Do you agree that Newspapers, TV, Radio are very powerful?
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Can you imagine that the whole speakers corner sgforums consists only of the mushroom guy and the deer like animal and others?
Surely the truth will never come out right?
Surely only their perspective will be pushed right?
Yet this is what happens in the newspapers, radio and TV
That is why the dishonorable people that takes even more public money for even more luxuries and does not hold themselves accountable for SHIN CORPS failures and UNSW failures..... can get away with wayang wayang like give away GST offset instead of not increasing GST.
They can complain about people sick people using class C wards in hospital while they have no qualms taking public money for themselves.
So be careful what you read and hear in the "Newspapers, TV and Radio.
Be a Smart Singaporean, think for yourself and call the "bluff"
How can Singapore have a non partisan, unbiased mass media? -
its the people who are controlling the media who are powerful dude.
Call their bluff? how? Everything they do, they have "justification". But i like the way the CASE chairman shoot the NETS issue. "Does that mean a toyota must cost the same as a Lexus to stay competitive?" -
Every nation have their dirty spot to keep out of sight.
Every government has a blemish they keep it classified.
Every organisation has an agenda that is in flight.
Every group protects it until you no fight. -
The "Newspapers, TV and Radio" are very powerful in its ability to delude, create illusions and change people's perspectives to serve the needs of the people behind it.
The people behind the mass media are powerful because the media is very powerful tool.
People should be discriminating with the information that is provided by the mass media - it is "skewed" at best.
Forums are better, you get to see all viewpoints and can make up your own mind.
Forums are not as powerful as mass media because forums reach less people. -
This is exactly what the govt wants us think.Originally posted by Bontakun:Every nation have their dirty spot to keep out of sight.
Every government has a blemish they keep it classified.
Every organisation has an agenda that is in flight.
Every group protects it until you no fight.
An induced condition of "learned helplessness"
The "Aiyah, what can we do?" syndrome, so ideally no one will try to resist.
But I digress, back to the topic at hand, yes, all forms of mainstream media is very powerful, which is why none of it in Singapore is fully indepenedent.
In fact almost everything that translates to power is Govt link one way or another.
All Telecommunications companys have links to GLCs. Almost all mass public transportations have links to GLCs or Family members of the ruling party. -
Obviously internet forums are one way to address this undesirable situation... but how can it be more effective?
Will Singaporeans attach alternative views in emails to their friends and colleagues?
Newspapers, TV and Radio are powerful because they are "push" media.
Internet at the moment is "pull" media.
In order to make a difference, the alternative views need push media like emails.
I wonder why the opposition parties do not push their messages out through the internet? Maybe some of you are from the opposition and can answer this question. -
You guys ever pondered the purpose of such invention of such items? Papers, Press, Radio, Television, Internet...
Their original purpose (now still not changed) is to promote propaganda to the mass. -
just liek the bibleOriginally posted by Bontakun:You guys ever pondered the purpose of such invention of such items? Papers, Press, Radio, Television, Internet...
Their original purpose (now still not changed) is to promote propaganda to the mass. -
Yes but when there is free press, all sides will "sell" their propaganda instead of this situation where only one side sells its side of the story.Originally posted by Bontakun:You guys ever pondered the purpose of such invention of such items? Papers, Press, Radio, Television, Internet...
Their original purpose (now still not changed) is to promote propaganda to the mass.
You can see the effect among students and workers in Singapore. It is a dumb down of the masses. They have lost their ability to "think" in a critical manner.
While not being able to think in a critical manner is of little consequences in everyday situation, when it comes to higher level thinking for achievement in the arts and sciences.... Singapore lose out.
Singaporeans, if they want to achieve high standards in thinking, arts and sciences, have to migrate to be among free people.... or ensure that Singapore is a free country.
Unfortunately for Singapore and Singaporeans we have a chief dictator in power that puts himself, his son and daughter in law and his cronies first instead of the interests of the country first. -
Don't change the subject.Originally posted by Omniknight:just liek the bibleOriginally posted by AndrewPKYap:Yes but when there is free press, all sides will "sell" their propaganda instead of this situation where only one side sells its side of the story.
You can see the effect among students and workers in Singapore. It is a dumb down of the masses. They have lost their ability to "think" in a critical manner.
While not being able to think in a critical manner is of little consequences in everyday situation, when it comes to higher level thinking for achievement in the arts and sciences.... Singapore lose out.
Singaporeans, if they want to achieve high standards in thinking, arts and sciences, have to migrate to be among free people.... or ensure that Singapore is a free country.
Unfortunately for Singapore and Singaporeans we have a chief dictator in power that puts himself, his son and daughter in law and his cronies first instead of the interests of the country first. -
Think the govt wants to implement more stringent anti-spam laws, don't know what impact it will have on using e-mails.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:Obviously internet forums are one way to address this undesirable situation... but how can it be more effective?
Will Singaporeans attach alternative views in emails to their friends and colleagues?
Newspapers, TV and Radio are powerful because they are "push" media.
Internet at the moment is "pull" media.
In order to make a difference, the alternative views need push media like emails.
I wonder why the opposition parties do not push their messages out through the internet? Maybe some of you are from the opposition and can answer this question.
Distribution of party newsletters is no longer allowed I think (think I read somewhere)
I have toyed with this question.. I think alternative views have to be pushed gradually until like year 2009, then start a masssive push, so that the information will be relatively fresh in the minds of voters... again I digress (bad habit I know) -
Many people in the world just simply want to live a peaceful life. Even if it means having a 'questionable' government body who still does a good job in governing the nation. They just do not question or do not bother to.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:Yes but when there is free press, all sides will "sell" their propaganda instead of this situation where only one side sells its side of the story.
You can see the effect among students and workers in Singapore. It is a dumb down of the masses. They have lost their ability to "think" in a critical manner.
While not being able to think in a critical manner is of little consequences in everyday situation, when it comes to higher level thinking for achievement in the arts and sciences.... Singapore lose out.
Singaporeans, if they want to achieve high standards in thinking, arts and sciences, have to migrate to be among free people.... or ensure that Singapore is a free country.
Unfortunately for Singapore and Singaporeans we have a chief dictator in power that puts himself, his son and daughter in law and his cronies first instead of the interests of the country first.
Until the stage of 'physiology and security' is met will then the next stage of belongingness and love begins. Check Maslow's hierachy of needs".
I think we are now somewhere between 'belongingness' and 'cognitive' stage where 'identity' is one of the main topics and our role in the world. -
media imperialism.
'nuff said.
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The anti-spam laws - even the spokesman agree, is ineffective when originating from overseas.Originally posted by Jontst78:Think the govt wants to implement more stringent anti-spam laws, don't know what impact it will have on using e-mails.
Distribution of party newsletters is no longer allowed I think (think I read somewhere)
I have toyed with this question.. I think alternative views have to be pushed gradually until like year 2009, then start a masssive push, so that the information will be relatively fresh in the minds of voters... again I digress (bad habit I know)
Like the U-tube political postings.
It is against so many "laws" in Singapore but can they do anything about it?
I think the opposition needs to employ an IT consultant to help them. I am an IT consultant as well as a writer in case you don't know.
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The days where Information/Knowledge is Power is over and the life of Singaporeans are no longer driven by local media because we read internet news, watch cable news, we travel, we coexist with foreigners, and we read foreign magazine.
I think this is just another propaganda thread which will only lead to 1 thing, ie.
those who speaks against the government are "hero", while those who speaks against these "hero" are zero. -
This population is not entirely internet literate yet.
There are a lot out there who use email to communicate but do not surf the internet for alternative info.
At least another 30 years before the entire population becomes educated enough towards the internet.
However, even till then, with the party's grip on all civil service and uniformed forces, it isn't easy to dislodge them. -
You are forgetting one thing and that is, imagine that no one ever stands up and complain about dishonorable behavior by dishonorable people.Originally posted by Bontakun:Many people in the world just simply want to live a peaceful life. Even if it means having a 'questionable' government body who still does a good job in governing the nation. They just do not question or do not bother to.
Until the stage of 'physiology and security' is met will then the next stage of belongingness and love begins. Check Maslow's hierachy of needs".
I think we are now somewhere between 'belongingness' and 'cognitive' stage where 'identity' is one of the main topics and our role in the world.
TT Durai will continue to happily draw his peanut salary at the expense of the kidney patients.
The dishonorable people will continue to increase their million dollars salaries and at the same time continue to complain about people choosing class C wards.
So if nobody stands up and be counted. Nobody stands up and criticize (and in Singapore, that can be very costly) the situation can only get worse.
So people like CSJ and JBJ... (slimed by the press) ..........while you think that they have done nothing... think again.
The dictators, given a completely free hand would have turned this country into an even more stressful place to live by taking even more of Singaporeans' money.
Knowing that CSJ and JBJ is there to scream at them would have held back their hand a little... if there is stronger opposition, it might even reverse the situation and Singapore in reality becomes a better place for all instead of becoming a better place for some at the expense of the majority.
Think, less luxuries for the dictators and more class C wards for all. -
So have you offered you services to any of our opp parties?Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:I think the opposition needs to employ an IT consultant to help them. I am an IT consultant as well as a writer in case you don't know. -
That is why the opposition must take the initiative and push the alternative views out. Most people communicate through emails and thus is would be effective to "push" it out to those people.Originally posted by Rock^Star:This population is not entirely internet literate yet.
There are a lot out there who use email to communicate but do not surf the internet for alternative info.
At least another 30 years before the entire population becomes educated enough towards the internet.
However, even till then, with the party's grip on all civil service and uniformed forces, it isn't easy to dislodge them.
Yet I do not see the opposition doing that, pushing out their message. I even get emails from Fa Lun Kung people regarding the arrests of their members in Singapore. I have yet to receive an email form any of the opposition parties.
Another problem is the lack of good writers.
You might have very good points but you write poorly, the message gets "lost" -
I would rather those Singapore to continue with local media instead of coming to speakers corner to read about all the BS contributed by super computer hero who have no identity, responsibility and accountability of what they said.Originally posted by Rock^Star:This population is not entirely internet literate yet.
There are a lot out there who use email to communicate but do not surf the internet for alternative info.
At least another 30 years before the entire population becomes educated enough towards the internet.
However, even till then, with the party's grip on all civil service and uniformed forces, it isn't easy to dislodge them. -
hahaha if they offer me a job (and pay me) I might consider but I am not into politics as in running for office...Originally posted by Rock^Star:So have you offered you services to any of our opp parties?
I am not so much into replacing the Government as much as trying to criticize them for every "sin" they commit so hopefully they "repent" and see the "errors of their ways"
Of course if there are more opposition in parliament, that would be good.
If the opposition is in power, I will be there to criticize them as well. -
Since you are so active in this forum and so knowledgeable about the political scene in Singapore why dont you start your own opposition campaign and mass mailing to Sigapore on your throught about the government and its policy. I am sure many of anti pap supporter in this forum will support you.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:That is why the opposition must take the initiative and push the alternative views out. Most people communicate through emails and thus is would be effective to "push" it out to those people.
Yet I do not see the opposition doing that, pushing out their message. I even get emails from Fa Lun Kung people regarding the arrests of their members in Singapore. I have yet to receive an email form any of the opposition parties.
Another problem is the lack of good writers.
You might have very good points but you write poorly, the message gets "lost"
PAP is People's ACTION Party, hence I hope you will not call yourself the PTP People's Talk-Only Party -
The few who are aware and tried to expose the ugly side of the governing and such (Durai case for example) are those who seek the truth and justice. The sad (or good?) thing is that, most of the citizens do not have the same curiousity or fervor in seeking the truth.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:You are forgetting one thing and that is, imagine that no one ever stands up and complain about dishonorable behavior by dishonorable people.
TT Durai will continue to happily draw his peanut salary at the expense of the kidney patients.
The dishonorable people will continue to increase their million dollars salaries and at the same time continue to complain about people choosing class C wards.
So if nobody stands up and be counted. Nobody stands up and criticize (and in Singapore, that can be very costly) the situation can only get worse.
So people like CSJ and JBJ... (slimed by the press) ..........while you think that they have done nothing... think again.
The dictators, given a completely free hand would have turned this country into an even more stressful place to live by taking even more of Singaporeans' money.
Knowing that CSJ and JBJ is there to scream at them would have held back their hand a little... if there is stronger opposition, it might even reverse the situation and Singapore in reality becomes a better place for all instead of becoming a better place for some at the expense of the majority.
Think, less luxuries for the dictators and more class C wards for all.
I used to put this in my siggy in the past: 'There are ALL kinds of people in the world'. How true that sentence is as we need a few people willing to take a step forward or sacrifice to educate the masses. How true it is that there are people like Durai. How true it is there are incompetent people in the higher rankings.
Actually, I am glad for those few who are out to seek the truth. This way we can see the picture even clearer. The thing is: I am one who do not want to be involved in any political issues. Too much of a hassle. I am more concerned with the path in which humanity treads, the enviornment and our future together.
Call me lazy or crazy. I am not bothered with nations, governance and their deep dark secrets. Governance WILL change hands, whether they like it or not. -
There must be a reason why opp parties do not push their agenda through emails.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:That is why the opposition must take the initiative and push the alternative views out. Most people communicate through emails and thus is would be effective to "push" it out to those people.
Yet I do not see the opposition doing that, pushing out their message. I even get emails from Fa Lun Kung people regarding the arrests of their members in Singapore. I have yet to receive an email form any of the opposition parties.
Another problem is the lack of good writers.
You might have very good points but you write poorly, the message gets "lost"
They must also do more house visits, instead of only appearing near elections. One major problem is that they cannot hold public speeches for the masses. Oh well, technically they can but a permit is required and no guesses on whether the authorities shall approve it or not.
It's been more than a year since the elections and I have not passively heard any movement of significance from the opp parties.
MORE MUST BE DONE!! -
That is your prerogative.Originally posted by Gazelle:I would rather those Singapore to continue with local media instead of coming to speakers corner to read about all the BS contributed by super computer hero who have no identity, responsibility and accountability of what they said.
Speaker's Corner is BS? Well, some but not all. ST is worse, isn't it? BS with the word "skew".