are just like the above persons (in Chit Chat). These people came here purely to stir up troubles by simply deliberately point fingers and twist words to say that we are prejudice and bashing the PRCs. They refuse to accept that we are just not happy and talking about the misbehaviour of the PRCs, and go on to accuse. This shows obviously they are troublemakers.Originally posted by rmyfrm:THERE WE GO.
Finally a reason I can put behind immaturity and unintelligent posts. -
Jon I'm thankful you have finally seen the light. This is the single most valuable post you've made in this entire thread. Good for you!Originally posted by jondizzle foshizzle:Just coz I'm chillin doesn't mean I can't be postin. I'm just not taking sides no mo and just posting general comments. hooray for me -
i believe those who 'act neutral' and play along 'singaporeans are generalising' are asking for it
generally each group of people have their own culture, and strangely, we never had problems with other people's culture and behaviour, only PRCs
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I consciously decided to participate in only one thread (which I chose based on how substantive the TS's post was) in the event that it was just a buncha kids.Originally posted by rane:rmyfrm, there are just three others who are just like the above persons (in Chit Chat). These people came here purely to stir up troubles by simply deliberately point fingers and twist words to say that we are prejudice and bashing the PRCs. They refuse to accept that we are just not happy and talking about the misbehaviour of the PRCs, and go on to accuse. This shows obviously they are troublemakers.
If they aren't, then at least I can sleep easy knowing that I didn't take sh1t from no one about my country or my fellow Singaporeans, by actively opposing any accusation made. -
Guess what, one of them went "Chit Chat" blah blah blah about singaporeans. She herself is a Singaporean. Just got to know that she is hurt by Singaporeans so she came to "Chit Chat" and blah blah blah about Singaporeans. STrange! I have told her to find the right source to deal with her problems.Originally posted by rmyfrm:I consciously decided to participate in only one thread (which I chose based on how substantive the TS's post was) in the event that it was just a buncha kids.
If they aren't, then at least I can sleep easy knowing that I didn't take sh1t from no one about my country or my fellow Singaporeans, by actively opposing any accusation made.
It definitely pays to be objective!!! Glad those of us here are clear about what we are standing firm for!! -
That is not insulting. Most usually, it is called 'pang guang zhe qing', as in a third party is able to see and judge more objectively, and subjectively without being biased.Originally posted by rmyfrm:That is truly insulting you know; your very statement insinuates that because of our nationality, we have less integrity.
You should consider whether your opinion is wanted; this is not like any other random crappy thread on sgForums - this is a discussion central to the political governance and direction in which Singapore is headed, as well as to the lack lustre attitude and position that certain Singaporeans have taken.
With regards to the political governance and direction of Singapore, as a non-citizen who has nothing to lose, your comments are most unwelcome. Even if you have nothing to gain, you have nothing to lose - and that is the crux.
With regards to the demeaning comments made by chinese-bashing Singaporeans, you cannot understand the position they come from unless you are a citizen of the country as they are, and experience yourself first hand the interaction they have had with any PRCs
EDIT: let me just reiterate to you where exactly you stand: -
1) You said that you're a non-citizen and as such unbiased
2) However, having made that statement, you chose to bag chinese-bashing Singaporeans, instead of bagging over-demanding PRCs
You see how they conflict?
And what's with the Not-Singaporean=shutup thing?
The topic did not start as a political. -
I'm surprised you are dragging the whole thing here, rane. Without any sound or warning, too.Originally posted by rane:rmyfrm, there are just three others who are just like the above persons (in Chit Chat). These people came here purely to stir up troubles by simply deliberately point fingers and twist words to say that we are prejudice and bashing the PRCs. They refuse to accept that we are just not happy and talking about the misbehaviour of the PRCs, and go on to accuse. This shows obviously they are troublemakers.
And you can just keep on being delusional, you know.
And btw, quit whining. Especially if you a guy. -
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It is lamentable, that to be a good patriot one must become the enemy of the rest of mankind. -Voltaire
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There are rascists in any country the world over, not just Singapore.
Just because one has been affected by some does not mean that all are rascists.
You're just unlucky