Hey Lee Kuan Yew,Ma Ying Jeon wont follow your style one!!!!
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You can stop dreaming already,he wont follow your style of ruling Singapore .He is no Boot-licker Goh Chok Tong,he no need to scare of you.Plus he experience the dictatorial ruling of Jiang family in Taiwan in the old days,thats why he will treasure the value of democracy in Taiwan,he wont follow PAP type of ruling in Singapore.
Of coz,when he visit Singapore,he has to praise Singapore abit.Becoz we all know that Singapore is a "Police-state",if he talk bad about Singapore in here,wait he kenna lock up how?
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With all respect, if I were PAP, I wouldn't give two hoots about your post.
Why? Because you are whining for the sake of whining.
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u got balls! i like!
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Ha ha ha!! Saw him on the Chinese news last night. He said Taiwan is different from Singapore, Taiwan is more vibrant, active and democratic!! Mr Ma has a mind of his own. He is a better politician compared to the old leeÂ’s son, LEE HSIEN LOONG. Mr Ma has good sense of judgement and is real sincere in serving the Taiwanese, this is something that is missing from the LEE HSIEN LOONG. Really, Mr Ma has my respect. Respect LEE HSIEN LOONG, this is a question mark and most likely the answer is no. Both of them are friends. Shame on you lee hsien long!
The way a country is depends on how the ruling party “mold” the country. With the sort of ruling party we have, we can only talk about democracy. -
rock star, you are indirectly commenting about his English, aren't you! Anyway, he is much better than many Singaporeans in a way as he dares to voice out. I have come across so many Singaporeans though they are so unhappy about the gahmen, but they are acting like mice, they are just too timid and fearful of voicing out. They are so afraid they will be arrested if they speak negatively of the gahmen!!Originally posted by Rock^Star:With all respect, if I were PAP, I wouldn't give two hoots about your post.
Why? Because you are whining for the sake of whining.
What is style one by the way? Is there also a style two and three? -
I agree Ms Rane, we should all have the courage to voice out. However, the voice that comes out must also be credible.Originally posted by rane:rock star, you are indirectly commenting about his English, aren't you! Anyway, he is much better than many Singaporeans in a way as he dares to voice out. I have come across so many Singaporeans though they are so unhappy about the gahmen, but they are acting like mice, they are just too timid and fearful of voicing out. They are so afraid they will be arrested if they speak negatively of the gahmen!!
Criticism must be constructive, otherwise how would anyone pay any attention?
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well done, you dared to shout out. but there's one thing, why did you related ma ying-jeou to goh chok tong? and i don't really think its necessary to compare.Originally posted by drawer:You can stop dreaming already,he wont follow your style of ruling Singapore .He is no Boot-licker Goh Chok Tong,he no need to scare of you.Plus he experience the dictatorial ruling of Jiang family in Taiwan in the old days,thats why he will treasure the value of democracy in Taiwan,he wont follow PAP type of ruling in Singapore.
Of coz,when he visit Singapore,he has to praise Singapore abit.Becoz we all know that Singapore is a "Police-state",if he talk bad about Singapore in here,wait he kenna lock up how? -
Of course, I accept constructive criticism.. BTW, there are others who are really whining in their own way (destructively) just to spike other forumers here. Believe you know who I am referring to - OM, Gazelle and a few others. Drawer is sometimes just letting out his frustration about the gahmen, he does not mean any harm. I believe in one way or other we sometimes do that too.Originally posted by Rock^Star:I agree Ms Rane, we should all have the courage to voice out. However, the voice that comes out must also be credible.
Criticism must be constructive, otherwise how would anyone pay any attention?
Would you pay attention to someone who gives you destructive criticism, instead of constructive ones?
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ya, some might not like what the government is doing too.Originally posted by rane:Of course, I accept constructive criticism.. BTW, there are others who are really whining in their own way (destructively) just to spike other forumers here. Believe you know who I am referring to - OM, Gazelle and a few others. Drawer is sometimes just letting out his frustration about the gahmen, he does not mean any harm. I believe in one way or other we sometimes do that too. -
the gahmen here is "sucking" , good in "sucking" $$$$$ from us.Originally posted by BusSpeeder:ya, some might not like what the government is doing too. -
With the current governance, there would be frustration of course.Originally posted by rane:Of course, I accept constructive criticism.. BTW, there are others who are really whining in their own way (destructively) just to spike other forumers here. Believe you know who I am referring to - OM, Gazelle and a few others. Drawer is sometimes just letting out his frustration about the gahmen, he does not mean any harm. I believe in one way or other we sometimes do that too.
I believe Speaker Corners should be a place where we all voice constructive views, not emotional outbursts.
There are a few whom I respect in SC, primarily because they can present their views in a calm yet strong manner. Facts and figures are also presented to back up their arguments.
The voice in SC must be credible, otherwise, the PAP (and even fellow Singaporeans) would dismiss this section of sgforums as "not worth listening to".
Perhaps frustrations would be more apt to be released in Whinehouse.
My $0.02 worth. -
WEll, I don't think the ruling party will care enough to take whatever constructive discussion here to improve in their way of running the country. Or should I say, how we feel, what we face don't affect them at all. At least, the old lee and son give me this impression. Guess when people talk about political issues, sometimes it is natural that they do unconsciously or consciously show the emotional side of them. Sometimes, it is not possible to completely leave emotions out when we communicate. However, as much as we can, we should keep on our focus and be objective to state facts and so on.Originally posted by Rock^Star:With the current governance, there would be frustration of course.
I believe Speaker Corners should be a place where we all voice constructive views, not emotional outbursts.
There are a few whom I respect in SC, primarily because they can present their views in a calm yet strong manner. Facts and figures are also presented to back up their arguments.
The voice in SC must be credible, otherwise, the PAP (and even fellow Singaporeans) would dismiss this section of sgforums as "not worth listening to".
Perhaps frustrations would be more apt to be released in Whinehouse.
My $0.02 worth.
I don't deny there are a number of forumers here who are rather credible in their discussions. Some are even professsional to attach facts to substantiate what they say. This is what healthy discussion is about. -
wrong, this is in relate towards politics and the TS is trying to say that our government has made a wrong move to think that our government is following the style Ma Ying-Jeou use to oppose the Taiwanese government. And regarding your last post, you have no right to comment on other's English because you are indirectly insulting his misuse of English words.Originally posted by Rock^Star:With the current governance, there would be frustration of course.
I believe Speaker Corners should be a place where we all voice constructive views, not emotional outbursts.
There are a few whom I respect in SC, primarily because they can present their views in a calm yet strong manner. Facts and figures are also presented to back up their arguments.
The voice in SC must be credible, otherwise, the PAP (and even fellow Singaporeans) would dismiss this section of sgforums as "not worth listening to".
Perhaps frustrations would be more apt to be released in Whinehouse.
My $0.02 worth. -
I stand by your side. Really good in your proving.Originally posted by rane:WEll, I don't think the ruling party will care enough to take whatever constructive discussion here to improve in their way of running the country. Or should I say, how we feel, what we face don't affect them at all. At least, the old lee and son give me this impression. Guess when people talk about political issues, sometimes it is natural that they do unconsciously or consciously show the emotional side of them. Sometimes, it is not possible to completely leave emotions out when we communicate. However, as much as we can, we should keep on our focus and be objective to state facts and so on.
I don't deny there are a number of forumers here who are rather credible in their discussions. Some are even professsional to attach facts to substantiate what they say. This is what healthy discussion is about. -
Originally posted by BusSpeeder:wrong, this is in relate towards politics and the TS is trying to say that our government has made a wrong move to think that our government is following the style Ma Ying-Jeou use to oppose the Taiwanese government.
Kindly explain the above statement.
And regarding your last post, you have no right to comment on other's English because you are indirectly insulting his misuse of English words.
My apologies if TS saw it in a way other than I intended. -
I personally think that most Taiwan politicians are smart and coy enough to know what the priorities are. Yes, Ma maybe praising the SG to the high heavens but he knows that the Taiwanese, unlike SGreans are sharp, alert and can analyze information indepedently. They will not just blindly follow what the newspaper says. The blue camp for all this yrs like the PAP have lost contact with the hearts and minds of Taiwanese, especially the younger generation. The autocratic rule of the Chiang eras coupled with the "merry-making, serenading PRC" stances does not bodes well with younger generations. Times have changed, the younger generations of Taiwan wants to carve out an identity or culture for themselves and unlike the older generations, they have no connections or feelings for mainland. So why times have progress, KMT not only lost the support of the young, their usual stances of " KMT is endorsed by the mainland so voting for me means no war", potraying themselves as PRC's second fiddle, does not connect with the ppls. Yes no doubt PRC has threat the island with force, but it is the ppls that installs the govt, not the PLA.......
The recent speech by Ma is just a smoke screen used to allow KMT to re-shuffle their focus on domestic issues. -
Originally posted by BusSpeeder:wrong, this is in relate towards politics and the TS is trying to say that our government has made a wrong move to think that our government is following the style Ma Ying-Jeou use to oppose the Taiwanese government.
Kindly explain the above statement.
What i mean was that what the TS directly relates to the political issues. -
Originally posted by drawer:You can stop dreaming already,he wont follow your style of ruling Singapore .He is no Boot-licker Goh Chok Tong,he no need to scare of you.Plus he experience the dictatorial ruling of Jiang family in Taiwan in the old days,thats why he will treasure the value of democracy in Taiwan,he wont follow PAP type of ruling in Singapore.
Of coz,when he visit Singapore,he has to praise Singapore abit.Becoz we all know that Singapore is a "Police-state",if he talk bad about Singapore in here,wait he kenna lock up how? 
...are u kidding me....that degenerate scum can only lock up singaporeans.... LKY onli got balls inside sg but overseas....ahem ahem..... 
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Hi, I do agree with rockstar. please do write more coherently and with more respect to proper grammar.Originally posted by Rock^Star:With all respect, if I were PAP, I wouldn't give two hoots about your post.
Why? Because you are whining for the sake of whining.
What is style one by the way? Is there also a style two and three?
not that I'm an excellent writer or good at english, but I do realise there are too many topics written messily or irresponsibly nowadays.
and yes, I dislike the way the PAP runs(ruins) our country in certain ways too. -
he lockup the taiwanese guy later got international problem how?? later SG might lose its standing among the international community by subjecting foreign leaders to its 'strict laws'.....
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will be castrated after lao Lee found his post.Originally posted by 798:u got balls! i like! -
so what?? We don't care much about old lee, we care about the way he and the gang run our country. Who cares about him when they don't care about us when making policies and so on!!!! If you fear then your life may be miserable!!! WE gotta stand firm in what we know is right, heck the father and son!!Originally posted by dbowie:will be castrated after lao Lee found his post. -
Definitely, and of course, majority of Taiwanese are smart to know the priorites. Mr Ma knows what works for Singapore may not work for Taiwan. People of Taiwan are not easily manipulated by their gahmen unlike people in Singapore. Mr Ma has his own mind and good sense of judgement to know what is best for Taiwan and will not follow blindly the style of our gahmen. Taiwanese fight for their right and make full use of democracy to stand firm in what they believe and want. Taiwan is a very different country from Singapore.Originally posted by equlus84:I personally think that most Taiwan politicians are smart and coy enough to know what the priorities are. Yes, Ma maybe praising the SG to the high heavens but he knows that the Taiwanese, unlike SGreans are sharp, alert and can analyze information indepedently. They will not just blindly follow what the newspaper says. The blue camp for all this yrs like the PAP have lost contact with the hearts and minds of Taiwanese, especially the younger generation. The autocratic rule of the Chiang eras coupled with the "merry-making, serenading PRC" stances does not bodes well with younger generations. Times have changed, the younger generations of Taiwan wants to carve out an identity or culture for themselves and unlike the older generations, they have no connections or feelings for mainland. So why times have progress, KMT not only lost the support of the young, their usual stances of " KMT is endorsed by the mainland so voting for me means no war", potraying themselves as PRC's second fiddle, does not connect with the ppls. Yes no doubt PRC has threat the island with force, but it is the ppls that installs the govt, not the PLA.......
The recent speech by Ma is just a smoke screen used to allow KMT to re-shuffle their focus on domestic issues.
Somehow, I admire their guts and courage in dealing with politics issues. -
don't forget this thing: the government controls the police. the police force that we have EASILY, i repeat, EASILY outnumber the residents of singapore. unless you hate the government SO MUCH that you hate the police force we have then you say this in relate towards the government's ruling of the certain defence/attack forces that we have: "We don't care much about the stupid police force that we have", which is insulting.Originally posted by rane:so what?? We don't care much about old lee, we care about the way he and the gang run our country. Who cares about him when they don't care about us when making policies and so on!!!! If you fear then your life may be miserable!!! WE gotta stand firm in what we know is right, heck the father and son!! -
agreed. taiwan IS a very different country, other countries have her kind of ruling too, but how come she always have her residents fighting when in the courtroom, like most "li wei" fight for just minor issues against their judgement of views.Originally posted by rane:Definitely, and of course, majority of Taiwanese are smart to know the priorites. Mr Ma knows what works for Singapore may not work for Taiwan. People of Taiwan are not easily manipulated by their gahmen unlike people in Singapore. Mr Ma has his own mind and good sense of judgement to know what is best for Taiwan and will not follow blindly the style of our gahmen. Taiwanese fight for their right and make full use of democracy to stand firm in what they believe and want. Taiwan is a very different country from Singapore.
Somehow, I admire their guts and courage in dealing with politics issues.