Ban ban ban!!!
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Think they are going to ban this topic again. If they are positive in supporting freedom of speech, I don't think they will ban the topics. Please sgforums, explain to us the reasons why you are doing this to us. By doing this to us,it is like for eg: when you don't like the look of that someone you kill him/her.
If you are really a responsible media, do explain to us why you ban our topics. If you don't then will take it that you are not responsible to the users here. Anyone who is upright and neutral, will not resort to this way of handling/managing! Singapore is not a communist country. -
Just wanna see if they will close or ban this topic. Singapore is not a communist country, I am sure freedom of speech is encouraged and not disallowed. Is our govt that narrow minded to disallow freedom of speech, I don't think so right? Any upright government will allow freedom of speech!
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uh so wad topics were they?
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All the topics pertaining to underhand tactics.Originally posted by Ito_^:uh so wad topics were they? -
if you are not happy, might as well, PM FI and demand for an explanation why, she ban your topic
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So it is FI, are u really sure! If it is her, think she practises prejudice. She ever threaten to close or ban my topic before. The topic I posted was of benefit to the people, yet she dare threaten, tyrant! No wonder someone has asked her to eat SSSShhhittt, sshittt, sake see!! She is temperamental as a moderator, and I think she shouldn't be as this is very unprofessional. Don't like it, ban or close the topic, so childish! Grow up lah, fireice, if you are the one closing or banning the topics!! What a shame!Originally posted by allentyb:if you are not happy, might as well, PM FI and demand for an explanation why, she ban your topic
yawn~~~
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Long live PM...
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If she or other mod responsible for the act of banning and closing refuses to post the explanation, think this person is timid and hiding in the dark is it! Jian bu de kuang!!!Originally posted by allentyb:if you are not happy, might as well, PM FI and demand for an explanation why, she ban your topic
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The root of problems faced by the citizens is self-centredness.
Because of self-centredness, the whole country has been governed based on the ideas and assumptions of one man. It could only use leadership, talent, globalization and colourful expressions and concept to make it look like success.
Success came initially. It was the results people's own sacrifices in forgoing their incomes and earning to pay direct and indirect taxes and allowing government to recover all possible costs and making hidden profits on lands and assets through its GLCs.
Since 1970s, the initial success brought about by people's own sacrifices was taken for granted as leaders' or government's own success or talents.
As events have proven, such self-centred system of running the country is no longer sustainable resulting in deep periodic recessions, unemployments and dropping wages of ordinary citizens from which the people have yet to recover.
Now leaders are using external economic recovery as a hype with the help of their controlled media to make workers' sacrifices on cpf cuts and double-taxation on essential services, lands and assets look like their success.
Once it is proven that self-centredness especially in the aftermath of ministers' wrongful benchmarking of their own salaries to lucky private sector CEOs, has ceased to work and will no longer work for the future sustainability of growths, it is then possible for newspapers to free themselves from the current yoke of obsessive controls by the autocrats. -
Is he your idol?Originally posted by fairlady_xoxo:Long live PM... -
I know the self-centredness problem long ago, the difference between now and before is it has gotten worst with the rule of Lee hsien loong. He is the worst we can have for a PM in Singapore. Say or criticise whatever about the past PMs, think they in their ways contribute much more than the junior lee.Originally posted by robertteh:The root of problems faced by the citizens is self-centredness.
Because of self-centredness, the whole country has been governed based on the ideas and assumptions of one man. It could only use leadership, talent, globalization and colourful expressions and concept to make it look like success.
Success came initially. It was the results people's own sacrifices in forgoing their incomes and earning to pay direct and indirect taxes and allowing government to recover all possible costs and making hidden profits on lands and assets through its GLCs.
Since 1970s, the initial success brought about by people's own sacrifices was taken for granted as leaders' or government's own success or talents.
As events have proven, such self-centred system of running the country is no longer sustainable resulting in deep periodic recessions, unemployments and dropping wages of ordinary citizens from which the people have yet to recover.
Now leaders are using external economic recovery as a hype with the help of their controlled media to make workers' sacrifices on cpf cuts and double-taxation on essential services, lands and assets look like their success.
Once it is proven that self-centredness especially in the aftermath of ministers' wrongful benchmarking of their own salaries to lucky private sector CEOs, has ceased to work and will no longer work for the future sustainability of growths, it is then possible for newspapers to free themselves from the current yoke of obsessive controls by the autocrats.
It is so questionable why he enters politician to serve people. Wants to earn more $$$, be a business man. he is giving himself bad publicity as a politician who concentrates so much on money making than care enough to servce the people with sincerity.
Well, ultimately the people have a choice on voting day. Some people are to blame themselves for the choice they have been making. So it is two sides to a coin. Make them the choice, so please don't complain and blame them for the continuous rise of the cost of living within short time. You have yourself to blame!!! Base on the number of votes they are in power to rule. -
hmmOriginally posted by rane:So it is FI, are u really sure! If it is her, think she practises prejudice. She ever threaten to close or ban my topic before. The topic I posted was of benefit to the people, yet she dare threaten, tyrant! No wonder someone has asked her to eat SSSShhhittt, sshittt, sake see!! She is temperamental as a moderator, and I think she shouldn't be as this is very unprofessional. Don't like it, ban or close the topic, so childish! Grow up lah, fireice, if you are the one closing or banning the topics!! What a shame!
you actually wanted to accuse her of being a tyrant, i don't see the rational of you in a rage over a topic, and as much as i want to agree with you, you have to show the mass, some of the topic, that have been locked, or deleted away
do kindly explain, how a mod should behave, i guess, each mod, is using their own perception to determine whether, this topic should be locked or deleted away.
as what the wise has say before - to err is human
so no point in cursing at FI unless you have the support of the mass -
I am not the only one who have bad encounters with FI. Go read the forums here there are people whom she treated negatively. If you are so pro FI, I don't think you are objective on this.Originally posted by allentyb:hmm
you actually wanted to accuse her of being a tyrant, i don't see the rational of you in a rage over a topic, and as much as i want to agree with you, you have to show the mass, some of the topic, that have been locked, or deleted away
do kindly explain, how a mod should behave, i guess, each mod, is using their own perception to determine whether, this topic should be locked or deleted away.
as what the wise has say before - to err is human
so no point in cursing at FI unless you have the support of the mass -
Cursing, mind your words - don't put your own words in my message. I am not cursing FI. Please stop your nuisance. Sometimes I know why she deleted or threaten to delete topics, other times she is just probably throwing her weight around!!! Please don't ever put words in my posting, you don't have the right to do so!Originally posted by allentyb:hmm
you actually wanted to accuse her of being a tyrant, i don't see the rational of you in a rage over a topic, and as much as i want to agree with you, you have to show the mass, some of the topic, that have been locked, or deleted away
do kindly explain, how a mod should behave, i guess, each mod, is using their own perception to determine whether, this topic should be locked or deleted away.
as what the wise has say before - to err is human
so no point in cursing at FI unless you have the support of the mass -
In online communities, the moderator's word is final. Not happy, use the private message system.
By starting so many topics related to it, it's just asking for trouble. That will be seen as a challenge and is more often than not a flamebait. Since that is so, everything has to be closed before flaming starts. Be glad that your nickname is still alive. On some other forums, try this and you see the word Banned above your nickname. -
Whatever, think it is good pr and the responsibility for the mod to explain why. Those topics meant no harm. Well , they should show some respect to the users here.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:In online communities, the moderator's word is final. Not happy, use the private message system.
By starting so many topics related to it, it's just asking for trouble. That will be seen as a challenge and is more often than not a flamebait. Since that is so, everything has to be closed before flaming starts. Be glad that your nickname is still alive. On some other forums, try this and you see the word Banned above your nickname. -
huh?Originally posted by rane:Cursing, mind your words - don't put your own words in my message. I am not cursing FI. Please stop your nuisance. Sometimes I know why she deleted or threaten to delete topics, other times she is just probably throwing her weight around!!! Please don't ever put words in my posting, you don't have the right to do so!
all i am asking is, you explain on how a mod should behave, and now you are asking me to stop my nuisance, huh? what is wrong with my post, and i am not a supporter of FI and i even check through my post to clarify it, and i merely mention the word - cursing, how in the world, did i put words into your post, if you think i am accusing you of cursing at FI, ok, that part i am wrong, since you are so defending about your post, and all i am asking is, show some of the thread, that she has locked before, to back your statement,
ya ya, she is throwing her weight around, and she even have the title of the queen, ok so? i can live with it, oh goodness. -
That you tell to FI and the other moderators here.Originally posted by rane:Whatever, think it is good pr and the responsibility for the mod to explain why. Those topics meant no harm. Well , they should show some respect to the users here.
Whether or not topics meant any harm, we should realize that somebody will say the wrong thing and the fire starts.
In the case of the underhand tactics thread, it's not saying the wrong things, but rather letting perceptions rules over logic. From a nice harmless topic to name-calling, bringing topics over from Bar to Speakers' Corner... you get the flow. -
Unfortunately, our mods play hide and seek. They don't participate in conversations as mediators or anything.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:That you tell to FI and the other moderators here.
Whether or not topics meant any harm, we should realize that somebody will say the wrong thing and the fire starts.
In the case of the underhand tactics thread, it's not saying the wrong things, but rather letting perceptions rules over logic. From a nice harmless topic to name-calling, bringing topics over from Bar to Speakers' Corner... you get the flow.
They just sit back and click without explaining anything.
And, it's not for you to explain their actions, but them themselves, unless the said moderators use alter egos in their patrol of the forum. -
At the end of the day, this whole sgforums still belong to someone else, his own private property.
I think admin or admin-appointed-mods have the right to decide what should be discussed here, but as far as the situation is concerned, its an purely administrative issue, not a government conspiracy or some restriction of freedom of speech issue.
We can be against government or its policies, but please dont be overly paranoid and accusatory to inflict damage on our fellow citizen in name of 'freedom of speech'. Respecting other's private property and space should be one of our considerations when participating in mature political discussion.
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damn kpkb.