UK terror suspects all linked to NHS
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Terror suspects all linked to NHS
Tuesday, 3 July 2007, 14:02 GMT
(BBC News)Police made two arrests at Royal Alexandra Hospital in Paisley
Eight people arrested in connection with failed car bombings in Glasgow and London all have links with the National Health Service, the BBC has learned.
Seven are believed to be doctors or medical students, while one formerly worked as a laboratory technician.
Australian media have identified a man arrested at Brisbane airport as Dr Mohammed Haneef, 27.
Two men have been arrested in Blackburn under terror laws but police have not confirmed a link with the car bombs.
Dr Haneef, who formerly worked in Cheshire, was detained while trying to board a plane to India. A second doctor is also being interviewed in Australia.
Seven doctors or medical students have been arrested in England, Scotland and Australia in connection with the attacks. All worked in NHS hospitals.
Marwah Dana Asha, 27, who was arrested on the M6, is thought to have worked as a lab technician at an NHS hospital in Shrewsbury.
She was arrested with her husband, Dr Mohammed Asha, 26, who worked at the University Hospital of North Staffordshire NHS Trust.
Two men arrested in Scotland on Monday over the attack at Glasgow airport and one held at the scene of the airport attack have been handed over to the Metropolitan Police.
Six of the eight people arrested are now being held at London's Paddington Green police station.
Secondary searches are being carried out on passengers at Heathrow Terminal 4 in response to a suspect bag.
Controlled explosions have been carried out on a car at a Glasgow mosque and at a station in Hammersmith, west London.
British Transport Police said explosives experts performed a controlled explosion on three fire extinguishers left on a pavement outside Hammersmith Tube station, which serves the District and Piccadilly lines.
Three explosions were also carried out on the car in Glasgow as a precaution, but Strathclyde Police said there had been "absolutely no specific information" regarding a threat.
Australian Prime Minister John Howard said Australian police had acted on information from the UK authorities.
The man detained at Brisbane airport was an Indian national who had been trying to return to India with a one-way ticket, he added.
ARRESTS TIMELINE
30 June Two men arrested at Glasgow airport after burning car driven into doors of main terminal
30 June A 26-year-old-man, Dr Mohammed Asha, and a 27-year-old woman arrested on the M6 near Sandbach, Cheshire
1 July A 26-year-old man arrested near Liverpool's Lime Street station
1 July A 28-year-old man and a 25-year-old man arrested in Paisley
2 July A 27-year-old male doctor is detained in Australia, and a second doctor is questioned
Australian authorities said police had executed search warrants at the Gold Coast Hospital in Southport, eastern Queensland - where the detained doctor worked as a registrar - and at other locations.
They said the detained man and the doctor being interviewed by police had both been based in Liverpool before coming to work in Australia.
Dr Haneef is known to have previously worked at Halton Hospital in Runcorn, Cheshire.
Speaking at a Muslim Council of Britain press conference, Dr Muhammed Abdul Bari said those who sought to kill or maim innocent people were "enemies of all of Muslims and non-Muslims".
He reiterated the government's view that it was "unacceptable to hold any one faith group or any community as being somehow collectively responsible for the actions of the few".
Meanwhile, Iraqi Bilal Abdullah - a doctor arrested at Glasgow airport on Saturday - has been taken from Scotland to Paddington Green police station in London.
Another man detained at Glasgow airport along with Dr Abdullah suffered severe burns and remains in a critical condition under armed police guard at the Royal Alexandra Hospital in Paisley - where Dr Abdullah was employed as a locum.
A forensic team was at the scene of the Glasgow Airport attack
Dr Asha, who was brought up in Jordan and worked as a junior doctor at the Royal Shrewsbury Hospital and the Princess Royal Hospital in Telford, was arrested on the M6 in Cheshire on Saturday night.
Two men, aged 28 and 25, were arrested on Sunday at residences of the Royal Alexandra Hospital and another man, aged 26, was arrested in Liverpool on Sunday.
Dr Abdullah is said to have qualified in Baghdad in 2004 and first registered as a doctor in the UK in 2006.
Detectives are trying to trace the movements of the green Jeep Cherokee - registration L808 RDT - loaded with gas cylinders, which crashed into the doors of Glasgow airport's main terminal and burst into flames on Saturday afternoon.
The attempted attack came a day after two Mercedes containing petrol, gas cylinders and nails were found outside a nightclub in London's Haymarket and in a nearby street.
Home Secretary Jacqui Smith said 19 locations had been searched by police investigating the attacks.
These included properties in Houston, near Glasgow; Merseyside and two addresses in Newcastle-under-Lyme, Staffordshire.
Police are also searching Dr Asha's office at the University Hospital of North Staffordshire, in Stoke-on-Trent.
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Oh Gosh
........Is Oxford Mushroom in this too ????
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Later he say you defame him leh.Originally posted by miserable:Oh Gosh ........Is Oxford Mushroom in this too ????
Anyway, let's keep this from turning into a flame thread ya. -
Hmm, maybe the NHS is in trouble?
Not sure, I din have history study on that...
Hopw we dun have things like MOE teachers driving burning Toyotas up Changi Airport... -
NHS is a good deep-cover place for a sleeper cell to operate.Originally posted by jetabt767400:Hmm, maybe the NHS is in trouble?
Not sure, I din have history study on that...
Hopw we dun have things like MOE teachers driving burning Toyotas up Changi Airport... -
Hmmm....Originally posted by miserable:Oh Gosh ........Is Oxford Mushroom in this too ????
So his codename is Oxford Mushroom?
He could be a sleeper cell. -
It is very interesting group of people....Doctors during the day and terrorist by night. it just show that a sound minded person can be bought into idealogy of killing in mass.
But on the other hand it is such a waste of resources to teach these folks to be a doctors. it goes again their profession and its ethic of saving life, curing illness.
I also wonder were they terrorist before they became doctors? if so than maybe it encourage young people to take up Terrorist scholarship.
Sound like a new way of life altogether. -
Terrorists can take cover in the large piles of red tape lying around.Originally posted by LazerLordz:NHS is a good deep-cover place for a sleeper cell to operate.
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haha...afraid osama cannot afford my services.Originally posted by maurizio13:Hmmm....
So his codename is Oxford Mushroom?
He could be a sleeper cell.
The UK should learn from us: use the ISA to imprison all these jokers without need of a trial. That's how we got rid of the communist threat. Keep them in Sentosa or Changi Prison
Anyone caught trying to set off an explosive device, just hang them. They should just forget about liberal ideas of human rights and civil liberties and unlease the british MI5 on them. They cannot even make ID cards compulsory for Christ's sake. If you want security, you have to sacrifice some personal liberties. This is the real world, where real bombs kill real people. Leave the woolly leftist liberal and his smart-alecky quotations in his ivory tower. -
i thought most of our Draconian law handdown from UK. so why do they have to learn from us?
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ah .... "foreign talents" ....
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Dr Jekyll by day, and a Mr Hyde by night.
Co-incidentally, the novel - ''Strange case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde'' was written by a Scottish author in 1866.
This current terrorist plot had to unravel itself in Glasgow, just when a Scot has taken over the UK PM post.
What else can we expect from Doctors who believe themselves to be ''larger than Life'', constantly believing themselves to be standing on the ''right side'' of questionable values, and believing that ''the ends justify the means, irregardless of cost to the individuals'' ?
Such are the distorted values of ''Doctors'' who believe their self-worth is of a higher value than ordinary men.
Then again, there was also a brilliant and overbearing young Singaporean Lawyer from Oxbridge, who also carry such arrogant thoughts of himself, and will impose his will irregardless of the opinions from everyone.
Is it the person, or is it the atmosphere at Oxbridge that can breed such distorted personalities ?
Or is it simply the ''curse'' from building a Large Empire that cannot be held together, resulting in the present events of having ''the Empire strikes back'' ? -
Engineers, Lawyers, Doctors,
All are known to be devout in their "religion of peace".
Are they misguided?
Or have they clearly understood their mesage.
In Southern Thailand, Muslims who espouses peace coexistence are killed by these 'extremists', and bombmakers are defended by their school children.
They have instructions from their most high, to kill all non-believers where ever they find them.
Just who are adhering to their theology and who are not? -
For doctors, the planning and execution seems sorely lacking. The suicide vehicle failed to penetrate into the airport, and the perpetrators were actually arrested at the scene.
Still, the Pakistan-link is chilling, especially with Pakistan a hotbed of ultra-activity. This will add further discrimination to the immigrant population and Islam, alienating the current community and possibly giving the UK govt the grounds to ban immigration altogether. -
Originally posted by oxford mushroom:haha...afraid osama cannot afford my services.
The UK should learn from us: use the ISA to imprison all these jokers without need of a trial. That's how we got rid of the communist threat. Keep them in Sentosa or Changi Prison
Anyone caught trying to set off an explosive device, just hang them. They should just forget about liberal ideas of human rights and civil liberties and unlease the british MI5 on them. They cannot even make ID cards compulsory for Christ's sake. If you want security, you have to sacrifice some personal liberties. This is the real world, where real bombs kill real people. Leave the woolly leftist liberal and his smart-alecky quotations in his ivory tower. 
Oh well, that was expected just as much. In any case, don't think that we can do a better job than a nation that has gone through the Blitz, the IRA campaign and this.
They have a track record against actual violent insurgents, we only have a track record against people who happen to have a different opinion as from old man Lee. -
Plastic bottle explodes in Clementi Ave 3
Residents in Clementi Avenue 3, alarmed by a loud sound at about 7.30pm on Tuesday evening, called the police who later confirmed that the noise was caused by a plastic bottle exploding.
Police then cordoned off the area to conduct a thorough check.
White substance, believed to be cleaning powder, was scattered on a curb near the car park of Block 447.
The broken plastic bottle was reportedly found on a motorbike.
Police, who are still investigating the matter, said no one was injured and nothing was damaged.
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OM, is this done by your fellow mate Lionnoisy ?
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Spore is also worried about the doctor joining the terrorist as there is a
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Originally posted by BillyBong:
Is it not an irony that for economic migrants to land on a new land, will still want to keep their ancient tribal cultures, rituals, values and traditions stubbornly alive and refusing to assimilate into the new environment ?
For doctors, the planning and execution seems sorely lacking. The suicide vehicle failed to penetrate into the airport, and the perpetrators were actually arrested at the scene.
Still, the Pakistan-link is chilling, especially with Pakistan a hotbed of ultra-activity. This will add further discrimination to the immigrant population and Islam, alienating the current community and possibly giving the UK govt the grounds to ban immigration altogether.
It is the ongoing mistake of the UK Government for being over generous - and not controlling - the inflow of ex-Commonwealth residents into UK, and for not ensuring that the numbers of immigrants will not unbalance and threaten the native culture, social and religious values that is characteristic of UK.
Britain is the last bastion of Anglicanism, with the Royal Family being the sworn protector of the Faith; yet we see with deepening irony of a UK that we used to know, being changed by an upsurge of alien migrants changing the UK landscape with new smells of curries, and alien sounds of wailing at odd hours of the day - calling the alien faithfuls to an alien religion that is the anti-thesis of Anglicanism.
The migrants have fled their own homeland that is inhospitable to their economic and social needs, and have been accomodated by the generous values of British Anglican values. Yet, these migrants will see fit not to assimilate into the modern Life in Britain. These migrants will even dare to be aggressively insistent to practise their own Religious Laws and beliefs, and will even have the audacity to impose their own religious and cultural values onto the populace of the adopted homeland.
Any Anglican will be beheaded for doing the same in any country with Islam as the official relgion - IF the Anglican attempt to accomplish in the Islamic countries exactly what a Muslim has achieved for Islam in UK.
This is the curse of the Empire that Britain created and abandoned. -
If doctors can also be terrorists, I hope that this is a wake up call to the "dishonorable lot" not to be too arrogant in case one of their "body guards" turn against them...
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haha...sour grapes of a loser..what can we expect?Originally posted by Atobe:Dr Jekyll by day, and a Mr Hyde by night.
Co-incidentally, the novel - ''Strange case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde'' was written by a Scottish author in 1866.
This current terrorist plot had to unravel itself in Glasgow, just when a Scot has taken over the UK PM post.
What else can we expect from Doctors who believe themselves to be ''larger than Life'', constantly believing themselves to be standing on the ''right side'' of questionable values, and believing that ''the ends justify the means, irregardless of cost to the individuals'' ?
Such are the distorted values of ''Doctors'' who believe their self-worth is of a higher value than ordinary men.
Then again, there was also a brilliant and overbearing young Singaporean Lawyer from Oxbridge, who also carry such arrogant thoughts of himself, and will impose his will irregardless of the opinions from everyone.
Is it the person, or is it the atmosphere at Oxbridge that can breed such distorted personalities ?
Or is it simply the ''curse'' from building a Large Empire that cannot be held together, resulting in the present events of having ''the Empire strikes back'' ? -
The society, government and religious leaders all have a part to play.Originally posted by mancha:Engineers, Lawyers, Doctors,
All are known to be devout in their "religion of peace".
Are they misguided?
Or have they clearly understood their mesage.
In Southern Thailand, Muslims who espouses peace coexistence are killed by these 'extremists', and bombmakers are defended by their school children.
They have instructions from their most high, to kill all non-believers where ever they find them.
Just who are adhering to their theology and who are not?
If Singaporeans cannot distinguish between the religion and extremist elements in all religions, we will be in trouble. How many Muslim friends attend your wedding/birthdays? Do you insist on having Chinese workers when a working knowledge of Chinese is not critical?
The government is right to ban Salman Rushdie's book and the Danish cartoons. Such so-called artforms have no place in a multiracial and multi-religious society. They only serve to breed radicals. Whilst the UK chose to honour the author who has written a blasphemous work, we should not allow such literature to enter our shores. We must not repeat the mistakes of the liberal leftists in the UK.
At the same time, the government must be tough on extremist groups, using all the powers afforded by the ISA, the intelligence provided by the people and religious groups to root out such radicals. The UK government is not even allowed to use phone tap evidence at the moment. No wonder they have big problems with intelligence. We must learn from the UK's errors. The common people will support greater government intrusion into their lives to ensure their security. If we have to keep undesirable elements in prison or on an offshore island for the rest of their lives, so be it!
Religious leaders must work harder with the government, community leaders and heads of other religions. There should be more teaching of Islam and difficult passages in the Koran must be confronted by experts, not hidden way till they are discovered by extremists who apply their own warped interpretation. Perhaps all schools should be taught the basic tenets of Islam and all Muslims be required by law to attend an Islamic course of some sort, drawn up and taught by true islamic experts. There should be greater space for interaction in the mosques. More programmes may be open to non-muslims, to foster greater understanding and allow dialogue about the practice of their faith. -
mister, hope you come to this forum / thread not with the motive of flaming, looking for trouble, cause havoc and other negative stuff.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:haha...sour grapes of a loser..what can we expect?
OM, please be kind. Doctors are to have good character, are you one?
Sad, terrorist attack again ! Can't these people let the people of this world enjoy peace!!!!! -
Originally posted by zix1:
Some mushrooms are supposed to have benefits to Mankind, while others are no better than poisonous parasites that can only cause harm and damage to humans.
Originally posted by oxford mushroom:
haha...sour grapes of a loser..what can we expect?
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mister, hope you come to this forum / thread not with the motive of flaming, looking for trouble, cause havoc and other negative stuff.
OM, please be kind. Doctors are to have good character, are you one?
Sad, terrorist attack again ! Can't these people let the people of this world enjoy peace!!!!!
Similarly, frauds that pass themselves off as a decent ''Doctor Jekyll'', but have a mind that is as hollow and dumb as ''Mr Hyde'' cannot differentiate between what is good or bad - cannot possibly be of any good to humankind.
Even spastics with a little training can get along with Life, but unfortunately a Mushroom will insist on seeing the world filled with losers, as the Mushroom is a loser in Life, as it cannot survive on its own, and must survive as a parasite that must live off other beings.
The biggest losers are those who will not reconcile with their position and will always accuse others for their own failings.
Pitifully sad.... did you ask if he is a Doctor ?
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Ironically, it is not just the crumbled british empire that is facing this problem. France is another european country where legions of former french colonial citizens have emigrated in search of a better life.Originally posted by Atobe:Is it not an irony that for economic migrants to land on a new land, will still want to keep their ancient tribal cultures, rituals, values and traditions stubbornly alive and refusing to assimilate into the new environment ?
It is the ongoing mistake of the UK Government for being over generous - and not controlling - the inflow of ex-Commonwealth residents into UK, and for not ensuring that the numbers of immigrants will not unbalance and threaten the native culture, social and religious values that is characteristic of UK.
Britain is the last bastion of Anglicanism, with the Royal Family being the sworn protector of the Faith; yet we see with deepening irony of a UK that we used to know, being changed by an upsurge of alien migrants changing the UK landscape with new smells of curries, and alien sounds of wailing at odd hours of the day - calling the alien faithfuls to an alien religion that is the anti-thesis of Anglicanism.
The migrants have fled their own homeland that is inhospitable to their economic and social needs, and have been accomodated by the generous values of British Anglican values. Yet, these migrants will see fit not to assimilate into the modern Life in Britain. These migrants will even dare to be aggressively insistent to practise their own Religious Laws and beliefs, and will even have the audacity to impose their own religious and cultural values onto the populace of the adopted homeland.
Any Anglican will be beheaded for doing the same in any country with Islam as the official relgion - IF the Anglican attempt to accomplish in the Islamic countries exactly what a Muslim has achieved for Islam in UK.
This is the curse of the Empire that Britain created and abandoned.
Yet it seems the level of racial tolerance in France far exceeds those in UK. Having visiting France several time in the course of my work, i have interacted with both 'white french', 'french africans' and 'french algerian '. I must say that on the surface and under it, there is little or no discrimination in terms of skin colour and race.
Even after the banning of the tudong in 2005 by the French education ministry, apart from the initial outcry, there was no hardline extremist response by staunch muslims in the country, though the French government lobbied the idea of placing restrictions on the number of immigrants into the country, plans which were partly accelerated by the massive fire breakout in the slums of downtown France in 2006.
It seems that despite what others claim of the french, speaking a 'snob' common language has helped with the integration process, not to mention the 'welfare' state France is known for.
Ultimately, the bastion of hotbed activity is measured by the level of acceptance by the local community, as well as the govt's stand. Outright banning of immigrations will not solve the problem in the long run. It may in fact foster xenophobic behaviour among the british for future generations. -
you mean new migrants have to convert to christianity and assimilate when they become uk citizens ?Originally posted by Atobe:Is it not an irony that for economic migrants to land on a new land, will still want to keep their ancient tribal cultures, rituals, values and traditions stubbornly alive and refusing to assimilate into the new environment ?
It is the ongoing mistake of the UK Government for being over generous - and not controlling - the inflow of ex-Commonwealth residents into UK, and for not ensuring that the numbers of immigrants will not unbalance and threaten the native culture, social and religious values that is characteristic of UK.
Britain is the last bastion of Anglicanism, with the Royal Family being the sworn protector of the Faith; yet we see with deepening irony of a UK that we used to know, being changed by an upsurge of alien migrants changing the UK landscape with new smells of curries, and alien sounds of wailing at odd hours of the day - calling the alien faithfuls to an alien religion that is the anti-thesis of Anglicanism.
The migrants have fled their own homeland that is inhospitable to their economic and social needs, and have been accomodated by the generous values of British Anglican values. Yet, these migrants will see fit not to assimilate into the modern Life in Britain. These migrants will even dare to be aggressively insistent to practise their own Religious Laws and beliefs, and will even have the audacity to impose their own religious and cultural values onto the populace of the adopted homeland.
Any Anglican will be beheaded for doing the same in any country with Islam as the official relgion - IF the Anglican attempt to accomplish in the Islamic countries exactly what a Muslim has achieved for Islam in UK.
This is the curse of the Empire that Britain created and abandoned.