Originally posted by asdfzhao:
@ Blueray:
u remind me of lionnoisy. really. but you at least care to write paragraphs of comments. kudos to u.
firstly: who are you to judge if the news are real or distored? Are you involved in whatever was reported? Even if you had witnessed it, is it the entire picture? don't pass sweeping statements next time, they are weak arguments.
secondly: If you are a singaporean then maybe you will think that the human rights in China is ok. But actually, Singaporeans do not have a lot of human rights.
thirdly: would you kindly not stray away from the topic with your America-is-bad messages?
Thank you
If you have witnessed the event, your comments on the news will have more credibility than many who have never been to the place, even if you have not witnessed the entire picture, nor having full understanding of the situation. We shouldn't be thinking that only the ST is speaking for the Singapore government, but the western media, especially those from USA are 100% neutral and fully trustworthy. No?
American government uses all kinds of excuses to justify their actions overseas, a fake story about WMD was used in the UN, broadcasted to the whole world, to justify its military action against Iraq, but the ultimate objective was to secure oil supplies. Human rights is another excuse. There is no doubt that human rights problem exist in China, if there is still human rights problem in the US, let alone Singapore. American importers can ban imports of goods manufactured by children citing violation of human rights, but citing human rights problem for embargo of arms to China but announce record sales of arms to Saudi is indeed a mockery to human rights. The american never seems to remember that they trained OSAMA Bin LADEN, a Saudi.
In the 60s, we heard of copies from Japan; in the 70s, we could buy fake Nike shoes from Korea, nothing from China, until it opened up in the 80s, and foreign investment went in to capitalise on its cheap labour force. So fake products are not new. The hungry businessmen are still looking for even cheaper costs, they moved from Indonesia, vietnam and then China, all in the name of higher returns to investment and globalization.
If you were forced to cut costs to survive, what do you do? you continue to cut cost, replacing with cheaper raw materials. Your american buyers would accept products with grade B raw materials so long if prices are cheap. After all, things these days are not made to last. Then came the limit, there are only that many replacements you can use. you either close shop like the Nike suppliers in Indonesia with 12000 workers on the streets, or ..... Like training OSAMA, the americans trained the PRC manufacturers, only to find themselves receiving the unwanted end of the deal.
PRC Chinese have no access to the distribution chain of the genuine products in the US, no PRC manufacturers shipped directly to wholesalers, no PRC traders can sell directly to the Nike boutique in the US. So how do fake products landed in the US consumers??
ever seen the angmoh carrying bags and bags of cheap bargains from Xiu Shiu Jie in Beijing or Xiang Yang Market in Shanghai?
No demands, no supplies.
Fake products are sold at a fraction of the original prices, and must be produced in large quantities. These two factors combined suits the China local market. It should be noted that the main victims of fake products are the PRC consumers. While we leave the PRC government to handle such unethical business practice that harm their own people, would we stop supporting the rich and greedy MNC from the west from exploiting the cheap labours around the region, including China? what can we do to Microsoft who pay programmers in RUPEE to write the program and sell it back in India in US$?
China, the factory of the world, turned into a land of fakes, certainly not due to communism, so how? better human rights practice would not stop, kpkb definitely won't help.