MALAYSIA to get more weapons.
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quote from u:
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As all of you guys might have know-RMAF has been cleared to take delivery 18 FA-18F armed with AIM 9,AMRAAM,JSOW,JDAM,SLAM-ER,HARPOON etc(plslah double check with relevant and credible source before you guys start that stupid and immature comments of yours)
It is most likely the deal will be announced after the PM table the 2003 budget which may see a sharp incline in the defence budget.Apart from that -another sqn of 18-24 SU 30MKM will be purchased in order to equipped 2 sqn of MRCA.Chief of RMAF has outlined that the air force will need to operational sqn of the multi role fighters.
4 EMB145 ERIEYE AEW&C from Brazil also will be purchased in order to further increase RMAF effectiveness in multi spectrum air combat scenarios.The defence minister has been briefed about the a/c during his visit to Brazil last year and days ago a high power delegations from Brazil held a special session for the Malaysian govt and industries officials.
During the last national day parade it is interesting to noted that FA18D made a flypast and i mean all 8 of them(to proved that RMAF has a high readiness rate)+9 Hawks and 6 MIG 29N/NUB from the 17 sqn OCU.19 sqn MIG 29N (total of 11) were put on a standby and did not took part in the flypast.MLRS,G5,ADNAN AIFV etc also took part that day.
2 of the MEKO A100 stealth NGPV(read corvette)are to be delivered within months as they are going weapons trials now somewhere near the NDSB shipyards in Lumut.NDSB are believed to have installed MM40 ITL 72 and VLSEASPARROW (16 silo) for the weapons trials purposes.The next batch of 4 will be built 100 percent in Malaysia and the next batch of 6(2005 onwards)will be a dedicated AAW warfare corvettes.
Immature comments are most welcome
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HELLOOO!!!!!!! black n white pls.......viper52 state b4 wat is cleared n bought the weapon difference.........we need to c e black n white contract........then we can talk..... -
Heres more on the Shitty...err...Super Hornet deal...This comes straight from the US DoD, and I'll believe it more than what Pussycat...err...Harimau said...personal comments at the end of the messge...
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http://www.defense-aerospace.com/data/communiques/data/2002Sep11937/index.htm
(Source: US Defense Security Cooperation Agency ; dated Sept. 4 web posted Sept.5, 2002)
On 4 September, the Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress of a possible Foreign Military Sale to Malaysia of F/A-18F aircraft as well as associated equipment and services. The total value, if all options are exercised, could be as high as $1,483 million.
The Government of Malaysia has requested a possible sale of 18 F/A-18F aircraft with 36 F414-GE-400 aircraft engines, 18 AN/APG-73 Radar Systems, 3 spare F414-GE-400 aircraft engines, 18 AN/ALR-67(V)3 Countermeasure Receiving Sets, 18 AN/ALE-47(B)2 Countermeasure Dispensing Sets, 12 AN/ALQ-214(V)2 Integrated Defensive Electronic Countermeasures, 72 LAU-127B/A Guided Missile Launchers, spare and repair parts, support and test equipment, supply support, U.S. Government and contractor technical and logistics personnel services, publications/technical data, personnel training and training equipment, system software development and other related elements of logistics to ensure complete program support.
The estimated cost is $1,483 million.
This sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a friendly country which has been and continues to be an important force for economic progress in Southeast Asia.
The proposed sale of F/A-18 aircraft will increase MalaysiaÂ’s tactical aviation capabilities. An increase in capability will be accrued primarily due to the larger number of aircraft and the larger range and endurance of the F/A-18F. The commonality of this system with those in the U.S. Navy will yield lower costs for the U.S. in procurement of the F/A-18E/F and provide potential key support assets in South East Asia.
The sale of this equipment and support will not affect the basic military balance in the region.
The principal contractors will be: The Boeing Company in St. Louis, Missouri; North Grumman in El Segundo, California; General Electric of Lynn, Massachusetts; and Raytheon Company of El Segundo, California. One or more proposed offset agreements may be related to this proposed sale.
Implementation of this sale will require approximately 8 contractor representatives to provide technical and logistics support in Malaysia for two years. U.S. Government and contractor representatives will also participate in program management and technical reviews for one-week intervals twice semi-annually.
There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.
This notice of a potential sale is required by law; it does not mean that the sale has been concluded.
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Note: Last line: NOTHING CONFIRMED YET...ie Pussycats shooting his mouth off again
Note2: AN/APG-73? F***!...thats not even the latest radar on the Super Hornet. No AESA...nothing! The Aussies have had -73s on their Bugs for yonks! And its the same set on the RMAF D-bugs....Sounds like RMAF is gonna get shafted by the Yanks!
Conclusion: Pussycats making himself look like a P***y AGAIN.... -
so mr harimau loser, which bionic eye of yours saw JSOW ....etcOriginally posted by Viper52:Heres more on the Shitty...err...Super Hornet deal...This comes straight from the US DoD, and I'll believe it more than what Pussycat...err...Harimau said...personal comments at the end of the messge...
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http://www.defense-aerospace.com/data/communiques/data/2002Sep11937/index.htm
(Source: US Defense Security Cooperation Agency ; dated Sept. 4 web posted Sept.5, 2002)
On 4 September, the Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress of a possible Foreign Military Sale to Malaysia of F/A-18F aircraft as well as associated equipment and services. The total value, if all options are exercised, could be as high as $1,483 million.
The Government of Malaysia has requested a possible sale of 18 F/A-18F aircraft with 36 F414-GE-400 aircraft engines, 18 AN/APG-73 Radar Systems, 3 spare F414-GE-400 aircraft engines, 18 AN/ALR-67(V)3 Countermeasure Receiving Sets, 18 AN/ALE-47(B)2 Countermeasure Dispensing Sets, 12 AN/ALQ-214(V)2 Integrated Defensive Electronic Countermeasures, 72 LAU-127B/A Guided Missile Launchers, spare and repair parts, support and test equipment, supply support, U.S. Government and contractor technical and logistics personnel services, publications/technical data, personnel training and training equipment, system software development and other related elements of logistics to ensure complete program support.
The estimated cost is $1,483 million.
This sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a friendly country which has been and continues to be an important force for economic progress in Southeast Asia.
The proposed sale of F/A-18 aircraft will increase MalaysiaÂ’s tactical aviation capabilities. An increase in capability will be accrued primarily due to the larger number of aircraft and the larger range and endurance of the F/A-18F. The commonality of this system with those in the U.S. Navy will yield lower costs for the U.S. in procurement of the F/A-18E/F and provide potential key support assets in South East Asia.
The sale of this equipment and support will not affect the basic military balance in the region.
The principal contractors will be: The Boeing Company in St. Louis, Missouri; North Grumman in El Segundo, California; General Electric of Lynn, Massachusetts; and Raytheon Company of El Segundo, California. One or more proposed offset agreements may be related to this proposed sale.
Implementation of this sale will require approximately 8 contractor representatives to provide technical and logistics support in Malaysia for two years. U.S. Government and contractor representatives will also participate in program management and technical reviews for one-week intervals twice semi-annually.
There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.
This notice of a potential sale is required by law; it does not mean that the sale has been concluded.
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Note: Last line: NOTHING CONFIRMED YET...ie Pussycats shooting his mouth off again
Note2: AN/APG-73? F***!...thats not even the latest radar on the Super Hornet. No AESA...nothing! The Aussies have had -73s on their Bugs for yonks! And its the same set on the RMAF D-bugs....Sounds like RMAF is gonna get shafted by the Yanks!
Conclusion: Pussycats making himself look like a P***y AGAIN.... -
Solaris,have we met before???Originally posted by solaris:hello harimau
I would like to seek some clarification
1. Could you please list the website where you get the information from regarding the purchase especially the clearance on the aquisition of the missiles such as AMRAAM and SLAM - ER. I am interested in finding out more about the MAF expansion. A distinction should be made between being cleared to acquire the weapons as stated and actually acquiring them. A example is the Malaysian submarine purchase. There has been statements that RMN is planning to acquire submarines over the years but it is only recently that subs were acquired. My point is that Malaysia track record of weapon acquisition often indicate a significant time lag between statement of intent and the actual signing of contract. What you posted only tells us that Malaysia has an interest in or is cleared to purchase certain weapons but did not say that they have been purchased. I believed the FA 18 part but i have some doubts about the JSOW and SLAM ER part.
2. It is an interesting contrasts between the SAF and MAF modernisation program. The MAF upgrades in spurts while the SAF prefers a gradual systematic approach.
A balance have to be achieved between force transformation and force readiness. There is only so much defence budget. Should your defence budget be mostly allocated to force transformation, you run the risk that due to lack of significant finances, force readiness may be compromised. Such a massive one time expenditure would also means that the defence spending will have to be toned down over the next few years and the implication would be that force technology currency might suffer due to non upgrade.
Would harimau comment on the combat readiness of MAF?
Singaporeans should be concerned about the MAF modernisation but they should also bear in mind the implication of such programs on other aspect of MAF. Personally i prefer the SAF method. It provide a finer balance between the 2 aspects i mentioned above
3. We should respond to Harimau post in a mature dignified manner and should not stoop to the virulence of some of his post.
Harimau - a personal opinion on you. I think the malaysian malays have an inherent tendency to let their nationalism and ethnic egotism get into your judgement and thinking. The difference in the histronic level between the different language newspaper in Malaysia is an interesting insight into how the different races in your country think. I would like an opinion on something
If Jeyakumar went to KL for the next round of bilateral talks and ask for long postponement of meetings, refuse to attend the lunch that has been prepared by your ministry of foreign affairs, change their agenda totally, what would your opinion of him be? The only consistency I see in Malaysian foreign affairs is inconsistency
My sole intention -about MAF news and stuffs -simply to rectified some inaccuracies posted by most of the members of the boards regarding Malaysia defence posture and planning.
It is nice to be able to discuss things with those who really knows what's CBM is all about.
Not all of strategic and geopolitic procurement could be posted or found on the net. -
[quote]Originally posted by HARIMAU:
"My sole intention -about MAF news and stuffs -simply to rectified some inaccuracies posted by most of the members of the boards regarding Malaysia defence posture and planning."
With more inaccuracies?
"Not all of strategic and geopolitic procurement could be posted or found on the net"
Then for the sake of your national security, maybe it would be wiser to keep it that way instead of trolling around the internet forums with information you cannot substantiate due to classification.
Its the policy I and a few other members of this board use anyway. We keep all discussions to issues/information in the public domain. Any other information we know about that is not public we keep to ourselves.
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Guys anyone can clarify that was once posted saying French has no problem releasing SCALP stand off missile as part of the offer for any singaporean fighter programme procurement,honestly speakin i have been quite puzzled by this post
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I believe this Package is also once apply to korean F-X project but it seems Korea is more convince having SLAM-ER -
The Korean decision was a political one rather than a technical one. The package Dassualt offered was deemed techincally the best. The American had to applied pressure to get the deal instead of the French because the Americans were deparate to keep the Boeing F-15 plant production going. The French package might have offered Scalp. The Americans in order to appease the Korean for pressuing them to select F-15K threw in Slammer-er as a sweetener.Originally posted by Orcishwarrior:Guys anyone can clarify that was once posted saying French has no problem releasing SCALP stand off missile as part of the offer for any singaporean fighter programme procurement,honestly speakin i have been quite puzzled by this post
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I believe this Package is also once apply to korean F-X project but it seems Korea is more convince having SLAM-ER -
...And then applied political pressure by dint of the "close US-S Korea relationship" to get the Koreans to go the US way...Originally posted by Joe Black:The Korean decision was a political one rather than a technical one. The package Dassualt offered was deemed techincally the best. The American had to applied pressure to get the deal instead of the French because the Americans were deparate to keep the Boeing F-15 plant production going. The French package might have offered Scalp. The Americans in order to appease the Korean for pressuing them to select F-15K threw in Slammer-er as a sweetener.
Nothing illegal there, but still kind of a cheap shot by the Yanks