World Audit on Democracy: Singapore 2 ranks above N. Korea
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Interesting to note that World Audit on Civil Liberties ranks Singapore 1 rank above North Korea (DPRK) in terms of democracy. Apparently another older report puts Singapore at 2 ranks above North Korea. Singapore is ranked 82 in this current report.
You know something, in North Korea, there might be some people who are firm supporter of Kim Jong Il. With the control of the media, they probably think that they are democratic like us. Whatever that is repeated with enough frequency in the media will be a truth in no time. That's why media should always be independent of political control.
A point I have to emphasize, a market based economic system does not equate to a democratic political system. China has adopted a market based economic system, but is China democratic???
Source: World Audit Organisation -
yay. -
whoever said we were democratic in the 1st place..
look on the bright side..
at least we are ahead of malaysia? -
Out of a possible 150 countries in the rank, we don't even qualify a mid-point of rank 75.
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Ur-huh, quite interesting...
At least we are up ahead malaysia as I see, but Indonesian is still up ahead!
Guess corruption is not everything... -
this is not news. this story is already as old as grandma story liao. We all know there is no TRUE Democracy in Singapore. -
seems like we're the only 'first' world country ranked amongst third world nations ...Originally posted by maurizio13:Interesting to note that World Audit on Civil Liberties ranks Singapore 1 rank above North Korea (DPRK) in terms of democracy. Apparently another older report puts Singapore at 2 ranks above North Korea. Singapore is ranked 82 in this current report.
You know something, in North Korea, there might be some people who are firm supporter of Kim Jong Il. With the control of the media, they probably think that they are democratic like us. Whatever that is repeated with enough frequency in the media will be a truth in no time. That's why media should always be independent of political control.
Source: World Audit Organisation -
Originally posted by snow leopard:seems like we're the only 'first' world country ranked amongst third world nations ...
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What am I supposed to make of this? That this regime is regressing? Or should I take the DPRK's progress to be a benchmark of how much closer we're coming to attaining world peace?
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Since when it was said we are democratic?Originally posted by club18:whoever said we were democratic in the 1st place..
look on the bright side..
at least we are ahead of malaysia?
Our pledge doesn't even say so.
"To build a democratic society .... "
So nothing wrong. But can have lots of interpretation. -
North Korea = DPRK (Democratic People's Republic of Korea)Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Since when it was said we are democratic?
Our pledge doesn't even say so.
"To build a democratic society .... "
So nothing wrong. But can have lots of interpretation. -
Originally posted by maurizio13:North Korea = DPRK (Democratic People's Republic of Korea)
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Nothing wrong there - there's a long tradition behind having "democratic" forming a part of a country's official name. After all, wasn't there the German Democratic Republic (GDR) too?Originally posted by maurizio13:North Korea = DPRK (Democratic People's Republic of Korea) -
I think we are similar to North Korea in some ways, they create new unheard of titles for their past leaders, such as "Eternal President of the Republic" for Kim Il Sung, we did the same with the creation of SM and MM.
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i would like to know what are the criteria for these rating?
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Methodology:Originally posted by Arapahoe:i would like to know what are the criteria for these rating?
Countries with fewer than 1 million inhabitants are not audited.
Each country is rated on a scale of 1 to 7 by Freedom House for political rights (P) and civil liberties (C). Countries are assigned to a division (D) within our democracy table thus:
If P and C are both 1 then D=1
If P is 1 and C is 2 then D=2
If P + C is between 3 and 7 then D=3
If P + C is seven or above then D=4
Within each division positions are calculated using an average of press freedom and corruption scores. World Audit corruption scores are calculated using the Transparency International Corruption Perceptions Index (CPI). "This is the most comprehensive index of perceptions of corruption ever published by the anti-corruption organisation, ranking 159 countries. It is a "poll of polls", drawing upon numerous distinct surveys of expert and general public views of the extent of corruption in many countries around the world".
The World Audit corruption scores (used in the World Democracy Audit) are taken from the CPI data and calculated using the following equation where T is the CPI score:
World Audit corruption score = 100 - 10T
The resulting World Audit corruption scores all lie between 0 and 100 (lower being more favourable).
The purpose of the equation is to facilitate comparison between the CPI score, which lies between 0 and 10 before the use of the equation (a higher score being more favourable), and the Press Freedom score, which lies between 0 and 100 (lower being more favourable).
E.g. Sweden:
Sweden's CPI score = 9.2
... therefore T = 9.2
WA corruption score = 100 - 10T
= 100 - (10 x 9.2)
= 100 - 92
... therefore Sweden's WA corruption score (A) = 8 out of 100
...to obtain a World Democracy Ranking this is added to the Press Freedom score
Sweden's Press Freedom score (B) = 9 out of 100
(A) + (B) = 17
Average score (A +B)/2 = 9
Comparing the average score with those of all other nations, where lowest is best, Sweden ranks 4th in the World Democracy Audit
Source:
Transparency International (TI)
Otto-Suhr-Allee 97-99 D-10585 Berlin
Germany
Tel (+49) 30-343820-0
Fax (+49) 30-34703912 -
If our leaders openly and honestly professed to be building a communist state the situation could well be more acceptable.
Not the Dr. Jackal and Mr. Hyde where at one moment they are for democracy and justifying their leadership as popularly elected to look good and wise but the next they make so many policies to suit themselves and their own doings without benefiting the majority of citizens. -
So?
Hong Kongers cannot even elect their own leaders. How democratic is that? The people are happy as long as they are doing well economically. In fact, Hong Kong business leaders are against universal suffrage.
It's the economy, stupid! -
telling: "but the next they make so many policies to suit themselves and their own doings without benefiting the majority of citizens."Originally posted by robertteh:If our leaders openly and honestly professed to be building a communist state the situation could well be more acceptable.
Not the Dr. Jackal and Mr. Hyde where at one moment they are for democracy and justifying their leadership as popularly elected to look good and wise but the next they make so many policies to suit themselves and their own doings without benefiting the majority of citizens. -
This is a weird way of arguing. So you are saying the dead dog is dead, so we should join the dead dog and be dead too?Originally posted by oxford mushroom:So?
Hong Kongers cannot even elect their own leaders. How democratic is that? The people are happy as long as they are doing well economically. In fact, Hong Kong business leaders are against universal suffrage.
It's the economy, stupid! -
So mathematically SG must have score Zero on "B" and very high on A. So i guess when the survey was done gov might have thought to score high is good than.Originally posted by maurizio13:Methodology:
Countries with fewer than 1 million inhabitants are not audited.
Each country is rated on a scale of 1 to 7 by Freedom House for political rights (P) and civil liberties (C). Countries are assigned to a division (D) within our democracy table thus:
If P and C are both 1 then D=1
If P is 1 and C is 2 then D=2
If P + C is between 3 and 7 then D=3
If P + C is seven or above then D=4
Within each division positions are calculated using an average of press freedom and corruption scores. World Audit corruption scores are calculated using the Transparency International Corruption Perceptions Index (CPI). "This is the most comprehensive index of perceptions of corruption ever published by the anti-corruption organisation, ranking 159 countries. It is a "poll of polls", drawing upon numerous distinct surveys of expert and general public views of the extent of corruption in many countries around the world".
The World Audit corruption scores (used in the World Democracy Audit) are taken from the CPI data and calculated using the following equation where T is the CPI score:
World Audit corruption score = 100 - 10T
The resulting World Audit corruption scores all lie between 0 and 100 (lower being more favourable).
The purpose of the equation is to facilitate comparison between the CPI score, which lies between 0 and 10 before the use of the equation (a higher score being more favourable), and the Press Freedom score, which lies between 0 and 100 (lower being more favourable).
E.g. Sweden:
Sweden's CPI score = 9.2
... therefore T = 9.2
WA corruption score = 100 - 10T
= 100 - (10 x 9.2)
= 100 - 92
... therefore Sweden's WA corruption score (A) = 8 out of 100
...to obtain a World Democracy Ranking this is added to the Press Freedom score
Sweden's Press Freedom score (B) = 9 out of 100
(A) + (B) = 17
Average score (A +B)/2 = 9
Comparing the average score with those of all other nations, where lowest is best, Sweden ranks 4th in the World Democracy Audit
Source:
Transparency International (TI)
Otto-Suhr-Allee 97-99 D-10585 Berlin
Germany
Tel (+49) 30-343820-0
Fax (+49) 30-34703912 -
LOL, that's a nice retort.Originally posted by Fingolfin_Noldor:This is a weird way of arguing. So you are saying the dead dog is dead, so we should join the dead dog and be dead too?
No offence to the ladyboys, but it's like saying that they are perfectly happy after having gone through the operation, so why should OM think he should be unhappy after operating on himself?
Maybe OM should try stocking up on brains instead of one-liners instead. -
Hong Kong belongs to China, they are communist adopting a system of market economy. That's why you see China ranked 126 and not higher than our rank of 82.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:So?
Hong Kongers cannot even elect their own leaders. How democratic is that? The people are happy as long as they are doing well economically. In fact, Hong Kong business leaders are against universal suffrage.
It's the economy, stupid!
You know what's the biggest irony, we have ISA to put communist elements behind bars and the proponents of the ISA are the biggest transgressors. -
I wonder if this report will be reported objectively by our local 147th media?