Prof Jayakumar reprimanded Sylvia Lim for conspiracy theory
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When they raise their million dollars salaries by hundreds of thousands, people are supposed to STFU but they get to criticize sick people for staying in class C wards.
When they want to raise taxes direct and indirect, nobody is supposed to question them.
When an MP ask them to explain and clarify in Parliament, they accuse them of conspiracy theories instead of giving a convincing answer.
We know so many like that in this forum... wayang wayang and accuse people of defaming the gamen and so on instead of addressing the issues. So it turned out that we can expect such tactics from people that have no qualms taking public money to live a luxurious life as well...
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Why are we arguing over such things, (where there's no concrete effects from the parliament talk).
When ... other countries are facing corrupted judiciary system, from mata to PM.
When .. other countries don't even know what the hell their government is doing.
Not apathetic, just my own opinion. -
Which country in the world, the ministers pay themselves so much for luxurious living and complain about sick people going to class C wards? I think you are apathetic, IMHOOriginally posted by shilin:Why are we arguing over such things, (where there's no concrete effects from the parliament talk).
When ... other countries are facing corrupted judiciary system, from mata to PM.
When .. other countries don't even know what the hell their government is doing.
Not apathetic, just my own opinion. -
I will be blunt, are you a coward who is too afraid and too stupid to face the truth?Originally posted by shilin:Why are we arguing over such things, (where there's no concrete effects from the parliament talk).
When ... other countries are facing corrupted judiciary system, from mata to PM.
When .. other countries don't even know what the hell their government is doing.
Not apathetic, just my own opinion.
You know, there are times when I wish I can be a bit liberal with Darwinian Natural Selection and use it very liberally. -
you dont stop questioning just because something is better.Originally posted by shilin:Why are we arguing over such things, (where there's no concrete effects from the parliament talk).
When ... other countries are facing corrupted judiciary system, from mata to PM.
When .. other countries don't even know what the hell their government is doing.
Not apathetic, just my own opinion. -
x2Originally posted by dragg:you dont stop questioning just because something is better.
i cant believe everyday there are people who take things around for granted
didnt gahmen tell us to continuously strive for improvement?
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not a step backward, but a quantum leap.. seems like jaya doesn;t fully understand the the constitution...er.. maybe there isn;t one..Originally posted by maurizio13:A step backwards for the legal system.
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Just as arrogant and autocratic as before, nothing changes about their ways. Control as much as they can so they can stay in power forever, worst than those emperors in China in the ancient times.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Utter arrogance.
The Law Minister has no right to threaten an NCMP with a Commission of Inquiry just at a whim or fancy.
If he can substantiate his points with facts, then we shall talk. If not, it's just throwing a whole bunch of hot air. This is politics, and if there is a perception like this, then it must be addressed, not telling the person who raised this to sit down and shut up.
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"Her comments drew a sharp rebuke from Prof Jayakumar.
"Ms Sylvia Lim, through her speech, is in fact resurrecting ... a conspiracy theory," he said. "
What proof does this jayakumar have to make such a statement as above? Accusation? If Sylvia were to make a statement like that, believe jayakumar will pursue the matter and arrange for law suit against her. This ruling party really!!!! Ye man! Mr Jayakumar, if you have no proof, please don't point your finger at her. By doing so, you are not gaining respect and trust from the people of Singapore. You know the law, you know that to make such a statement you must have proof, where is your proof? -
It is OK, everything is working out fine as they have so much control to make sure they stay in power forever and ever.Originally posted by Calvin86:I think the PAP still think its the pre-internet days where they can do what they want.
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that's the way they are treating singaporeans, as MM did mention about treating . . . . as children.Originally posted by HyperFocal:You know, the way parents frightens a child not to go into a dark place without explaning why but just admonishing; "eee,, dark dark there, got monster in there don't go!"
Very similar.....
But don't you think Sylvia knows where to thread and where not to thread?
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Very true . Law exist to protect their selfish interest so they can stay in control and do whatever they can to their advantage. They think Singapore belong to them only and they have the say but not the people or NCMP.Originally posted by Fingolfin_Noldor:The law in this land exists only to serve the state and not the people. Period.
Really tired and sick of their ways of treating the people and running the country. Their interests are above the interest of the people. -
PAP is a bully. I wouldn't be surprised if one day the suppressed do fight back... with a vengence.
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Oh wow... our "elected" president. Everyone knows he is just a highly expensive rubber stamp with no mind of his own; if he has one.Originally posted by linchiling:Offering a different perspective, Nominated MP Thio Li-Ann noted that although the Prime Minister would be given new powers, there would also be a "series of checks and balances" — the Elected President would have to approve those appointed by the Prime Minister.
Tanjong Pagar GRC MP Indranee Rajah, a practising Senior Counsel, also singled out the President's role. -
It is sheer pathetic irony the innocent manner that Law Minister Jayakumar attempted to project with his statement concerning the entire legal system that has been cleverly designed by his own Mentor.
The fact that the PM pick his men is clear, and having the men's name submitteed to the President, who is supposed to act on his own discretion is similarly of little consequence - as the President is also ''selected by the influentially strong unseen hands'' in the PM's Ruling Party.
The Chief Justice is similarly handpicked by the PM and proposed for the ''consideration and approval'' by HIS President, supposedly acting on ''his own discretion''.
With all the men hand picked by the PM's office is it any wonder that even the uninitiated get a whiff of the strong smell of conspiracy ?
When JBJ was persecuted by the Parliamentary Privilege Committee, nearly 98% of the Committee were stuffed by MPs from the Ruling Party.
Even a Primary School kid will know that fairness can hardly exist when one is judged by those whom he had derided.
Singapore a member of the First World Community ?
Not by a long shot when the politics practised in Singapore is no better than that of North Korea or Zimbabwe at worst, and similar to Communists China at best. -
Originally posted by Atobe:
Well, it's their own people in it, thus how credible can it be! and do we trust the present PM for his choice, really questionable! Some said it is worst than a communist country, China.
It is sheer pathetic irony the innocent manner that Law Minister Jayakumar attempted to project with his statement concerning the entire legal system that has been cleverly designed by his own Mentor.
The fact that the PM pick his men is clear, and having the men's name submitteed to the President, who is supposed to act on his own discretion is similarly of little consequence - as the President is also ''selected by the influentially strong unseen hands'' in the PM's Ruling Party.
The Chief Justice is similarly handpicked by the PM and proposed for the ''consideration and approval'' by [b]HIS President, supposedly acting on ''his own discretion''.
With all the men hand picked by the PM's office is it any wonder that even the uninitiated get a whiff of the strong smell of conspiracy ?
When JBJ was persecuted by the Parliamentary Privilege Committee, nearly 98% of the Committee were stuffed by MPs from the Ruling Party.
Even a Primary School kid will know that fairness can hardly exist when one is judged by those whom he had derided.
Singapore a member of the First World Community ?
Not by a long shot when the politics practised in Singapore is no better than that of North Korea or Zimbabwe at worst, and similar to Communists China at best.
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We aren't arguing, we're digging up dirt and expose it to the view of the voters!Originally posted by shilin:Why are we arguing over such things, (where there's no concrete effects from the parliament talk). -
on that report, parliament voted for some issue.
unsuprisingly, the vote was 74-2.
those 2 against was Mr Low and Mr Chiam.
PAP MPs dont dare to oppose any issues
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Originally posted by pearlie27:We aren't arguing, we're digging up dirt and expose it to the view of the voters!
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[quote]Originally posted by qlqq9:
thanks for info. I don't subscribe to STs, as I find that there are loads and loads of crap in there and full of propaganda. I only buy STs on Sundays. [/quote
is the same, u dont subscribe but u still read,ST -
vote Jaya out the next time, he can anyhow reprimand ppl, so what is the use of parliement, cant question anything, if u question more it is conspiracy, this is called democratic country ? ppl will laughOriginally posted by Calvin86:I think the PAP still think its the pre-internet days where they can do what they want.
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Since when in Singapore's history was she ever a Democracy???Originally posted by t_a_s:vote Jaya out the next time, he can anyhow reprimand ppl, so what is the use of parliement, cant question anything, if u question more it is conspiracy, this is called democratic country ? ppl will laugh
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He will use the 6-man grc to get in by blocking with another heavy-weight minister. That is precisely the reason for increasing the size of GRC to 6.Originally posted by t_a_s:vote Jaya out the next time, he can anyhow reprimand ppl, so what is the use of parliement, cant question anything, if u question more it is conspiracy, this is called democratic country ? ppl will laugh -
Originally posted by t_a_s:
When I read I read the ST artcles posted here or from asiaone.com. I don't waste my money subscribing to STs. Sometimes gotta read to know what is happening, for eg, GST hike.
[quote]Originally posted by qlqq9:
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thanks for info. I don't subscribe to STs, as I find that there are loads and loads of crap in there and full of propaganda. I only buy STs on Sundays. [/quote
is the same, u dont subscribe but u still read,ST[/b]
Is there any problem that I read STs and not subscribe to it? Any problem? Must make police report about this or not? -
he is not the only one. In fact, there are many like him in the ruling party. So shall people vote all these people out?Originally posted by t_a_s:vote Jaya out the next time, he can anyhow reprimand ppl, so what is the use of parliement, cant question anything, if u question more it is conspiracy, this is called democratic country ? ppl will laugh