Riots break out at German rally
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Nah! It might be good for OM.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:What are the effects?
The word "pneumatic" certainly doesn't hint anything good to me.
Science and technology are invented not for abuse.
Stick to Tasers if the riot police wants to stop them.
Pneumatic is something you stick up OM's arse.
Tasers are something you hook onto OM's 2 nipples.
Perhaps he should change from OM to SM, makes more sense. -
Our best tactic was to exclude them in the first place. Block the troublemakers from entering the country...confine their activties to a specific locality and police them with an overwhelming force.Originally posted by LazerLordz:So.....what makes you think our riot police tactics will work on them?
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None of them are lethal but they are pretty nasty and effective.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:What are the effects?
The word "pneumatic" certainly doesn't hint anything good to me.
Science and technology are invented not for abuse.
Stick to Tasers if the riot police wants to stop them.
The ultimate responsibility of the police is the protection of citizens and their property. Those who would try to disrupt the peace and damage property like the hooligans at the G8 meeting (did you see the burning cars?) deserve to be treated most severely. The entire armamentarium available to the riot police should be used. -
But also not to kill.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:None of them are lethal but they are pretty nasty and effective.
The ultimate responsibility of the police is the protection of citizens and their property. Those who would try to disrupt the peace and damage property like the hooligans at the G8 meeting (did you see the burning cars?) deserve to be treated most severely. The entire armamentarium available to the riot police should be used.
Protecting citizens is one issue, arresting the rioters is another. If the use of such weapons resulted in the death of of quite a few rioters, it will only give more reason for the rioters to continue, not back off.
True, they will be scared when their fellow rioters suddenly drop to the ground, but once they recover from the shock, it will be disastrous.
Also, the fact that they will go on riots showed that they are educated, they are informed. Even if they can't get the special equipment to protect them, there are ways to get around things.
With such nice toys in their hands, I would like an assurance that such equipment are being used properly (if they are ever in Singapore), and not using on every occasion when riots break out. -
Right on comrade!!!Originally posted by oxford mushroom:None of them are lethal but they are pretty nasty and effective.
The ultimate responsibility of the police is the protection of citizens and their property. Those who would try to disrupt the peace and damage property like the hooligans at the G8 meeting (did you see the burning cars?) deserve to be treated most severely. The entire armamentarium available to the riot police should be used.
If your pneumatic anal stimulator and your nipple tasers don't work, then you will roll out the tanks à la Tiananmen Massacre.
You have a bright future ahead as a high ranking member of the politburo.
Quite actually, there is no need for you to indulge us in your plethora of bedroom SM paraphernalia. -
Plastic bullets can kill close enough range. Or crack a bone. Almost any of the so called non-lethal weapons could kill if used inappropriately.
I guess we can use OM to test whether his claim of non-lethality is true before we actually use it against people. -
I think you left a few details out.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:Our best tactic was to exclude them in the first place. Block the troublemakers from entering the country...confine their activties to a specific locality and police them with an overwhelming force. -
how many peace demostration has manage to change the mindset or policy of ruling party.
sometime using force could e the only solution.
if there are no other alternative. -
Actually, the Vietnam war was ended because of vigorous demonstrations.Originally posted by reyes:how many peace demostration has manage to change the mindset or policy of ruling party.
sometime using force could e the only solution.
if there are no other alternative.
Also, unless a Govt wishes to be "courageous", i.e. lose the next election, large demonstrations cannot be ignored.
Of course, in the case of Singapore, it wouldn't matter anyway because the Govt regards its citizens as mere tools. -
That's why they are called non-lethal weaponsOriginally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:But also not to kill.
Protecting citizens is one issue, arresting the rioters is another. If the use of such weapons resulted in the death of of quite a few rioters, it will only give more reason for the rioters to continue, not back off. -
It won't matter because the majority of Singaporeans support the government's actions. You are in the minority.Originally posted by Fingolfin_Noldor:Actually, the Vietnam war was ended because of vigorous demonstrations.
Also, unless a Govt wishes to be "courageous", i.e. lose the next election, large demonstrations cannot be ignored.
Of course, in the case of Singapore, it wouldn't matter anyway because the Govt regards its citizens as mere tools. -
If you use force against a democratically elected government, you invite equally forceful restraint from the authorities.Originally posted by reyes:how many peace demostration has manage to change the mindset or policy of ruling party.
sometime using force could e the only solution.
if there are no other alternative. -
depends on what degree of democracy actually exists.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:If you use force against a democratically elected government, you invite equally forceful restraint from the authorities.
think GDR.
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The majority can go and reap what they sow, in hell too.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:It won't matter because the majority of Singaporeans support the government's actions. You are in the minority. -
HahahaahahahahahahahhaOriginally posted by oxford mushroom:If you use force against a democratically elected government, you invite equally forceful restraint from the authorities.
We actually have a democracy? Fool, I challenge you to request for the Govt to dispense with illusion and declare themselves the a dictatorship. Go on, I am daring you to do so. Since you practically advocate a dictatorship. The Govt got only 66% of the 66% of the population that could actually vote. Which makes it only 43.56% that actually admit support for the Govt. What about the rest?
And you call that force? Placards do exactly, WHAT? Aside from using them to whack you in the head?
By the way, if you don't exactly go on the street and demonstrate that we should have a dictatorship, then you are just further proving you are a coward and scum of the earth. -
i wonder why the rioters never used molotov cocktails at them.
a primitive and deadly weapon
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That's because killing people isn't their intention.Originally posted by qwerys:i wonder why the rioters never used molotov cocktails at them.
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haha same old argument...when the Opposition cannot even persuade enough of their own members to stand for elections, blame it on the government. By your argument, if the Opposition parties cannot even field a single candidate, does that mean the elections will be invalid? No, it just shows how little support Opposition parties have.Originally posted by Fingolfin_Noldor:Hahahaahahahahahahahha
We actually have a democracy? Fool, I challenge you to request for the Govt to dispense with illusion and declare themselves the a dictatorship. Go on, I am daring you to do so. Since you practically advocate a dictatorship. The Govt got only 66% of the 66% of the population that could actually vote. Which makes it only 43.56% that actually admit support for the Govt. What about the rest?
And you call that force? Placards do exactly, WHAT? Aside from using them to whack you in the head?
By the way, if you don't exactly go on the street and demonstrate that we should have a dictatorship, then you are just further proving you are a coward and scum of the earth. -
they did...but i suppose not very effective when they are drowned by water cannonsOriginally posted by qwerys:i wonder why the rioters never used molotov cocktails at them.
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And what democracy is there in a military coup? Think Thailand, Myanmar and PakistanOriginally posted by LazerLordz:depends on what degree of democracy actually exists.
think GDR.
In any case, democracy is overated. Political democracy does not always translate into prosperity and a better life...think Indonesia and the Philippines
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On the other hand, a true democracy does not mean there would be no flourishing economy. Your logic is skewed.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:And what democracy is there in a military coup? Think Thailand, Myanmar and Pakistan
In any case, democracy is overated. Political democracy does not always translate into prosperity and a better life...think Indonesia and the Philippines -
Ans where did you get that information from?Originally posted by oxford mushroom:they did...but i suppose not very effective when they are drowned by water cannons
Here's how the protests elsewhere went alright: http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,487281,00.html -
has anyone heard of the million man march?Originally posted by Kuali Baba:Ans where did you get that information from?
Here's how the protests elsewhere went alright: http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,487281,00.html -
I read there is a protest against the present rulers in Thailand over the handling of the economy.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:And what democracy is there in a military coup? Think Thailand, Myanmar and Pakistan
In any case, democracy is overated. Political democracy does not always translate into prosperity and a better life...think Indonesia and the Philippines -
Oh quit whoring our neighbours, and look North of your lovely UK.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:And what democracy is there in a military coup? Think Thailand, Myanmar and Pakistan
In any case, democracy is overated. Political democracy does not always translate into prosperity and a better life...think Indonesia and the Philippines Indonesia and Philippines are not considered truly democratic according to anyone vaguely educated in political theory.
There's no democracy in a military coup, and stop that mental trainspotting for awhile and start by looking and actually understanding what people are talking about.