Honour Killing:
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Salaam,
A friend sent this to me and i wish to show to everyone here..
Just wish to highlight that honour killin is not condoned in Islam.
LONDON - A father who ordered his daughter brutally slain for falling in love with the wrong man in a so-called "honor killing" was found guilty of murder on Monday.
Banaz Mahmod, 20, was strangled with a boot lace, stuffed into a suitcase and buried in a back garden.
Her death is the latest in an increasing trend of such killings in Britain, home to some 1.8 million Muslims. More than 100 homicides are under investigation as potential "honor killings."
Mahmod Mahmod, 52, and his brother Ari Mahmod, 51, planned the killing during a family meeting, prosecutors told the court. Two others have pleaded guilty in the case. Two more suspects have fled the country. Sentencing is expected later this month.
The men accused the young woman of shaming her family by ending an abusive arranged marriage, becoming too Westernized and falling in love with a man who didn't come from their Iraqi village. The Kurdish family came to Britain in 1998 when Banaz Mahmod was 11.
"She was my present, my future, my hope," said Rahmat Suleimani, 29, Banaz Mahmod's boyfriend.
During the three-month trial, prosecutors said Mahmod's father beat his daughter for using hairspray and adopting other Western ways. Her uncle once told her she would have been "turned to ashes" if she were his daughter and had shamed the family by becoming involved with the Iranian Kurd, her sister 22-year-old Bekhal Mahmod testified.
Banaz Mahmod ran away from home when she was a teenager but returned when her father sent her an audio tape in which he warned he would kill her sisters, her mother and himself if she did not come home, her sister said.
She was later hospitalized after her brother attacked her, the sister told the court. The brother said he had been paid by their father to finish her off but in the end was unable to do it, said the sister, who testified in a full black burqa. She said she still feared for her own life.
The years of Banaz Mahmod's abuse were compounded by police officers who repeatedly dismissed her cries for help.
She first went to police in December 2005, saying she suspected her uncle was trying to kill her and her boyfriend. She sent police a letter naming the men who she thought would later kill her.
On New Year's Eve, she was lured by her father to her grandmother's home, where she suspected he planned to attack her after he forced her to gulp down brandy and approached her while wearing gloves. She escaped by breaking a window and was treated at a hospital.
Police dismissed her suspicions, and one officer, who is under investigation, considered charging her with damages for breaking her grandmother's window.
Laying in her hospital bed after the escape, Mahmod recorded a dramatic video message saying she was "really scared."
The videotape, taken by her boyfriend at the hospital, was shown to the jury during the trial.
After she was released from the hospital, she returned home and tried to convince her family she had stopped seeing her boyfriend.
But friends told the family they spotted the couple together on Jan. 22, 2006.
Soon after, a group of men allegedly approached her boyfriend and tried to lure him into a car but he refused. It was that event that prompted Banaz Mahmod to go to police again. This time officers tried to persuade her to stay in a safe house. She refused, believing that her mother would protect her.
But her mother and father left her alone in the house the next day. Her boyfriend alerted police after time passed in which she failed to send him text messages.
Her body wasn't discovered until three months later after police tracked phone records.
Britain has seen more than 25 women killed by their Muslim relatives in the past decade for offenses they believed brought shame on the family. More than 100 other homicides are under investigation as potential honor killings.
Some Muslim communities in Britain practice Sharia, or strict Islamic law.
"We're seeing an increase around the world, due in part to the rise in Islamic fundamentalism," said Diana Nammi with the London-based Iranian and Kurdish Women's Rights Organization.
It is a cultural thing.
Pls read below.
Just for your information.
Wa`alykum As-Salaamu Warahmatullahi Wabarakaatuh.
In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.
Dear sister in Islam, we do really appreciate your question, which shows how far you are interested in getting yourself well-acquainted with the sound teachings of Islam. May Allah bless your efforts in pursuit of knowledge and may He keep us all firm in the straight path!
Sister, it’s a well-known fact that Islam maintains the protection of life and does not sanction any violation against it. In the Glorious Qur’an, Allah, Most High, says, “Whoso slayeth a believer of set purpose, his reward is Hell for ever. Allah is wroth against him and He hath cursed him and prepared for him an awful doom.” (An-Nisa’: 93)
`Abdullah ibn Mas`ud, may Allah be pleased with him, reported that the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, "The blood of a Muslim may not be legally spilt other than in one of three [instances]: the married person who commits adultery; a life for a life; and one who forsakes his religion and abandons the community." (Reported by Al-Bukhari and Muslim)
Focusing more on your question, Sheikh Ahmad Kutty, a senior lecturer and an Islamic scholar at the Islamic Institute of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, states:
There is no such concept in Islam that is called “honor killing”. Islam holds every soul in high esteem and does not allow any transgression upon it. It does not allow people to take the law in their own hands and administer justice, because doing so will be leading to chaos and lawlessness. Therefore, based on this, Islam does not permit such killings.
First of all, in order to sanction killing, it must be through a binding verdict issued by an authoritative law court. Individuals themselves have no authority either to judge cases or pass judgments. Therefore, a Muslim should not sanction such killing because doing so will be leading to the rule of the law of the jungle. A civilized society cannot be run by such laws.”
Shedding more light on it, Sheikh `Atiyyah Saqr, former head of Al-Azhar Fatwa Committee, states:
“Like all other religions, Islam strictly prohibits murder and killing without legal justification. Allah, Most High, says, “Whoso slayeth a believer of set purpose, his reward is Hell for ever. Allah is wroth against him and He hath cursed him and prepared for him an awful doom.” (An-Nisa’: 93)
The so-called “honor killing” is based on ignorance and disregard of morals and laws, which cannot be abolished except by disciplinary punishments.
It goes without saying that people are not entitled to take the law in their own hands, for it’s the responsibility of the Muslim State and its concerned bodies to maintain peace, security, etc., and to prevent chaos and disorder from creeping into the Muslim society.”
Moreover, the eminent Muslim scholar, Sheikh Muhammad Al-Hanooti, member of the North American Fiqh Council, adds:
“In Islam, there is no place for unjustifiable killing. Even in case of capital punishment, only the government can apply the law through the judicial procedures. No one has the authority to execute the law other than the officers who are in charge.
Honor killing could be a wrong cultural tradition. It is unjust and inhumane action. The murderer of that type deserves punishment.”
Sister, if you are still in need of more information, don't hesitate to contact us. Do keep in touch. May Allah guide us all to the straight path!
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Why this “honour killing” never happens among the non-Muslim Arab families?
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in case you're ignorant on the recent "event" in Iraq, it was similarly performed by the Kurds, and they aren't MuslimOriginally posted by googoomuck:Why this “honour killing” never happens among the non-Muslim Arab families? -
insane....
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Kurds are largely Sunni Muslims.Originally posted by blurberry:in case you're ignorant on the recent "event" in Iraq, it was similarly performed by the Kurds, and they aren't Muslim
Any link of the recent "event' in Iraq? -
what about stoning to death ? .... and beheading ? (sorry, I mean slowly slicing people's head off) ? ...
the latter seems a bit widespread ... you see it everywhere from Iraq to Indonesia to the Phillipines .... -
Using your analogy, does all the Jews practise Judaism? Does all Caucasians Christians?Originally posted by googoomuck:Kurds are largely Sunni Muslims.
Any link of the recent "event' in Iraq?
it helps if you do a proper search
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/05/18/iraq.honorkilling/index.html -
http://www.casperstartribune.net/articles/2004/06/27/news/world/e6710a3e0345547587256ec00002f0d8.txtOriginally posted by Fatum:what about stoning to death ? .... and beheading ? (sorry, I mean slowly slicing people's head off) ? ...
the latter seems a bit widespread ... you see it everywhere from Iraq to Indonesia to the Phillipines ....
enough said....
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Why this “honor killing” never happens among the non-Muslim Arab families?Originally posted by blurberry:Using your analogy, does all the Jews practise Judaism? Does all Caucasians Christians?
it helps if you do a proper search
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/05/18/iraq.honorkilling/index.html -
Zul can be said as a foreigner, the Singapore's Woman's Charter was specifically created to prevent such happenings.
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now if you try to expand your mind wider, you will realize this barbaric practice was done by different kinds of races in ancient times.Originally posted by googoomuck:Why this “honor killing” never happens among the non-Muslim Arab families?
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Oh......you can't answer the question.Originally posted by blurberry:now if you try to expand your mind wider, you will realize this barbaric practice was done by different kinds of races in ancient times.
had already hyperlinked....go figure -
No offence, observing your posts so far you had contributed here, failing to see the wider scope and a bigoted view of a pea-sized brain, is not worth answering to and your queries consigned to the scraps, despite the hyperlinks provided.Originally posted by googoomuck:Oh......you can't answer the question.
Do spend more time reading to satisfy your thirst for knowledge -
Haiz........wrong answer again.Originally posted by blurberry:No offence, observing your posts so far you had contributed here, failing to see the wider scope and a bigoted view of a pea-sized brain, is not worth answering to and your queries consigned to the scraps, despite the hyperlinks provided.
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This is one of the causes of killings in the name of Allah.Originally posted by Zulkiflim:...
`Abdullah ibn Mas`ud, may Allah be pleased with him, reported that the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, "The blood of a Muslim may not be legally spilt other than in one of three [instances]: the married person who commits adultery; a life for a life; and one who forsakes his religion and abandons the community." (Reported by Al-Bukhari and Muslim)
Permissible killings in the Arabic language. Which is subjected to numerous interpretation. Often to suit ones agenda.
Too many times, something is done, and the apologist come out and say it is contrary to Islam.
This post is yet another one.
When will Muslims live in accordance with Islam?
When something is deemed perfect, it means it does not need change.
Islam is irrefutability far from perfect.
This have to be realised before changes for the better can occur.
The first thing that need to be done is to "lift the whip".
And allow inquiry in Islam. No more I-am-the-senior-you-accept-what-I-say-end-of-discussion!
Can Islam withstand close scrutiny and dissection?
What is the fear? -
Oh, we have a lot of Honour Killing going on in Singapore too!
A lot of people were hung for drug related offences, and murder. So it is in a sense Honour Killing too - not in the name of Allah, but PAP...
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Salaam,Originally posted by blurberry:in case you're ignorant on the recent "event" in Iraq, it was similarly performed by the Kurds, and they aren't Muslim
just to correct you,Kurds are Muslim ,they are majority Sunnis.
The US like to define Iraq by Sunni/hia and Kurds which is misleading casue Kurds are Muslim Sunni. -
Salaam,Originally posted by Fatum:what about stoning to death ? .... and beheading ? (sorry, I mean slowly slicing people's head off) ? ...
the latter seems a bit widespread ... you see it everywhere from Iraq to Indonesia to the Phillipines ....
Inshallah i shall open another thread unless you wish too.
I find that talking about 2 subject in the same thread is a bit "noisy" -
please do ...Originally posted by Zulkiflim:Salaam,
Inshallah i shall open another thread unless you wish too.
I find that talking about 2 subject in the same thread is a bit "noisy"
I must say I am a bit prejudiced after stumbling onto some beheading videos on the internet ....
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Salaam,Originally posted by mancha:This is one of the causes of killings in the name of Allah.
Permissible killings in the Arabic language. Which is subjected to numerous interpretation. Often to suit ones agenda.
Too many times, something is done, and the apologist come out and say it is contrary to Islam.
This post is yet another one.
When will Muslims live in accordance with Islam?
When something is deemed perfect, it means it does not need change.
Islam is irrefutability far from perfect.
This have to be realised before changes for the better can occur.
The first thing that need to be done is to "lift the whip".
And allow inquiry in Islam. No more I-am-the-senior-you-accept-what-I-say-end-of-discussion!
Can Islam withstand close scrutiny and dissection?
What is the fear?
In Islam we say read and ask as many question as possible before embracing.
Islam is for the thinking people.
We do not want to perform dakwah and accept new muslim who do not understand.
We do not seek converts but we answer only when asked.
Inshallah,if you have nay question pls ask.
I shall provide you with two website both opposites to one another.
The first is a anti Islam website,
http://www.answering-islam.de/Main/
i am very sure in the website there you find many article condemning islma on the front of women,terrorism,Propeht Muhammad saw.
If you find it lacking then just search google for anti islam websites,there are many but the accusation are always the same.
The other is a rebuttal for all the accusation
http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac8.htm#links
Inshallah,i hope those who wishes to learn will learn from both perspective and come to thir own conclusion. -
Zulkifilm,Originally posted by Zulkiflim:Salaam,
just to correct you,Kurds are Muslim ,they are majority Sunnis.
The US like to define Iraq by Sunni/hia and Kurds which is misleading casue Kurds are Muslim Sunni.
Perhaps you would also like to share with us some of your knowledge of other moderate muslim practices such as the Sufis. I understand that many of the "backward" practices protrayed today as practices of Islam were originally tribal practices since the middle age and therefore limited to certain regions rather than religions. I mean, sure they kill in the name of Allah, but they were already doing it before Islam even reaches them, they just do the same things using different name. -
Ya, I am pretty sure PAP is the root of all evil. Yesterday my Xiao Qiang died and I think its a conspiracy by the PAP to end the world and fatten up their pocket too.Originally posted by ShutterBug:Oh, we have a lot of Honour Killing going on in Singapore too!
A lot of people were hung for drug related offences, and murder. So it is in a sense Honour Killing too - not in the name of Allah, but PAP... -
Salaam,Originally posted by wisefool83:Zulkifilm,
Perhaps you would also like to share with us some of your knowledge of other moderate muslim practices such as the Sufis. I understand that many of the "backward" practices protrayed today as practices of Islam were originally tribal practices since the middle age and therefore limited to certain regions rather than religions. I mean, sure they kill in the name of Allah, but they were already doing it before Islam even reaches them, they just do the same things using different name.
Firs off,in Islam there is no such thing as moderate muslim or extremist muslim.
The better term is misguided muslims.
I would like to point out that for the wes,modrate muslim are like Hirsi Ali,a lesbian who say that the Quran should be changed.Who challenged the ruling of the Prophets and Allah.
Also people like the Muslim maddona,http://www.muslimmadonna.com/.
Such people are moderate muslim,as coined by the west.
For muslim one and all,we clearly say they as well as those who do contrary to Islamic ruling are MISGUIDED.
As for sufis,pls post another thread Inshallah i shall answer if able.