Free Education and Medical Care : Fact or Myth?
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I don't blame you. You probably were not schooled in the study of statistics.Originally posted by Gazelle:To tell you the truth, I cant remember, could have made some mistake while adding up the tax revenue. But thats not going to affect that much isnt it?
So if you think that $149.3 is too low, then bring it higher and get over it.
So as you promise, I am now waiting for you to explain who you come up with the S$10.6b figure? -
This is where you got your S$10.6b from and my question to you is why do you consider all these expenditure as benefits? PM Office expenditure are consider as benefits to Singaporeans? I thought you guys were crying so loud when PM raise the salary of this minister?Originally posted by Rock^Star:So based on the statistics, you can't tell if my $10.6 billion is the correct figure or not?
This above sentence of yours tells me you have little idea on how to analyse statistics.
If you cannot decipher the report, then how are you going to contribute sensible comments. Why should we waste time and continue on this debate then?
And I am asking you why not the social development expenditure and economic development for manpower?
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Oh my.......stop embarassing yourself any further. You do not know what to look for in statistics report.Originally posted by Gazelle:This is where you got your S$10.6b from and my question to you is why do you consider all these expenditure as benefits? PM Office expenditure are consider as benefits to Singaporeans? I thought you guys were crying so loud when PM raise the salary of this minister?
And I am asking you why not the social development expenditure and economic development for manpower?
Let me reiterate: $10.6 billion is benefits to Singaporeans.
The first picture you have posted is technically correct but it doesn't disclose the full picture if you do not link to other parts of the report. You have totally misinterpreted the first picture anyway.
The second picture.....yes social and economic development expenditure are important and then ________? You fill in the blanks.
I shall not educate you further. Wait till you know what you have been talking before we discuss again. -
Rock^Star,Originally posted by Rock^Star:Oh my.......stop embarassing yourself any further. You do not know what to look for in statistics report.
Let me reiterate: $10.6 billion is benefits to Singaporeans.
The first picture you have posted is technically correct but it doesn't disclose the full picture if you do not link to other parts of the report. You have totally misinterpreted the first picture anyway.
The second picture.....yes social and economic development expenditure are important and then ________? You fill in the blanks.
I shall not educate you further. Wait till you know what you have been talking before we discuss again.
the point here is, if you dont have a full pictures of where these expenditure is going to, then how the hell you know they are benefits to singaporeans?
You are just making a whole bunch of assumption that is making you look like a fool. That is the whole purpose of me pressing you to explain your tax/benefits ratio.... hahahah -
Originally posted by Gazelle:Rock^Star,
the point here is, if you dont have a full pictures of where these expenditure is going to, then how the hell you know they are benefits to singaporeans?
Are you sure about the above underlined? Have you really read the stats report properly? Do you really know which heading it falls under?
You are just making a whole bunch of assumption that is making you look like a fool. That is the whole purpose of me pressing you to explain your tax/benefits ratio.... hahahah
You are akin to a dud who has stuffed his ears with cotton and say there is no thunder when obviously there is. -
Gazelle,
if you bui hiao, then say you bui hiao. Mai gey kiang.
I know it that you bui hiao from the way you post.
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I am still waiting for your explanation on why expenditure for PM Office, is being included as benefits to Singaporeans?Originally posted by Rock^Star:Gazelle,
if you bui hiao, then say you bui hiao. Mai gey kiang.
I know it that you bui hiao from the way you post. -
You obviously don't know much about PMO right?Originally posted by Gazelle:I am still waiting for your explanation on why expenditure for PM Office, is being included as benefits to Singaporeans?
The figure of $10.6 billion does not include salaries. Why? Because it's for development.
The PMO itself has a few organisations in there. Among them, CPIB, PSD, NSCS.
This money is pumped into these departments so that they may serve Singaporeans.
For example, CPIB eradicates corruption. One of PSD's focus is to develop and train civil servants. NSCS coordinates with MHA to counter terrorism.
If this is not benefits for the people, then I don't know what is.
Forgive me for saying this but I'm beginning to think you are bloody stupid. -
Let me tell you, you are bloody stupid. Any more contributions from you is really not healthy to this discussion anymore.Originally posted by Gazelle:And I am asking you why not the social development expenditure and economic development for manpower?
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Do you not know that it has already been included?
Pg 12 of the report refers to "Total Expenditure" and it includes operating costs.
Pg 11 shows the "Allocation of Development Expenditure by Sector and Ministry" and that has already been included in $10.6 billion.
Why? Because:
Education falls under MOE.
Health - MOH
National Development - MND
Community Development, Youth and Sport - MCYS
Environment and Water Resources - MEWR
Info, Comm and the Arts - MICA
Now, refer to pg 7 and you shall see why. -
Really, so could you tell us who does Singaporeans benefit from PMO? hahahOriginally posted by Rock^Star:You obviously don't know much about PMO right?
The figure of $10.6 billion does not include salaries. Why? Because it's for development.
The PMO itself has a few organisations in there. Among them, CPIB, PSD, NSCS.
This money is pumped into these departments so that they may serve Singaporeans.
For example, CPIB eradicates corruption. One of PSD's focus is to develop and train civil servants. NSCS coordinates with MHA to counter terrorism.
If this is not benefits for the people, then I don't know what is.
Forgive me for saying this but I'm beginning to think you are bloody stupid.
this is going to be interesting because he will indirectly be supporting PM salary...hahah.. -
Did you graduate from clown school?Originally posted by Gazelle:Really, so could you tell us who does Singaporeans benefit from PMO? hahah
this is going to be interesting because he will indirectly be supporting PM salary...hahah..
You are forcing your way through unfamiliar territory. Suit yourself. My participation in this debate shall end now.
As usual, go and "win" this argument by saying that I cannot substantiate my claim. -
You can call me whatever you want as long as it makes your feel smarter.Originally posted by Rock^Star:Did you graduate from clown school?
You are forcing your way through unfamiliar territory. Suit yourself. My participation in this debate shall end now.
As usual, go and "win" this argument by saying that I cannot substantiate my claim.
Beside PM office, you have also include expediture on Attorney-GeneralÂ’s Chamber, Auditor-GeneralÂ’s Office, Cabinet Office, Judicature and Parliament
I am just wonder who sort of benefits does singaporeans get from those expenditure?
Looks like someone has just fallen into his own trap and big talk about tax/benefit ratio