Lee Kwan Yew and his stance on privacy
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LKY: "I am often accused of interfering in the private lives of citizens. Yet, if I did not, had I not done that, we wouldn’t be here today. And I say without the slightest remorse, that we wouldn’t be here, we would not have made economic progress, if we had not intervened on very personal matters – who your neighbor is, how you live, the noise you make, how you spit, or what language you use. We decide what is right, never mind what the people think. That’s another problem."
CSJ : paraphrase - If you are going to interfere with the lives of citizens to that degree, how can you then turn around and say that the poverty situation in Singapore today is not the business of the government? -
CSJ is twisting LKY words -
Well done! CSJ!
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x2Originally posted by ShutterBug:Well done! CSJ! -
We decide what is right, never mind what the people think. ThatÂ’s another problem.
Did CSJ hear this part?
And everybody gets this part right, you do understand now why GST increase is to help the poor?
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i wonder why we can't decide what is right for us? so if the govt will to go out and kill innocent people, they are right too?Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Did CSJ hear this part?
And everybody gets this part right, you do understand now why GST increase is to help the poor? -
If according to his logic, yes.Originally posted by freedom4ever:i wonder why we can't decide what is right for us? so if the govt will to go out and kill innocent people, they are right too?
But I don't think they will want to kill people, because money is more important to them. Kill us all, they are left with nothing to squeeze. -
Please. The government can't do everything.
The only one that can do is god and I haven't seen him around lately. -
No twist, that above paragraph is exact words if not almost exact of what LKY said on privacy laws in singaporeOriginally posted by allentyb:
CSJ is twisting LKY words -
Hey alamak, good one there bro...Originally posted by Parka: Please. The government can't do everything.
The only one that can do is god and I haven't seen him around lately.
He not around, so I guess that's why 'they' try to stand in for Him...
hehehehe
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No, it isn't. The Govt has steadfastly avoided any comprehensive action thus far to help the poor and most of it are half-baked executed by incompetent civil servants.Originally posted by allentyb:
CSJ is twisting LKY words
Moreover, the Bastard has yet to show any remorse for his blatant eugenics remarks 2 decades ago. A gross insult to a lot of people, not least the notion of meritocracy which the Buffoons continuously preach. -
I am pro-CSJ
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Me too bro...Originally posted by Darkness_hacker99:I am pro-CSJ
But I don't think I or anyone here can match the guts he has...
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Yup!Originally posted by ShutterBug:Me too bro...
But I don't think I or anyone here can match the guts he has... -
Meritocracy? That's just a tagline integral in preserving this regime, ain't it? Cut that thug some slack for not every despot and tyrant out there is sufficiently well-endowed to execute their onerous ambitions. Afterall, he's been trying to usurp Hitler in the tyrant stakes for a lifetime, but still hasn't come anywhere close to matching the grand master...Originally posted by Fingolfin_Noldor:No, it isn't. The Govt has steadfastly avoided any comprehensive action thus far to help the poor and most of it are half-baked executed by incompetent civil servants.
Moreover, the Bastard has yet to show any remorse for his blatant eugenics remarks 2 decades ago. A gross insult to a lot of people, not least the notion of meritocracy which the Buffoons continuously preach. -
Hes got the guts but he aint got the brains though hes got a PhD ... If CST or LTK behaves like him , we will have no opposition MP in singapore liao ... But I like him though...Originally posted by ShutterBug:Me too bro...
But I don't think I or anyone here can match the guts he has... 
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Yup!Originally posted by ShutterBug:Me too bro...
But I don't think I or anyone here can match the guts he has...
I admire his guts. He have the balls to do things that average joes like us doesn't dare to do. -
Well, I am trying to show that they indulge in double speak of the first order.Originally posted by walesa:Meritocracy? That's just a tagline integral in preserving this regime, ain't it? Cut that thug some slack for not every despot and tyrant out there is sufficiently well-endowed to execute their onerous ambitions. Afterall, he's been trying to usurp Hitler in the tyrant stakes for a lifetime, but still hasn't come anywhere close to matching the grand master... -
There is poverty in any and every country.......fact of life.
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Only difference is that this country does its best to pretend it doesn't exist.Originally posted by Rock^Star:There is poverty in any and every country.......fact of life.
And at the same time tells the poor that they deserve to be poor because they are poor. -
So what happens when the people feel that what they decide is wrong?Originally posted by Jontst78:We decide what is right, never mind what the people think. ThatÂ’s another problem."
And what if the people are right and what the government decides really turns out to be wrong? -
Originally posted by fudgester:
You're just supposed to assume the fascists are right. Period.
So what happens when the people feel that what they decide is wrong?
And what if the people are right and what the government decides [b]really turns out to be wrong?[/b] -
and assumptions are the stepmothers of cock-ups.Originally posted by walesa:You're just supposed to assume the fascists are right. Period. -
Originally posted by fudgester:
We need the guts of ancient Chinese to overthrow this regime.
So what happens when the people feel that what they decide is wrong?
And what if the people are right and what the government decides [b]really turns out to be wrong?[/b] -
Sometimes i find it shocking not only in this statement but other statements too, about LKY's degrading view of men as animals that must be trained to meet his political goals and who's rights may be sacrificed as he sees fit, who's personal lives he may interfere as he feels right.. Doesn't anyone else feel so?