Has China elitist mandarin scholar system outperformed?
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Such an elitist mandarin system excludes the participation of the common men resulting in setting back China from scientific and technology progress for 3,000 years.
Originally Posted by loyaltosingapore View Post
Has anyone seen any ancient chinese movies whereby the ultimate is to take the imperial exam so that they can be admitted to the courts, so that they can have the power, so that they can become rich and their clans will be well taken care of.
Of course those days they have emperor and eunuchs and officials
Sounds familiar
Singapore has copied unwittingly a system which has failed in ancient China trying to create an elitist mandarin hierarchy which only served to curtail mass participation and practical knowledge application and innovation among the general population.
Only a self-effacing emperor cannot see he is naked. -
The one big difference between the present Singapore and past China - POWER.
In Singapore, nobody can wield great powers no matter what educational qualifications the person has.
Also, great results doesn't automatically mean getting a great post in civil service, if anybody is thinking of that.
The past China - as long as the Emperor himself is useless, some idiots will try to work himself up the ranks and overthrow him.
Singapore's talents are deemed by the government itself, which resulted in talents flowing overseas and not back here. -
Singapore's talents are deemed by the government itself, which resulted in talents flowing overseas and not back here.
This is the reason why by playing up big on their own kind of talents many people are driven away to seek better pasture elsewhere.
It is a pity our great leader does not understand enough about motivation and what makes people tick. -
"The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would steal them away." --Ronald reagan
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On surface, we practised the same type of system as China, in actual fact, if anybody ever believes it, be prepared for the hammer to whack you hard.Originally posted by robertteh:This is the reason why by playing up big on their own kind of talents many people are driven away to seek better pasture elsewhere.
It is a pity our great leader does not understand enough about motivation and what makes people tick.
They don't understand... too bad. Talents are all we have. -
Singapore has always been using the O and the A level Cambridge Exam to decide on who are the ones accetable move on in society, no? Isn't it the Singapore University, the Raffles Institution that produced the top civil servants, for the Singapore government? Aren't all these copied from UK? Didn't LKY and LHL both educated in the top universities in UK?Originally posted by robertteh:Such an elitist mandarin system excludes the participation of the common men resulting in setting back China from scientific and technology progress for 3,000 years.
Singapore has copied unwittingly a system which has failed in ancient China trying to create an elitist mandarin hierarchy which only served to curtail mass participation and practical knowledge application and innovation among the general population.
Only a self-effacing emperor cannot see he is naked.
Since when did Singapore ever send any civil servants to unwittingly copy a system from China? How could the elitist system in Singapore a copy from China which was under communism for the last 50 years?
Before you know anything about the mandarin system in China, please don't make a fool of yourself. -
Chinese Mandarin System was abandoned since 1905, hmm....it must be Sir Stamford Raffles, he must be the one who copied unwittingly from China, then he founded Raffles Institution, the elite school to cultivate the civil servants in Singapore. Then he instituted the PSLE exam, you dont score more than 260 also cannot get into RI, then the O level exam copied from Cambridge, only those who score a perfect 8 A1s can get into RJC....woa lao...No wonder why so many Chinese cannot get into civil service lah, they went to the wrong schools, only ended up as Chinese helicoptersOriginally posted by robertteh:Such an elitist mandarin system excludes the participation of the common men resulting in setting back China from scientific and technology progress for 3,000 years.
Singapore has copied unwittingly a system which has failed in ancient China trying to create an elitist mandarin hierarchy which only served to curtail mass participation and practical knowledge application and innovation among the general population.
Only a self-effacing emperor cannot see he is naked.
Now I know why there are so many ministers from RI. Remember the little girl, Wee Shu Ming, who claimed to be elite, also from RJC. Chinese Mandarin System was long gone, it is now RI, the very elite institute "which only served to curtail mass participation and practical knowledge application and innovation among the general population." RI is the continuation of the thousands years old china elitist mandarin system.
Rafflesian, please don't bash me, just let my imagination run wild..
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i bet LHL AND LKY thinks otherwise..Originally posted by googoomuck:"The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would steal them away." --Ronald reagan -
I say otherwise.Originally posted by 4getmenot:i bet LHL AND LKY thinks otherwise.. 
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they just turn government into business.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:I say otherwise. -
Yes. The best ones are poached by the GLCs(Giant Loss-making companies)
