Dangerous hint: JI arrest is just a distraction?
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This is a very big insult to SG and may creates unrest and distrust among Muslims community.!Some one may not just to blacken PAP name.
S/he may also create unrest among Muslims community unintentionaly.
A damn dangerous move.
May the frens of SDP and JSC pl talk to them RIGHT NOW!!
SG cant afford to play this kind of game.
This article in SDP web site claim the recent arrest of JI is just to distract people from many problems PAP government she faces.
is it not inconceivable for the PAP to be banging political pots and pans so that people will look the other way?....
Does this article represent the views and authorized by The Central Executive Committee of SDP?--http://www.singaporedemocrat.org/articleisa_terrorism1.html
Title:JI arrests, Colin Powell and LeeÂ’s ISA,11 Jun 07
Pl note they or he dare not put the author/s name/s there.
2.It hinted PAP has for many years adpoted ISA wrongly to detain
opposition parties ,including the recent arrest!!....Declassified papers by the British government show – irrefutably – that Mr Lee Kuan Yew used the ISA not for security reasons but rather to crush opposition leaders like the late Lim Chin Siong and other Barisan Sosialis leaders in the 1960s...
3.I will be angry and disappointed if MHA do not respond in three
Back to the current arrests of these five terrorist suspects (there are already 34 others in custody). Why the present detentions and why now? For one thing, it would attract little condemnation from the international community especially when the United States government is doing the same. ..........
With the recent pummeling the Government is getting over the inexcusable raising of the GST and other fees, the grubby ministerial pay hike, and the embarrassing business failures of Shin Corp et al, is it not inconceivable for the PAP to be banging political pots and pans so that people will look the other way?....
hours.May the monitors pl report to boss right now?
4.There are big differences bewteen opinons and insults/defamation.
This may creates unrest and distrust among Muslims community. -
Er.. Lionnoisy... which part of SDP's article actually says that Muslims are not to be trusted?
And Lionnoisy, the Govt has used the ISA against political opponents before, supported by foreign funds or not. And it was in the newspapers. Do the activists accused of Marxism in the 1980s ring a bell?
And what difference does it make if the authors do not put their names down, when the names of the SDP executive committee are known and they endorsed the article? You do realise that it is a logical fallacy to accuse a person of cowardice in an attempt to discredit his message? -
for records purposes:
posting of SDP as at 2007 hours 12.06.2007:
http://www.singaporedemocrat.org/articleisa_terrorism1.html
JI arrests, Colin Powell and LeeÂ’s ISA
11 Jun 07
The recent arrest of five Singaporeans accused of being Jemaah Islamiyah (JI) terrorists trained in Malaysia met with a little problem: Malaysian authorities rejected the claim.
Malaysia police chief, Mr Musa Hassan, announced today that he had received no reports of JI training camps in his country.
This raises more than a little unease because the intelligence outfits in both countries cooperate closely when in comes to security issues.
It already is a problem when the state, especially the kind constructed by the PAP, claims for itself the power, under the under the Internal Security Act (ISA), to be judge, jury and jailer.
But when the Singapore GovernmentÂ’s claims are refuted by its ally, alarm bells go off as they should because the penalty for such prisoners is hardly trivial, it is indefinite imprisonment.
No one is advocating that terrorist suspects must not be nabbed or that their actions be dealt with lightly. But there is a way of doing this without the government itself resorting to terrorism – its called due process.
Even former US Secretary of State Colin Powell under the Bush administration rejected detention without trial at the Guantanamo prison: "Every morning I pick up a paper and some authoritarian figure, some person somewhere, is using Guantanamo to hide their own misdeeds.
"Â…if it were up to me I would close Guantanamo not tomorrow but this afternoon."
He added that he would not let the terrorists go free, but would move them to the United States instead and "put them into our federal legal system."
Given the PAPÂ’s record of using the ISA to put away opposition members, the continued use of detention without trial must be put under intense scrutiny.
Declassified papers by the British government show – irrefutably – that Mr Lee Kuan Yew used the ISA not for security reasons but rather to crush opposition leaders like the late Lim Chin Siong and other Barisan Sosialis leaders in the 1960s.
In 1962, Malaysian PM Tungku Abdul Rahman said that Lee "was taking advantage of an atmosphere of urgency to include a number of political opponents in lists of [ISA] arrests on purely political grounds."
Then UK Commissioner to Singapore, Lord Selkirk, added: "Lee is probably very much attracted to the idea of destroying his political opponents. It should be remembered that there is behind all this very much a personal aspectÂ…" (This will be the subject of another essay that the Singapore Democrats will publish at a later time.)
In 1987, the Government again resorted to detaining a group of Singaporeans for security reasons because they were (if one can believe the idiocy) violent Marxists who were going to chase out the occupants of a certain palace on Orchard Road.
It should not escape anyone that the PAPÂ’s credibility, when it comes to using the ISA, is in tatters.
Back to the current arrests of these five terrorist suspects (there are already 34 others in custody). Why the present detentions and why now? For one thing, it would attract little condemnation from the international community especially when the United States government is doing the same.
But the situations between the US and us are as similar as chalk and cheese. The former has an independent judiciary more then capable of standing up to the executive (even the military tribunal appointed by President Bush to deal with the Gitmo prisoners acquitted a couple of detainees for want of evidence), a media that remains a vigilant voice, and a strong opposition ready to confront the incumbent.
In Singapore? DonÂ’t get us started.
Second, raising the security bogey to distract the populace is a tried-and-tested tactic of despotic regimes. The PAP is an old hand at this.
With the recent pummeling the Government is getting over the inexcusable raising of the GST and other fees, the grubby ministerial pay hike, and the embarrassing business failures of Shin Corp et al, is it not inconceivable for the PAP to be banging political pots and pans so that people will look the other way?
This does not, of course, mean that the detainees are not militants. To ensure that we disrupt their scheming, let us reiterate what the hard-headed, former US five-star general Colin Powell said: If you have the evidence donÂ’t let them go but put them through the legal system.
In this way, we stop the terrorist activities dead in their tracks while preventing the PAP from detaining without trial innocent Singaporeans.
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Dont be suprised if the terrorists is housed at UMNO or somewhere obvious in Singapore
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The SDP should just shut up and not distract us from the Richard Yong disappearing act.
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There are only two possible meaning of this ugly article.
A.The JI arrested are in fact opposition party.
PAP just used ISA to silent them.
B.The JI arrested are in fact innocent people.
PAP just drag them from street and framed them
up in order to distract people from:..recent pummeling the Government is getting over the inexcusable raising of the GST and other fees, the grubby ministerial pay hike, and the embarrassing business failures of Shin Corp et al, is it not inconceivable for the PAP to be banging political pots and pans so that people will look the other way?
2.There are fault lines between different races.
If some of Muslims community buy this story,
the fault lines wider and
the hates is planted.I think some buy this story.
3.This is the most ugly,mean,under-the-belt,and irresponsible
act of SDP and CSJ I have seen.
4.Few MHA officers shall be retrained if no action taken
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People like the TS only know how to believe the ST and the government and accept things at face value.
If the man is guilty, charge him in court. Nuff said.