Get Lost Dirty Foreigners
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I totally disagree with u TS!
Singaporean or not, Is it a matter??
So how abt Singaporean who work overseas.
Dun have such discrimination attitude.
Also our Ancestors aren't Singaporean tough.
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Dumb lar,without foreigners,singapore is still a third world nation.Your parents or you got job all because of foreigners...............(open companies here)and why foreigners come to work in singapore because they do jobs singaporeans don't want to do.E.g do you want to work as road sweeper?construction worker??And replenish our pool of skills.Singapore want to develop into aerospace hub but singapore don't have such experts so of course 'import' them.Study your social studies please.Don't try to be a nationalist...........
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no, foreigners don't make up half of our population, only 25%.Originally posted by RealSingaporeans:For decades, real Singaporeans are disgusted with influx of foreigners who shamelessly come to live and work in Singapore. About half of our population now is made up of foreigners.
REAL SINGAPOREANS
anyway, you better get use to the idea since the ft policy is going to stay for quite a while. here is some reality:
Indians
History revisited
A new wave of Indian immigrants is uplifting Singapore's skills content; some locals see them as a threat for jobs. By Seah Chiang Nee.
Jul 7, 2007
A RETIRED banker on a visit to the city centre after several years was taken aback by the new mass of cosmopolitan humanity during lunch-hour, “especially the number of Indians”.
He wasnÂ’t referring to local Indians, who had lived here for over a century, but the new arrivals.
“I was surprised to see the changes. The crowds were a colourful lot with people speaking in various languages. There was hardly a place to sit,” he said.
“Above all the buzz are Indian professionals, who seem to be everywhere, from Raffles MRT to Suntec City.”
The foreign elements were not so prevalent in the years that he had worked there before he retired. “At the time most of the Indians could be seen only in Little India or were scattered around the housing estates.”
My friend would have been more impressed had he visited some industrial estates, where many IT engineers work in electronics.
Needing to change a computer disk drive, I went to Ang Mo Kio Industrial Estate recently, lost my way in the vast concrete jungle and had to seek direction from two workers.
Both turned out to be recent arrivals from India.
As Singapore moves deeper into the 21st Century, its future lies increasingly in the hands of immigrants – of the right kind, of course. With its birth rates falling, it needs millions of them to stay ahead.
And India is one of the top suppliers of talent, next in numbers only to Malaysia and China (though Malaysians have never really been regarded as foreigners).
Over the past decade, Singapore's Indian community has been transformed by the invasion of high-tech professionals, similar to the impact they made in the United States.
The new arrivals are not only IT professionals but include a growing number of financial, research and support workers. Some bring their own businesses here.
Several condos in the East Coast are popular choices for Indian families; their kids play in the parks on Sunday.
The influx is reshaping the demography. Traditionally, some 8% of Singaporean residents are ethnic Indians, 76% Chinese and 14% Malays.
But Indian arrivals make up a large 12% of the estimated 900,000-strong foreign community here.
This has pushed up the total number of ethnic Indians living here to more than 420,000 or 9.4% of the total population of 4.5 million.
Unlike those in the past, this new wave has higher skills and is wealthier; their children are better educated, which augurs well for the future.
“Being a creative and entrepreneurial group, Indians are a great asset to our economy,” Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong commented.
A blogger recently wrote: “The new breed of professional Indian expatriates are radically transforming the Indian Diaspora in Singapore.”
In 1990, for example, only 22% of Indians were professionals or managers; today it is more than 50%. Cleaners and labourers fell from 15% to less than 8%.
The Indians have become a major ingredient in the mixed racial salad bowl of this city state – South East-Asia's most high-tech and wealthiest country.
The flavours of the Indian curries, of Roti Prata, Thosai and Briyani, the festivities of Deepavali and Thaipusam, and the song and dance of Indian movies, are all an integral part of the socio-cultural landscape of Singapore.
Little India is the enclave for Indians, as Geylang Serai is for the Malays and Chinatown for the Chinese.
For the new migrants, settling down to SingaporeÂ’s lifestyle is less a social or cultural challenge compared with the West or Hong Kong. But even with the affinity, life is often less than rosy.
Singaporeans do not feel hostile towards foreigners – whether from China or India – but neither do they welcome them with open arms. They are sometimes resented for taking away local jobs or places in university.
Even among their local kin, the foreigners from India often stand out. Mindsets and values between them differ.
Many new arrivals seem to consider themselves superior to local Indians, PeopleÂ’s Action Party backbenchers say.
An ethnic Indian backbencher said the way they were seen to behave had raised concern among the local Indians.
A similar barrier exists between the local-born and mainland Chinese that sometimes bursts into online verbal spats.
Tapping into emerging IndiaÂ’s strength is a major strategy for Singapore not only economically but also politically.
“It is a universal truth that the new world belongs to the United States, China and India,” said a political commentator. In short, India makes a good strategic partner to offset China’s power.
Traditionally, Singapore has thrived on trade and investment in South-East Asia, but in recent years the environment has deteriorated for its investors in Thailand and Indonesia.
SingaporeÂ’s high-powered investments in several counties in the region are encountering local sensitivities.
In many ways, India itself has changed.
In the 70s when it first banned Coca Cola and other foreign products, an ambassador told me in New Delhi: “I’ve been here for three years and I still haven’t figured out whether this is a capitalist or a communist economy.”
India is gradually overcoming partisan politics that prevent another China from taking shape there.
“Realistically speaking, India is not China and the opportunities, when they come, will be slow to take root,” said an exporter to China.
“Between them there is still a big gap, but it could narrow in future and Singapore should be there.” -
ok i try not to take it personally but..... YOu aRE A SON OF A FEMALE DOG!!!!!!!!!..... thank you
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there are no REAL singaporeans here. decades ago we were all foreigners from foreign lands. even the malays who stayed here before raffles came originated from the malay peninsula
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f*ck off hitlerOriginally posted by RealSingaporeans:For decades, real Singaporeans are disgusted with influx of foreigners who shamelessly come to live and work in Singapore. About half of our population now is made up of foreigners.
They infest our public transport and street. They bring diseases (eg. SARS) and killed our loved ones. Most importantly, these dirty foreigners steal jobs from real Singaporeans! Our men serve National Service and die for foreigners' happiness!
Since 1990s, the government been actively converting foreigners to citizens. It is a desperate solution to the declining birth rate. Blatant propaganda about "foreign talent" by the media is merely a pretext to justify their lie.
Get lost dirty foreigners! Real Singaporeans suffer so much in silence. Please rot in your rotten countries - Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines, China, India etc.
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lol the US is probably the most rotten countryOriginally posted by BusSpeeder:TS, please take note, foreigners are coming from alot of countries. are you implying that if a US come to singapore, his country is rotten and he's a rotten foreigner? -
hei dude..look..im also a singaporean for ur info...and frm wat ive seen,
its the foreigners who work their asses of to build high rise flats and other infrastructure..while you sit down in a coffee shop and eat ''BAAR QUA''..
And secondly ...u say they are stealing the jobs frm singaporeans...and for ur info, foreigners are willing to work here at any cost...be it at lower salary cost or any harsh conditions....but wat wud u do? you'll only nag and complain abt everything thats not rite...dnt think you know everything and the peepz in here know nothing...
And lastly... and Info for an dumbass like you...SARS came frm the Chinese and the Indians...not frm the foreigners...its the truth...Go ask ur teacher to make sure of it...
If ur a true singaporean...stop talking rubbish here, stand up and go do your own FuCkiNg Business....instead of blaming others for wat u have not accomplised!!
Singaporeans call it [MYOB].
p.s. if u cant understand the acroname..., u may as well Shut Ur Ass Trap
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stupid kampong kia.Originally posted by RealSingaporeans:For decades, real Singaporeans are disgusted with influx of foreigners who shamelessly come to live and work in Singapore. About half of our population now is made up of foreigners.
They infest our public transport and street. They bring diseases (eg. SARS) and killed our loved ones. Most importantly, these dirty foreigners steal jobs from real Singaporeans! Our men serve National Service and die for foreigners' happiness!
Since 1990s, the government been actively converting foreigners to citizens. It is a desperate solution to the declining birth rate. Blatant propaganda about "foreign talent" by the media is merely a pretext to justify their lie.
Get lost dirty foreigners! Real Singaporeans suffer so much in silence. Please rot in your rotten countries - Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines, China, India etc.
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I hafta disagree wif u on the grounds that I want a Japanese girlfren.
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Originally posted by jondizzle foshizzle:f*ck off hitler
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dont be too steoreotyping dude.
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i believe they feel the same of singaporeans working in their country.Originally posted by kaitokura:I totally disagree with u TS!
Singaporean or not, Is it a matter??
So how abt Singaporean who work overseas.
Dun have such discrimination attitude.
Also our Ancestors aren't Singaporean tough.
Please think before post!
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You kids have to see for yourself what is really happening in the real working world.
You may have seen it in your schools, of the many talented foreigners. Good, they provide you with the challenge to strive hard.
But that does not affect the bottom line: the dollars and cents.
In the working world, good FTs provide you with healthy competition for you to strive harder. But at the end of the day, your Boss may be willing to overlook that competition and pay the one who is willing to accept the lower pay, irregardless whose more competitive or whose working smarter.
The only competitive factor is the salary.
If you're living in S'pore as a Singaporean, you've gotta be paid in lieu with Singapore standards if living.
But if I'm a FT, from a developing nation especially, no problem if I get paid lower, cos ultimately, I will have enuff to spend in my home country.
RE: Nationalism, on the contrary, we're guilty of not having enuff of it. -
*gives flame shield*
good luck you'll need this. -
Originally posted by DaddyYankee16:
i don't mind if the foreigners comes here for investments and for low skilled job.
hei dude..look..im also a singaporean for ur info...and frm wat ive seen,
its the foreigners who work their asses of to build high rise flats and other infrastructure..while you sit down in a coffee shop and eat ''BAAR QUA''..
And secondly ...u say they are stealing the jobs frm singaporeans...and for ur info, foreigners are willing to work here at any cost...be it at lower salary cost or any harsh conditions....but wat wud u do? you'll only nag and complain abt everything thats not rite...dnt think you know everything and the peepz in here know nothing...
[b]the exchange rate of our currency is much more higher than that of theirs
if they're earning 1.2k they can easily save up to 600 per month which is about 3000RMB after 2 years, they can go back and live comfortably in the country side and buy his OWN land
And lastly... and Info for an dumbass like you...SARS came frm the Chinese and the Indians...not frm the foreigners...its the truth...Go ask ur teacher to make sure of it...
If ur a true singaporean...stop talking rubbish here, stand up and go do your own FuCkiNg Business....instead of blaming others for wat u have not accomplised!!
Singaporeans call it [MYOB].
p.s. if u cant understand the acroname..., u may as well Shut Ur Ass Trap [/b]
but i do mind if they're taking up the higher management position.
is singaporeans not gd enough?
or are we too costly?
are we really not skillful enough?
if we are really like what the ministers say,
i guess we need to employ FT as minister to cut down on labour cost for the minister level. probably they'll cost about 500k annually compared to our multi-million ministers? and the FT maybe more skillful than compared to our ministers.
the ministers themselves are singaporean -
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i think you restrict yourself with this topics. Remember SG is a globalized city. In todays environment it is hard to find a single identity for any nation.
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India is globalized too no? I wonder what's their identity...hmmm...Originally posted by Arapahoe:i think you restrict yourself with this topics. Remember SG is a globalized city. In todays environment it is hard to find a single identity for any nation.
Malaysia is glopbalized too..no? I wonder what races are more dominant there...hmmm...
China also globalized... hmmm... I wonder... -
whine house ba
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I don't think TS said it the right way, but I can understand why he is feeling frustrated. If you are working you will know that feeling also. Like the guy above said, its not how hard you work, its how low you are willing to get paid. And when you want to fight who can go lower with a foreigner from India, Indonesia, Phillipines, China, Thailand, Malaysia etc. You see who will lose. They are willing to squeeze with 6 people renting a 3-room flat. Are you willing to take a salary that can only afford a 3-room flat if you also have to house your parents, your wife and children?
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you have to thank the dirty foregners for taking care of the children while the parents go to work
you have to thank the dirty foreigners for willing to accept the SIN$500 monthly pay
you have to thank the dirty foreginers for willing to do the work that all Singaporeans won't do it, like labour, waiter
you have to blame the employers for bringing the foreigners because Singaporeans are always expecting high salary even on their first day of job
and the employers want to spend less on their salary, the lesser the better
The root of all the problem is Singaporeans themselves. So before you blame others (foreigners) please think twice.
The government is obsessed with National Service for all boys because they scared one day the island will be conquered by some other nations
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The root of the problem is PAP and the ever increasing Cost of Living....Originally posted by wlben:you have to thank the dirty foregners for taking care of the children while the parents go to work
you have to thank the dirty foreigners for willing to accept the SIN$500 monthly pay
you have to thank the dirty foreginers for willing to do the work that all Singaporeans won't do it, like labour, waiter
you have to blame the employers for bringing the foreigners because Singaporeans are always expecting high salary even on their first day of job
and the employers want to spend less on their salary, the lesser the better
The root of all the problem is Singaporeans themselves. So before you blame others (foreigners) please think twice.
The government is obsessed with National Service for all boys because they scared one day the island will be conquered by some other nations
More shamefully Singaporeans never grow vegetables in their own backyard.
and the 66.6% of idiots who voted them in...
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On a side note, do you know how much it costs to have a home with a backyard?Originally posted by wlben:More shamefully Singaporeans never grow vegetables in their own backyard.
jk
To the TS:
But seriously, its mainly the government's super open door policy. For example, imagine if Australia had a open door policy, many singaporeans and other asian nationals would venture there and try to carve out a living there. Then the Aussie citizens would be royally pissed with a immense flooding from Asian foreign employees. -
To start with, I strongly agree to a large extent as to what the TS is stating, however, I suppose that certain words you had chosen to use is rather extreme to the point that it's offensive. I know how f***ed up you must be feeling now, but we should at least give them some decent respect as fellow human beings lest not we be considered as barbaric.
For those who can't really identify what's the problem with these "alien" talents, please read my humble opinion on this issue. As for "alien" talents who aren't really happy with my opinion, please forgive me and not read on. This post is meant to allow me to practise my freedom of speech, no offences.
Firstly, we have to bear a thing in mind, which is the defination of a true blue Singaporean. Being one would mean that we had spent most of our time progressing with and being molded under our nation. Most importantly, jingoism towards our nation.
Progressing with our nation would mean that those people who had stick with Singapore through thick and thin, had literally, grew up in Singapore through our education system or gone through the National Service as for males. Most importantly, we must not forget about the descendents of the forefathers who sacrificed a their lives and effort to shape Singapore to what it is today.
On the other hand, those aliens who had been allowed to step on our soil and hailed as "talents" may not have such love for our nation due to the fact that they are NOT Singaporeans in the first place. So, they(majority) are unable to pledge allegiance like we Singaporean does.
Just for reference, I would like to relate a true account of my teacher's experience with these "alien talents" in a social gathering.
My teacher was socializing with these aliens when they started the discussion about the living standards of Singaporeans. One of them commented that how shocking was it that among so many developed Asian countries, Singapore was the worst he had ever been to! He was relating that how pathetic we are to live in HDB (Housing Development Board) flats and even made comparisons of it with the cottages that poor people use to live in back in his country.
Another alien narrated his encounter with a Singaporean taxi driver and ridiculed his poor command of English. On top of that, this particular alien even sterotyped that every Singaporean, speaks English like him.
Out of patrotism and the role of being an authentic Singaporean, my teacher spent that whole night defending the truth and stature of Singapore and became the "rogue of the night", extremely loathed by those aliens.
From the above incident, I sincerely hope that you, the true owner of Singapore, to stand up and address to the danger that we are exposing ourselves to.
Just look at these aliens! They have no contact with our heritage and culture(which I doubt they are even interested in) and they know nothing about being a Singaporean. For example, they are unaware that HDB flats are a symbol of the welfare of our society which Singapore successfully helped
in housing our population. They even assumed that everyone of us speaks like a taxi driver uncle(come on, some taxi uncle speaks excellent English!) and even if we do, that's part of the unique culture that we induldged in!
In case you are still unable to spot the jeopardy by now, please read on.
I cannot deny the solidity that there ARE indeed "alien talents" among these outsiders and they are capable of driving of economic progression. Perhaps, there may be a day that the goverment find these aliens so beneficial that they start importing them into our motherland until we are out numbered by them. Again, perhaps when it is our children's time, they would be living under the expense of these aliens and be treated as a second class citizen in their own country!
To all Singaporeans I urge you people to please address to this issue that we are facing now and the issue that we may be facing in the future.
My final message to aliens; if you really think that Singapore's living standard is that unbearble, then f*** off. Please kindly crawl back to your own land and stop your scurrilous slammings of my motherland.
Thank you.