malay prayer on fri noon
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my situation is that they wasted 1hr 10mins of my time waiting for them for stuff to be done.Originally posted by ^tamago^:they dun work for one hour u will die is it? -
It's their right to pray. We need to be tolerant about these things.
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the actual muslim `service' is on the friday itself. the imam in all the masjids across singapore will deliver the khutbah or sermon. the sermons are basically weekly reminders, sometimes admonitions, sometimes advice regarding muslims living in non-muslims environtment and sometimes general current affair issues are brought up, recently the organ donation issue.Originally posted by Icemoon:Actually when is the main Muslim "service"? It cannot be on friday noon 'cos the time is too short for any interaction!
Shouldn't the more important prayer be on thursday evening? That is when Muslims welcome the "sabbath".
Islam got concept of "cell group" or not? Or at least a community where you belong, where the members encourage one another in the faith and study the Qu'ran together.
muslims do not welcome the `sabbath' on thursday night. i noticed the word sabbath here is used for the meaning `rest' , but that's not what it means. sabbath is a jewish word meaning seven or the seventh day whereas in arabic the seventh day is called yaumul sab'ah. sabbath in jewish, sab'ah in arabic. and which day does the jews worship on?? saturday which is the seventh day of the week. and which day does the seventh day adventist christians worship on?? also saturday. muslims worship on friday, yaumul jumah, meaning day of gathering, which is the sixth day of the week. and it only takes 2 hrs, not the whole day, and after the prayers we are told to go about our bussiness as per normal. there are no `off' days in Islam like saturdays or sundays, and it is also not necessary to declare friday as an off day like they do in some muslim countries.
i'm not familiar with the concept of `cell' group. but we Muslims are encouraged to learn the deen (the way) of Islam from where the sources are available to us. for eg now masjids in singapore hold weekly classes and talks on various topics. i live in jurong and i can go to pasir ris to get the knowledge, just like i can go to any other masjids that are holding these talks or classes. or sometimes these classes are held in homes, where the muslims will gather in one of these homes generally once a week to learn the deen. -
Your head. Don't try to spread misconception.Originally posted by OneDoubleManTayar:muslims do not welcome the `sabbath' on thursday night. i noticed the word sabbath here is used for the meaning `rest' , but that's not what it means. sabbath is a jewish word meaning seven or the seventh day whereas in arabic the seventh day is called yaumul sab'ah. sabbath in jewish, sab'ah in arabic.
I'm more acquainted with Judaism than the average person. In Hebrew, the word does mean 'rest'.
http://www.jewfaq.org/shabbat.htm
Shabbat is primarily a day of rest and spiritual enrichment. The word "Shabbat" comes from the root Shin-Beit-Tav, meaning to cease, to end, or to rest. -
my head? no need to go that far. u have given me information contrary to what i wrote. i looked it up, u're right and i'm wrong. not wanting to spread misconceptions here.Originally posted by Icemoon:Your head. Don't try to spread misconception.
I'm more acquainted with Judaism than the average person. In Hebrew, the word does mean 'rest'.
what i tried to put across was, friday is not a `rest day' or sabbath as u would put it, for the muslims. we we're told, in the quran, that when the prayer call is made on friday, we should stop our bussiness dealings, and go to the masajid for our prayers. and after that we can continue with our worldy affairs. -
So friday (evening thursday to evening friday) has no special significance?Originally posted by OneDoubleManTayar:what i tried to put across was, friday is not a `rest day' or sabbath as u would put it, for the muslims. we we're told, in the quran, that when the prayer call is made on friday, we should stop our bussiness dealings, and go to the masajid for our prayers. and after that we can continue with our worldy affairs.
I did not mean that friday is a rest day or sabbath. Notice I was careful to put them in quotes. Since it is more or less sabbath for the Jews and Christians, I presume a similar idea exists in Islam.
After all .. Islam copied and reinvented the Judeo-Christian faith. -
The seven day week is from the Gregorian Calendar.
How did the Islamic yaumul jumah, meaning day of gathering, which is the sixth day of the week, coincide to be the Gregorian Calendar's Friday? -
Sigh, its already a generally accepted practice. Even in secondary schools, muslim boys are allowed to go for prayers and then come to school at about 1:30 or 2pm or around that time.(Whether they abuse it or not is not our problem)Originally posted by leo-kun:my situation is that they wasted 1hr 10mins of my time waiting for them for stuff to be done.
If you have muslim workers or employees or muslims working for you, its a given. Any capable manager/employer etc.. should have known about this time lapse on fridays and then factored it in his/her planning/scheduling, instead of bit.ching about it.
Like what I hear in the office "Faliure to plan on your part, doesn't constitute an emergency on my part." -
whatever but i feel they should probably take care of the problem of illegal parking or obstruction due to prayers(whatever religion)
basic courtesy and laws. -
aiya .. pple also anyhow park due to non-religious reasons. As long as there is a big event and not enough parking space, people will anyhow park.Originally posted by hisoka:whatever but i feel they should probably take care of the problem of illegal parking or obstruction due to prayers(whatever religion)
basic courtesy and laws. -
but normally those events police or whatever will do something. and its a once off or very seldom thing. these however is every week. the main thing is dun cause problems for others lah. park illegally i dun realy careOriginally posted by Icemoon:aiya .. pple also anyhow park due to non-religious reasons. As long as there is a big event and not enough parking space, people will anyhow park.
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hurhur.Originally posted by leo-kun:my situation is that they wasted 1hr 10mins of my time waiting for them for stuff to be done. -
Right. The only difference between friday and other days is the obligatory friday prayers. Calling it a muslim sabbath isnt really an accurate explanation since it is not a rest day but good enough for a quick understanding.Originally posted by Icemoon:So friday (evening thursday to evening friday) has no special significance?
I did not mean that friday is a rest day or sabbath. Notice I was careful to put them in quotes. Since it is more or less sabbath for the Jews and Christians, I presume a similar idea exists in Islam.
The Quran says the sabbath is for jews only.
*Coughs*
After all .. Islam copied and reinvented the Judeo-Christian faith.
Sorry la for some of the friday disruption. The muslims guys arent slacking in the mosques or sth. We only hear the 10 mins sermon (uninspiring btw), pray together after, then CIAO. -
But how come the prayer must be in the mosque?Originally posted by Gauze:Right. The only difference between friday and other days is the obligatory friday prayers. Calling it a muslim sabbath isnt really an accurate explanation since it is not a rest day but good enough for a quick understanding. -
Why this topic being brought up? Religion is a complicated issue. If you are here to criticise the muslims, then you're making a very very big mistake because we are surrounded by muslim countries. Not necessary malays are only muslims around. We have chinese,indian,ang mo who are muslims as well.