New weapon systems?
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It doesnt matter to Singapore whether the apaches belong to Army, RSAF, or RSN. Cos the SAF is supposed to fight as a combined force, and not as individual forces. Which means, the Big boss "bombarder" general, which me-sa thinks, will get any Big Boom Boom he wants, regardless the service.
Other than the "jar jar binks" part, the rest is what was told to me by a senior ranking officer i happen to know. So I won't argue with him. =) -
Thanks Joe Black for the pictures! The SAF Armour family will really be much more powerful after acquiring anyone of these monsters! I am a tank commander myself,this is in response to recoil. Well if you think the Bionix is cramped? Wait till you try out the SM1 !!! The BX in my opinion is huge! I think all the tankees out there can agree with me,yes? Well I think that the SM1 is unsuitable for modern warfare as it is simply too old despite the upgrade in the 80's. However, I do have great pride in being a tankee! The SM1 is not all useless though.The accuracy of the old 75mm main guns is still pretty impressive,despite the fact that alot of the firing procedure is manually done. Gentlemen we have touch mainly of the replacement for SM1 but what about the other vehicle which I have mention earlier? Please comment,Thanks
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I was told that the Apache was bought using the fund allocated for the army coz it a platform use for supporting the ground force. This reulted in some of the army procurement plans to KIV.Originally posted by Shotgun:It doesnt matter to Singapore whether the apaches belong to Army, RSAF, or RSN. -
What is KIV?
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Any information on any new anti-aircraft missile systems being bought recently? I guess the missile launcher vehicle is used for AA purposes but I can't be sure. Any comments on a missile launcher on a M113?
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Probalbly an rbs 70 mounted on an m113Originally posted by tankee1981:Any information on any new anti-aircraft missile systems being bought recently? I guess the missile launcher vehicle is used for AA purposes but I can't be sure. Any comments on a missile launcher on a M113? -
Don't know if SAF has any M113 armed with some sort of SP Air arty. It wouldn't be a bad idea. My ideal choice would go to the LAV-AD turret, with the GAU-12/U 25mm and Mistrals combo.
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Er........actually we got V200 mounted with RBS 70 missile.
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The missile launcher on the the M113 is definitely not a RBS 70 system. Its not the mistral either. It looks somehow like a rapier type of launcher with a small radar dish and two sets of missiles on each side of the machine. I think there is at least 2 on each side but can't be sure.
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Gentlemen, personally I chose the Textron 105mm turret over the rest of the pictures mentioned earlier. That is provided that the new light tank uses Bionix as the chasis. What are your views?
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Hey ! " Textron 105mm turret " u never knows how it will looks like
By studying bionx 25 / Textron 105mm turret we can derive some idea about the light armour vehicle.
Again will copy other foreign defense companies tank concept........pathetic
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The Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN) plans to purchase four mine sweepers to replace its ageing 'Mahameru' class mine sweeper.
Navy Chief Mohd Ramly Abu Bakar said on Monday the purchase would depend on the country's financial position although the life span of the 'Mahameru' class mine sweeper had almost lapsed.
"The existing mine sweeper had been in service for nearly 15 years. Maybe we'll do conversion and after conversion, the ships can be used for another 15 years," he said.
Mr Mohd Ramly was speaking to reporters after attending an international seminar on Mines Counter Measure in Kuala Lumpur.
Some 60 navy officers from foreign countries are attending the seminar, which will end on Wednesday.
The 'Mahameru' class mine sweeper bought from Italy in 1983 was the first in Southeast Asia with anti-magnetic features which reduces the possibility of the mine sweeper from exploding when passing through a danger zone. -
Could it be something similar to the Avenger system? Stingers mounted on a M113 chassis? The Crotale, from what I recall, has a similar profile as well, but both are quite unlikely. From what you said, its either a Rapier (Dun think the M113 will remain upright after launching one), Barak (I only know they launch in a vertical profile), or Stinger/Igla.Originally posted by tankee1981:The missile launcher on the the M113 is definitely not a RBS 70 system. Its not the mistral either. It looks somehow like a rapier type of launcher with a small radar dish and two sets of missiles on each side of the machine. I think there is at least 2 on each side but can't be sure. -
What about the ADATS SHORAD systems? -Originally posted by tankee1981:The missile launcher on the the M113 is definitely not a RBS 70 system. Its not the mistral either. It looks somehow like a rapier type of launcher with a small radar dish and two sets of missiles on each side of the machine. I think there is at least 2 on each side but can't be sure.
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/adats/
mounted on the M113 as well.
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The RBS 70 , swedish while The Mistral French.
It is clearly stated from "army technology" that this machine is Made-In-Switzerland.Furthermore,Both RBS 70 & Mistral are portable manpad missile system , i don't remember seeing any one of these on an armored vehicle -
The one which I saw is similar to them ADAT SHORAD system, however the sensing equipment and the missiles is smaller than the one shown in the picture above.
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I think might be the spark 2 missile.
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Eh... Please don't call IFV's and APC's tanks leh... Its misleading to those who do not have so much knowledge of these matters as you guys.
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LeFire, so how do you define an AFV and a Tank. What is the difference between the two category. I call the AMX-13 an AFV, it doesn't deserve to be called a tank.
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Well, I prefer to use these factors (Pls bear in mind that I'm not forcing them on anybody here)
APC = Armoured Personnel Carrier
IFV = Infantry Fighting Vehicle
AFV = Armoured Fighting Vehicle = Tank, APC and IFV
1.) Armoured and carries infantry = Is either a APC or IFV. (unless hybrid like Israeli Merkava)
2.) Designed to engage enemies while its infantry are on-board = IFV
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I so far define them this way.
Tanks: Tracked and Turreted Armored vehicles that take out vehicles and tanks w/ direct fire.
AFV: Armored, and armed vehicles, exclusive of Tanks. Can include IFVs and APCs.
IFV: Armored Fighting Vehicles specifically tasked to supporting infantry
APCs: Armored vehicles capable of transporting personnel on board through a battlefield while offering armored protection.
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Anyone seen a new hybrid tank on Singapore's road - near Chua Chu Kang area ?
It is about the size of a "Mr Bean's Mini", except that it is painted black - seems to be built of 'kevlar' bullet proof vest material to give its natural black color.
It is able to zip down the roadway at about 90kmh, and very quiet as it seems to run on electric powered hydraulic driven final drives.
The controls seems to be radio remote controlled from another vehicle that was seen following behind, with three soldiers in it, and the vehicle seem to have two steering wheels - one wheel to remote control the hybrid tank, and the other to control the 'chase vehicle', and an array of remote TV linked to onboard sensors and cameras on the hybrid tank.
Weapons seems to consist of some short barrel cannon, probably missile firing.
This could be Singapore's contribution to the high tech future soldier program.
"Self assuming Big Brother" to the north will have to figure this out.
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Remote controlled tanks??? KewlllL.. Just like arcade games. Maybe even have a self - destruct switch that detonates the tank.
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i say y dont we mount Spike Anti-tank missiles , a Digital high resolution surveillance camera and Global Position System on a light armour vehicle about the size of Mr bean's cars.its size allows some camouflage in the thick vegetation and can be easily parachuted into hostile areas.All movement will be control and monitor in a mobile command vehicle located faraway.Originally posted by Shotgun:Remote controlled tanks??? KewlllL.. Just like arcade games. Maybe even have a self - destruct switch that detonates the tank.