Could MM Lee. MP Baey Yam Peng be wrong to promote gay ?

• Mat Toro

  19 Jul 07, 10:01

  Originally posted by robertteh:

  Just a clarification:-
  
  I am concerned with gradual erosions of fundamental values in society. I am not in support of suppressing the gays or other outlandish traits among people in society but it could be quite different thing altogether to go further to go on promoting and championing them as the norm. I am in support of not suppressing their right as individuals which should be respected but just enough to let them carry on this life with some dignity.

  Why are you anti gay? You mean gays don't have values?
• boka

  19 Jul 07, 10:09

  A choice of gay is their personal rights.
  
  But u sure this is about promoting and not proclaming the rights of gay?
• AndrewPKYap

  19 Jul 07, 10:12

  Originally posted by boka:

  A choice of gay is their personal rights.
  
  But u sure this is about promoting and not proclaming the rights of gay?

  huh? I thot you a "I am holier than everyone alive fundamentalist" ?
• boka

  19 Jul 07, 10:14

  Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:

  huh? I thot you a "I am holier than everyone alive fundamentalist" ?

  Holy?
  u don't know me.
  
  It 's me to respect the rights of humans but to seek their destruction if they commit wrongs
• AndrewPKYap

  19 Jul 07, 10:19

  Originally posted by boka:

  Holy? u don't know me. It 's me to respect the rights of humans but to seek their destruction if they commit wrongs

  "wrongs" according to you, right? That would mean that you are a very Holy person wouldn't it? If you yourself are not holy why didn't you destroy yourself yet?
  
  1. Either you have double standards (one for yourself and one for others) or
  2. You have never committed any wrong doings... which makes you a very Holy person.
• boka

  19 Jul 07, 10:47

  Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:

  "wrongs" according to you, right? That would mean that you are a very Holy person wouldn't it? If you yourself are not holy why didn't you destroy yourself yet?
  
  1. Either you have double standards (one for yourself and one for others) or
  2. You have never committed any wrong doings... which makes you a very Holy person.

  I wun argue with u.
  
  But if one chose to be gay it is their rights and we do not have authority over their sexual orientation.
  
• AndrewPKYap

  19 Jul 07, 11:13

  Originally posted by boka:

  I wun argue with u.
  
  But if one chose to be gay it is their rights and we do not have authority over their sexual orientation.
  

  true also...
• qlqq9

  19 Jul 07, 11:45

  Originally posted by crazy monkey:

  so you are very moral ? never surf porn site in your life, never buy pirate cd never bet ? never litter ?

  Please talk lsense and not attempting to flame here. YOu sound like a kid. WE are talking serious matters here, and obviously this is not a playground for kids to come here and play.
• robertteh

  19 Jul 07, 13:53

  Originally posted by Mat Toro:

  Why are you anti gay? You mean gays don't have values?

  I am not anti-gay as I too agree that we should decriminalize existing discriminations against gays for employments or holding of certain public offices under any laws against gay.
  
  I only cautioned that while attempting to open up there seems to be a tendency to go the other extreme as seen in government's caving in on IR and open prostitution. Such a tendency should be resisted.
  
  There should be a proper safeguard not to lose our fundamental values for the rest of the populace as well if we must open up more.
  
  We should open up sensibly and sensitively so as not to go the other extreme of openly promoting gay's other activities like gay marriages or exhibiting homosexuality as a norm of society because we do have the mainstream fundamental values to preserve for the larger good of society.
• crazy monkey

  19 Jul 07, 19:42

  Originally posted by qlqq9:

  Please talk lsense and not attempting to flame here. YOu sound like a kid. WE are talking serious matters here, and obviously this is not a playground for kids to come here and play.

  you ARE a kid wat. i have to talk in kids language for you to understand
  
  lol
• qlqq9

  19 Jul 07, 22:11

  Originally posted by crazy monkey:

  you ARE a kid wat. i have to talk in kids language for you to understand
  
  lol

  reading from other posts here, your words are not valued here. Period.