Room Enough for 6 Million?
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this is one of the old news, that i have read, and i hope we will have enough land for 6 million, after we have been actively in reclaiming land, and malaysia have been complaining about us, destroying the 'environment' and threaten the livelihood of those fishermen
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Why don't he join back WP?Originally posted by ShutterBug:In all that matters, best wishes goes out to JBJ in his latest endeavour to form another party to reform the way Singapore has been run all these decades...
A louder, stronger voice, is MUCH NEEDED in Parliament, for The People!!!
Seriously he should just stop .. LKY will continue to crush him in parliament even if he is elected. -
Originally posted by ShutterBug:
Go ask that "kind" Lee Hsien Loong lor, since he is the one who talked about want population to reach 6 million. Just doubt his intelligence when he made this statement.
With the current population as it is, hospitals are already hard put to room patients. What will happen, when we reach 6 million?
They can acknowledge that this is due to a higher than normal cases of infectious deseases, but hwy do you think this is so? Take a look at how crowded our MRT is during peak hours, and you can have a good idea what is causing a higher cases of infections....
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[b]Hospitals running out of room
By Tan Hui Leng, TODAY | Posted: 18 May 2007 0758 hrs
SINGAPORE: A spike in infectious disease cases and other factors have pushed occupancy rates up at hospitals here — resulting in patients in C- and B2-class wards engaged in a game of musical chairs or, in this case, beds.
From putting orthopaedic patients in psychiatric wards, to giving C-class patients free upgrades, the healthcare institutions are trying more than ever to cope with the burgeoning patient load.
The National University Hospital (NUH), for one, is "filled to the brim", one doctor told TODAY. "We have been told to hold off elective day surgeries and every day, we're urged to discharge patients quickly if they are fit enough to go home," he said.
The NUH said occupancy rates had hit 90 to 95 per cent in the last three weeks. Singapore General Hospital has seen 89- to 97-per-cent bed occupancy over the past two weeks.
Tan Tock Seng Hospital (TTSH), meanwhile, has hovered at between 88- and 93-per-cent occupancy this year. The hospital's former chief operating officer Christopher Tay explained: "At every hospital, there is a trigger point for bed occupancy which averages 80 per cent across different departments.
"When these points are hit, the bed management units at hospitals will tell doctors to 'actively discharge' patients."
However, doctors would only persuade patients who are truly fit enough to go home, assured Mr Tay.
"Many patients are actually fit to go home but remain due to social reasons such as not having a carer at home. If the trigger point has not been met, doctors usually give such patients the benefit of the doubt. But if they occupy a bed when a patient who is truly ill needs it, then they need to be persuaded to be discharged."
With the heavily subsidised C-class wards often full, incoming patients have to be directed to wards for other specialities or upgraded to higher-class wards. But they continue to enjoy the 80-per-cent subsidy on their ward charges.
While hospitals can just about cope with the normal overflow, the situation is compounded seasonally. Currently, the virus du jour is the flu, with upper respiratory tract infections at polyclinics up 40 per cent last week over the same period last year.
Also in the air are dengue fever, chicken pox, and hand, foot and mouth disease, with a spike in cases. So it is no surprise if, in general, the 65-per-cent subsidised B2 class wards are full as well, said Mr Tay.
"It's very busy, there just seems to be many more sick people around," a Changi General Hospital doctor told Today.
The usually calm 775-bed hospital in Simei has had patients fill beds in wards not designated for their conditions, as public hospitals only transfer patients to another hospital as a last resort.
As C-class wards are perpetually in high demand, no adequate solution seems to be in sight, even as the unpopular move that is means-testing has been mooted. And simply increasing the number of such beds may not be the good idea it seems.
Said Mr Tay: "We put in an extra C-class ward when I was at TTSH and it was quickly filled up; it's a bottomless pit."
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The longer he stays in the position as the PM the more crap he is going to create and we the people of Singapore will have non stop nonsense/nuisance from him.. Taking into consideration the fact that his sincerity in serving the nation is in doubt, I don't think he will do much to provide a good life for all when the population reach 6 million. All he cares is himself!!!
We are very unfortunate, unlucky to have him as our PM. Still contemplating the thought that we will get someone who is better than PM to replace him. -
They can cross over to China.Originally posted by Fatum:hong kong is approximately three times the size of singapore .... and even THEY are feeling the effects of over-crowding .....
would anyone need 10 A's to figure out what it'll be like for us ? ...
But can Singaporeans live on the sea?
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Well, if there are more chio bus raising the poulation to 6 mln, I dun mind to squeeze a bit lor. But if more bangala & prc guys, ngaaaaarch pwee!!!!!
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Do ministers and civil servants go private or public? or is it they cannot afford? Not everybody wants to stay in hotels when they are sick. Singapore has enough money to provide decent medical and health care for ALL its citizens, there is no need to force anybody to pay more than necessary.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:Public hospitals too cheap....too many people who can afford private haelthcare choose to stay in public hospitals. Means testing is the way to go...force those who can afford it to go to the private sector. -
The answer is yes, ministers and civil servants go to both private and public. Don't forget they the ministers have medical benefits, too. When they go public govt hospitals they are considered VIPs. So you now you know doctors and nurses treat them with special care. Priority is above the ordinary taxpayers. So where is fairness?Originally posted by sgdiehard:Do ministers and civil servants go private or public? or is it they cannot afford? Not everybody wants to stay in hotels when they are sick. Singapore has enough money to provide decent medical and health care for ALL its citizens, there is no need to force anybody to pay more than necessary. -
4.4 millions people at the current situation are already overcrowded. what happen if there are 6.5 millions???
what i'm afraid that the majority of the citizens are foreigners, then the locals' life will be at stake.
if u do not want foreigners to keep coming, it's time for u to make more babies! -
LKY is not an Immortal.. hence, no one will give up in the knowledge that EVERYONE, has their time...Originally posted by Icemoon:Why don't he join back WP?
Seriously he should just stop .. LKY will continue to crush him in parliament even if he is elected.
How long more, do you think he can go on..??
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i am one jerk who wish dat LKY will live until to see his PAP fall one day.Originally posted by ShutterBug:LKY is not an Immortal.. hence, no one will give up in the knowledge that EVERYONE, has their time...
How long more, do you think he can go on..?? -
ministers make more than 100k a month.Originally posted by 798:4.4 millions people at the current situation are already overcrowded. what happen if there are 6.5 millions???
what i'm afraid that the majority of the citizens are foreigners, then the locals' life will be at stake.
if u do not want foreigners to keep coming, it's time for u to make more babies!
they should set a good example by producing 10 babies each. -
u nvr know some of them already have kids wif their mistresses. :-3Originally posted by dragg:ministers make more than 100k a month.
they should set a good example by producing 10 babies each. -
Why?Originally posted by 798:u nvr know some of them already have kids wif their mistresses. :-3
Have you heard stories? -
All animals are equal, except some animals are more equal than others.Originally posted by rane:The answer is yes, ministers and civil servants go to both private and public. Don't forget they the ministers have medical benefits, too. When they go public govt hospitals they are considered VIPs. So you now you know doctors and nurses treat them with special care. Priority is above the ordinary taxpayers. So where is fairness? -
Originally posted by maurizio13:All animals are equal, except some animals are more equal than others.
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Reclaimining, dig dig dig, one day Singapore is going to sink!!! Let the jerk be the first to be drowned!!!Originally posted by allentyb:this is one of the old news, that i have read, and i hope we will have enough land for 6 million, after we have been actively in reclaiming land, and malaysia have been complaining about us, destroying the 'environment' and threaten the livelihood of those fishermen -
Speaking about the policy of increasing the population until six million, two likely reason are an increase in the ageing population.
The other is an increase in outflow of locals to other countries.
Majority not likely to come back anytime soon. -
I note that the Earthquake's Epicenter in our region (Sumatra) is creeping slowly closer year by year...Originally posted by rane:Reclaimining, dig dig dig, one day Singapore is going to sink!!! Let the jerk be the first to be drowned!!!
So much reclaimed land, one word comes into my mind should the tremors we so far felt over the years, become outright quakes - LIQUIFACTION. -
Agreed.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:Public hospitals too cheap....too many people who can afford private haelthcare choose to stay in public hospitals. Means testing is the way to go...force those who can afford it to go to the private sector.