All out to defame our governement
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this shows how much we feel about this topic.
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Seriously, forgive Gazelle, it's not intentional, he has a comprehension disability. As can be seen from his other topic "wooing the super-rich", after afew replies, he will start forming new statements from your replies and claim that it is what you said. Pity atobe, snow leopard and soul_rage.Originally posted by Rock^Star:You really have got to read carefully before you post.
This was what I posted: "That was the past but the climate of fear has continued its legacy till today. "
I said the ISD saga is the past (where ordinary citizens are concerned, not those who make their dissident views public) but the climate of fear still goes on. Link that to my later comment of numbering the voting slips. Also refer to the part where civil servants and members of uniformed forces are obliged to vote for the hand that feeds them. -
There are two kinds of people in the world, those that make things happen and those that sit around to wait for things to happen.Originally posted by january:i personally think that many middle workers attitude is to complain against government policies.
i think its a kind of due to narrow mindedness.
i for one come from middle income family, a little poor in fact, and i am going to be a get a salaried job, nowhere near rich .
however, i do not focus on things are getting costlier and therefore government is cheating our money again attitude.its due to the degree of initial preconception towards the government.
I take self accountability to get rich and dun like to waste my time complaining policies. It always seems that it is human nature to think that government is doing the wrong thing again instead of also taking account of government progress.
government makes mistakes too. Which government does not. It is common fo citizens to jump onto mistakes and start creating a scene again.
I think this complaining and think that government has corked up again attitude is not going to changed in people's talking or in the internet.
in the end, people blame others because its convininet and you do not have to doubt your self worth becaues you are in the right and others is wrong. It is this reason that you see a lot of people blaming the goverment.
Government is indeed the most popular word to point finger to in any soicety.
i feel sorry for the word.
You belong to the latter.
If there is an earthquake, you will probably say, "nah, it's god's will, we are fated to die". Whereas there are others who would investigate the cause of the quake and how best to minimise it's effects. You belong to those African tribes, when it rains, they will say it's god's will, not knowing the water cycle. Contentment is indeed bliss. -
Also refer to the part where civil servants and members of uniformed forces are obliged to vote for the hand that feeds them.
Vote for the hands that feeds them... very interesting.. but whos' hands are actually feeding them? the gahmen? and who feeds the gahmen? isn't it the people?
Its the people that forms a gahmen, not the other way round, unfortunately, in s'pore, the men in white thinks otherwise.. it looks more like they are the ones who think they form the 'base of people' in tis country..
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I think you are just a under 16 year old kid who hasn't seen the world yet. Live another 10-20 years before forming an opinion about the government.Originally posted by january:The first thing people do is to complain government decision. They only think of their perspective and dun try to ask why the government do things in a certain ways.
with such biasness, people will of course find that government is cheating our money away all the time.
Middle class finds that minister pays are unfiarly higher than theirs and complain. If that is a problem, then go and become a minister yourself so that you will not have low pay.
If you fail to be a minister , then that is your situation. why are you complaining that your pay is low?
if you think minister pay is good, why do you be a engineer, a cleaner or employee.
There are also rich directors, entrepreneurs, footballers and hawker sellers. there are so many rich people of different careers, why dun you try to become one of them instead of complaining that minister are cheating own money again.
the point about complainers is that they dun take accountability of their own actions. they just shift 80% of blame to others except themselves.
From your post, "where to buy skateboard that is not expensive??" and "where to buy and learn electronic keyboard?", proves that you are just a kiddo.
For a person who has trouble buying a skateboard and electronic keyboard, you wouldn't have too many reasonable opinions of our government.
Kids are the easiest to brainwash in schools.
I wonder how many forumers felt strange after talking to a under 16 y.o. about politics?
So are you a capricorn or an aquarius? -
strange? we do SS in skool too. don't have to take what they dish out wan. can see with own eyes and think with own brain wan.Originally posted by maurizio13:I think you are just a under 16 year old kid who hasn't seen the world yet. Live another 10-20 years before forming an opinion about the government.
From your post, "where bo buy skateboard that is not expensive??" and "where to buy and learn electronic keyboard?", proves that you are just a kiddo.
For a person who has trouble buying a skateboard and electronic keyboard, you wouldn't have too many reasonable opinions of our government.
Kids are the easiest to brainwash in schools.
I wonder how many forumers felt strange after talking to a under 16 y.o. about politics?
So are you a capricorn or an aquarius? -
And now the PAP are targeting the JCs and the polys students ... They came to my sch 3 weeks ago for a ministers' pay raise forum ...Originally posted by maurizio13:I think you are just a under 16 year old kid who hasn't seen the world yet. Live another 10-20 years before forming an opinion about the government.
From your post, "where bo buy skateboard that is not expensive??" and "where to buy and learn electronic keyboard?", proves that you are just a kiddo.
For a person who has trouble buying a skateboard and electronic keyboard, you wouldn't have too many reasonable opinions of our government.
Kids are the easiest to brainwash in schools.
I wonder how many forumers felt strange after talking to a under 16 y.o. about politics?
So are you a capricorn or an aquarius? -
Kids may be the easiest to brainwash, but some do know more than others.Originally posted by maurizio13:I think you are just a under 16 year old kid who hasn't seen the world yet. Live another 10-20 years before forming an opinion about the government.
From your post, "where bo buy skateboard that is not expensive??" and "where to buy and learn electronic keyboard?", proves that you are just a kiddo.
For a person who has trouble buying a skateboard and electronic keyboard, you wouldn't have too many reasonable opinions of our government.
Kids are the easiest to brainwash in schools.
I wonder how many forumers felt strange after talking to a under 16 y.o. about politics?
So are you a capricorn or an aquarius?
Well, minority anyway. -
total waste of time as it has been finalisedOriginally posted by Trump_Card:And now the PAP are targeting the JCs and the polys students ... They came to my sch 3 weeks ago for a ministers' pay raise forum ... -
Not in my opinion, kids that age have not been exposed to the working world, they don't really know how society works. There might be the odd few that knows, but it's rare. Kids that are are more concerned with having fun and absorbing whatever the teacher tells them.Originally posted by LinYu:strange? we do SS in skool too. don't have to take what they dish out wan. can see with own eyes and think with own brain wan.
Was helping my friend with a report concerning education, it's interesting to note that there could be invisible government propaganda embedded in the schools curriculum.
I was a staunch PAP supporter in the past, that was before I step into the working world for a few years. -
Ya ... this goes to show that they are alrdy acting out their agenda ...Originally posted by LinYu:total waste of time as it has been finalised -
I think RP is fair enough...Originally posted by Trump_Card:And now the PAP are targeting the JCs and the polys students ... They came to my sch 3 weeks ago for a ministers' pay raise forum ...
WP has came to RP before... last year.
This year is PAP... though I have to say, hearing her tell us the same old reason again.... is boring. -
I guess the next party to come to RP will be RP ... I mean the Reform Party ...Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:I think RP is fair enough...
WP has came to RP before... last year.
This year is PAP... though I have to say, hearing her tell us the same old reason again.... is boring.
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Invisible government propaganda? As in?Originally posted by maurizio13:Not in my opinion, kids that age have not been exposed to the working world, they don't really know how society works. There might be the odd few that knows, but it's rare. Kids that are are more concerned with having fun and absorbing whatever the teacher tells them.
Was helping my friend with a report concerning education, it's interesting to note that there could be invisible government propaganda embedded in the schools curriculum. -
Hopefully, but not in this 4 years.Originally posted by Trump_Card:I guess the next party to come to RP will be RP ... I mean the Reform Party ... -
"there could be invisible government propaganda"Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Invisible government propaganda? As in?
During my days, there wasn't so much propaganda. Only the occasional praise by the teachers of the government, yada yada yada.......
Not sure of the current school curriculum now. -
While we are arguing here, the ministers will still take their undeserved pays and laugh at us in e comfort of their houses.
"What are these naive people doing in e sgforum?" said one of them.
"Well they know we P*P will just f*ck care what Singaporeans say. They can complain all they want but we still get our pay haha. Only what P*P say is right. All e others are just bull-shit." another said. -
Oh... My mistake.Originally posted by maurizio13:"there could be invisible government propaganda"
During my days, there wasn't so much propaganda. Only the occasional praise by the teachers of the government, yada yada yada.......
Not sure of the current school curriculum now.
Current curriculum... not sure... but if you say about influencing secondary school students, perhaps.
Just go to any Popular bookshops and read the Social Studies textbooks... -
The social studies n local history curriculum whitewashes a lot of our full history out. It's a very slanted take on how Singapore prospered. When you read History in NUS, the first thing you are told is to forget whatever you were taught in sec school, for it is mostly BS.Originally posted by maurizio13:Not in my opinion, kids that age have not been exposed to the working world, they don't really know how society works. There might be the odd few that knows, but it's rare. Kids that are are more concerned with having fun and absorbing whatever the teacher tells them.
Was helping my friend with a report concerning education, it's interesting to note that there could be invisible government propaganda embedded in the schools curriculum.
I was a staunch PAP supporter in the past, that was before I step into the working world for a few years. -
Then maybe they should rename the subject taught in sec. sch 'selective history' ...Originally posted by LazerLordz:The social studies n local history curriculum whitewashes a lot of our full history out. It's a very slanted take on how Singapore prospered. When you read History in NUS, the first thing you are told is to forget whatever you were taught in sec school, for it is mostly BS. -
Slanted as it is, there are bits and pieces of how Singapore prospered.Originally posted by LazerLordz:The social studies n local history curriculum whitewashes a lot of our full history out. It's a very slanted take on how Singapore prospered. When you read History in NUS, the first thing you are told is to forget whatever you were taught in sec school, for it is mostly BS.
Just bits and pieces here and there. Enough to know, not enough to create an impression on the kids. -
Thats a LKY Quote, he really said something like it.Originally posted by Spartans:"Well they know we P*P will just f*ck care what Singaporeans say. They can complain all they want but we still get our pay haha. Only what P*P say is right. All e others are just bull-shit." another said.
Forgot which year:
"We decide what is right, never mind what the people think. That is another problem" -
me 25Originally posted by maurizio13:I think you are just a under 16 year old kid who hasn't seen the world yet. Live another 10-20 years before forming an opinion about the government.
From your post, "where to buy skateboard that is not expensive??" and "where to buy and learn electronic keyboard?", proves that you are just a kiddo.
For a person who has trouble buying a skateboard and electronic keyboard, you wouldn't have too many reasonable opinions of our government.
Kids are the easiest to brainwash in schools.
I wonder how many forumers felt strange after talking to a under 16 y.o. about politics?
So are you a capricorn or an aquarius? -
Abstract from UNESCO's International Bureau of Education:Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Slanted as it is, there are bits and pieces of how Singapore prospered.
Just bits and pieces here and there. Enough to know, not enough to create an impression on the kids.
It is also well to remember that notions about the ‘nation-building’ role of education may predispose governments to use the education system and the curriculum as instruments of government propaganda to foster obedience, curtail dissent and enlist popular support for the state’s own political and socio-economic programmes. And here I am not referring only to so-called authoritarian and communist states, but even to freer democratic states who are not beyond similarly using the curriculum and the education system to promote certain political agendas and interests. Again, we should note that the uncritical acceptance of the nation/state-building function of education is likely to run counter to the human rights and social democracy movements that are expected to gain more acceptance in the twenty-first century.
Just because it's in bits and pieces doesn't mean that it doesn't form an impression on the kids.