SDP is SINGAPORE DEMORALIZE PARTY.
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Guys,
as LaserLordz said, shall we IGNORE Mr Mat Terok?
Everywhere he appears, he causes threads to become flaming threads, which is not good for everyone in this forum.
Since our dear moderators refuse to respond and help to kill off a KNOWN troll, then let's not let him cause us any more anguish, shall we? -
i'm in "switch off" mode...too tiring to respond already.....Originally posted by soul_rage:Guys,
as LaserLordz said, shall we IGNORE Mr Mat Terok?
Everywhere he appears, he causes threads to become flaming threads, which is not good for everyone in this forum.
Since our dear moderators refuse to respond and help to kill off a KNOWN troll, then let's not let him cause us any more anguish, shall we?
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Actually we are forgetting the most effective thing:
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You can't even teach your girl stay still my fren. How can you hope to teach us anything?Originally posted by LazerLordz:Check your facts.
Sadly, I cannot teach the unwilling. Nor educate the stubborn. -
PAP is too smart for you my fren. They even left you wondering what happened don't they?Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:Erm you seem to be missing the point, the answers you given do not really answer the question at all.
So are you accusing the PAP of conspiracy to break electorial laws by covering up electorial fraud in the fundings of the SDP for their own ends, or that they are too incompetent that they don't know about it? -
Did he? Where? please show us.Originally posted by bigmouthjoe:Yo MAT IDIOT.
CSJ has revealed his sources of funding before, if YOU don't believe him, isn't the onus on YOU to prove that CSJ is indeed receiving foreign funding instead of alternative sources? -
+1Originally posted by Mat Toro:Did he? Wheblahblahblah -
Originally posted by Mat Toro:PAP is to-blahblahblah. They eve-blahblahblah
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Finally, people start to see the idea of ignoring him totally.
If only this forum had an ignore member button. -
Sylvia Lim has caught the hearts of all Singaporeans. CSJ used to be like Sylvia Lim. Unfortunately, he lost it along the way somehow, especially after SDP lost Chiam who is also loved by the people.Originally posted by bigmouthjoe:Fortunately, people are now learning to differentiate and seperate him from the other opposition parties.
Fortunately, people knows that CSJ is not the only opposing voice around, despite the government's attempts to portray all Oppositions in the same light. -
Is this the best response that a mental handicap can cope with the facts presented ?Originally posted by Mat Toro:
Original post by Atobe:
I detect a note of envy in your tone.----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Huh?! Envy of Chee? You must be crazy.
I guess we cannot expect any higher standards judging from the standards displayed. -
Originally posted by Mat Toro:
You can't even teach your girl stay still my fren. How can you hope to teach us anything?Originally posted by Mat Toro:
PAP is too smart for you my fren. They even left you wondering what happened don't they?Originally posted by Mat Toro:
It is obvious that despite the Mat having been stamped on repeatedly, will continue with his socially obnoxious ways - as seen in his present efforts at not even attempting to be controversial with some unique provocating ideas - as some other more ''brilliant ones'' have attempted.
Did he? Where? please show us.
To ignore him completely is to succumb to his efforts to shut down any reasonable debate.
We could selectively engage him on more substantive matters and expose the ''spastically fraudulent ideas'' that he is only capable of, without having to burn the thread. -
World owes US a debt, says Gordon BrownOriginally posted by wisefool83:But if the authorities traced his IP to this forum, then the entire forum will be shut down liaoz and we will finally all meet each other.......in the defender stand.
outright admission of obvious fact.
Open, frank, honest are characteristics of a strong leader, your new PM. congratulations. -
Originally posted by Daddy!!:
Did he lose it along the way, or was the mass media manipulated to paint him in a different way that draws public revulsion towards him ?
Sylvia Lim has caught the hearts of all Singaporeans. CSJ used to be like Sylvia Lim. Unfortunately, he lost it along the way somehow, especially after SDP lost Chiam who is also loved by the people.
The government has been ''playing'' with ''mass psychological manipulative methods'' - as can be seen in the month long preparations on the mass media that culminate in the ''mass hysteria'' seen in the final National Day hurrah.
If one is to trace the differences in methods used to deal with CSJ compared to ''political knuckle-dusters'' used towards JBJ in the 1980s, and the ''political steel rods'' against the luminaires from the Barisan Sosialis in the 1960s through 1970s - the manner in dealing with CSJ is more subtle.
The efforts in handling CSJ is in the indirect manipulation of mass media in subtle moulding of the public opinions and views towards CSJ - with carefully selected ''catch-words'' and ''labels'' that sticks onto CSJ personally.
It is as if a kid in school is stucked with a label for the duration of his school life, or that of a Recruit stuck with a label throughout his NSF.
Did ''SDP lost Chiam'' or is it more accurate to say ''SDP kicked Chiam out'' ?
''SDP losing Chiam'' indicate that Chiam left on his own accord, or that Chiam choose to be recruited by some other party in favor of the SDP that he created in the 1960s.
According to events that transpired, CSJ was maligned by his NUS Faculty Head - Dr Vasoo (an old-guard from the Ruling Party) - who had approved his expense claims more than a year ago before CSJ stood for election, but will later pull these papers out to accuse CSJ of cheating the NUS.
One must surely ask - Why did the NUS Faculty Head not vetted the claims a year ago before CSJ declared his candidacy to stand for elections under the SDP banner ?
According to the charges made by the NUS Faculty Head - CSJ had over claimed his taxi fare travelling from the NUS to some Child Care Centre for his research on child behavior - claiming some $1 to $2.00 extra, when the ''usual'' taxi fare from the NUS to the CCC should cost some X-fare.
One must surely question the idiocy of such a statement - as on different days, subject to traffic conditions, and on the many different routes that a taxi driver can take - the same trip between the NUS and CCC can cost differently.
The other cheating claim levelled at CSJ - was the charge that CSJ had included his wife's doctoral research together with his research for assessments by an Overseas University - both being sent under NUS funds, when his wife is not employed by NUS.
CSJ had claimed that his wife's doctoral research had formed part of the body of his research, and that it was not uncommon for such joint efforts and deliberate researches to be made.
CSJ went on hunger strike in protest for these false charges - which Chiam did not approve nor supported to the chagrin of the SDP Chairman Ling How Doong and the SDP Executive Committee and members.
One event led to another, and Chiam was then asked to leave.
However, Chiam held a press conference that deepened the antagonism between him and his Executive Committee, leading the SDP to call for a vote to kick Chiam out.
Did CSJ make any direct efforts to back-stab or play politics with Chiam to usurp Chiam's Chair ?
Or was the fact of the matter being that the events and circumstances of the tumultuous clash between CSJ and Dr Vasoo - resulted in the SDP seeing Chiam for what he truly is, and caused SDP to abandon Chiam in favor of CSJ - as Chiam was already seen to be ineffective in Parliament for more then 10 years ?
This was heavy material grasped by any political opportunists to use to black tar CSJ - who was then the most credible threat from a new generation, one that was equally qualified to be recruited even to the Ruling Party - (and which CSJ had stated that he was courted by his faculty head to join the PAP but declined).
If CSJ is what he is today, it is largely due to the raw political medicine that the Ruling Party had dispensed to deal with CSJ's decision in not accepting the hand that looked after him at NUS. -
Yes, that is they best possible response to you my fren.Originally posted by Atobe:Is this the best response that a mental handicap can cope with the facts presented ?
I guess we cannot expect any higher standards judging from the standards displayed.
How can anyone be envious of a silly guy like Chee? you are indeed crazy. -
I found the interview that BMJ was talking about. It's an interview with CNN for christ sake, OMFG you mean you cannot even find it? You are a loser.Originally posted by Mat Toro:Did he? Where? please show us.
Just felt I had to comment as you are so lazy and stupid. -
Dear learned Atobe,Originally posted by Atobe:It is obvious that despite the Mat having been stamped on repeatedly, will continue with his socially obnoxious ways - as seen in his present efforts at not even attempting to be controversial with some unique provocating ideas - as some other more ''brilliant ones'' have attempted.
To ignore him completely is to succumb to his efforts to shut down any reasonable debate.
We could selectively engage him on more substantive matters and expose the ''spastically fraudulent ideas'' that he is only capable of, without having to burn the thread.
judging from the way the obnoxious fool responded to your posting, don't you think you are wasting your time and efforts?
A couple of us have gone into ignore mode, for the fact that this fool is very good at throwing one-liners at everyone, despite postings that are of meaning and of interesting opinions addressed to him.
So why waste time with a fool? A priceless item (ie your knowledge in this case) can be viewed in 2 ways
1) priceless to people who knows its value and thus is deemed of a value beyond any possible pricing
2) "priceless" to a fool who does not know its value and treats it as a piece of garbage (no value coz its garbage to him).
The best way of handling such a person is to report to the authorities of this certain person whom is accusing the govt of a conspiracy with CSJ, which is tantamount to defaming the reputation of our Govt. -
You see, once these fellas lose in debate, they ran.
Please go ahead. Please report me to the authorities. I'm cool babe. -
Hahaha, I've often read about how obnoxious you are baby.Originally posted by Mat Toro:You see, once these fellas lose in debate, they ran.
Please go ahead. Please report me to the authorities. I'm cool babe.
For someone who couldn't even find a simple article you have hell lot of balls to conclude that they have lost.
I can hear you shrieking while you ran away Mat. Come back baby. -
just FYIOriginally posted by bangkokboy:Hahaha, I've often read about how obnoxious you are baby.
For someone who couldn't even find a simple article you have hell lot of balls to conclude that they have lost.
I can hear you shrieking while you ran away Mat. Come back baby.
this baby, after tremendous pressure from us, only tried once to post an article link, which was totally out of point with what we were discussing.
Other than that, all his postings are based on his own myopic view, and he had the audacity to make himself sound as if they are all facts.
So ya, I think he should be demoted from childish/immature, to a baby. -
All? All -1 can? Cause I think her speech too fierce le, like want to chop people up like that. I prefer Steve, except for the fact that he cheated on his wife before.Originally posted by Daddy!!:Sylvia Lim has caught the hearts of all Singaporeans. CSJ used to be like Sylvia Lim. Unfortunately, he lost it along the way somehow, especially after SDP lost Chiam who is also loved by the people. -
well, my opinion is that she is minister or even PM material, coz she has the ability to speak and has the sort of assertiveness that a leader should have.Originally posted by wisefool83:All? All -1 can? Cause I think her speech too fierce le, like want to chop people up like that. I prefer Steve, except for the fact that he cheated on his wife before.
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Fierce is good. We need someone that is fierce, Chiam is too reserved and gentlemanly la. As for Steve, mmmh...Originally posted by wisefool83:All? All -1 can? Cause I think her speech too fierce le, like want to chop people up like that. I prefer Steve, except for the fact that he cheated on his wife before. -
Each has his own preference bah, Steve's personal life may appear to be dodgy to most, but to me, a personal's life often has no link to his political thoughts and actions, we are afterall chossing a MP, not a husband or wife.Originally posted by bangkokboy:Fierce is good. We need someone that is fierce, Chiam is too reserved and gentlemanly la. As for Steve, mmmh... -
I like Steve. He showed that Singapore is an advanced democracy because we are begining to see flashy people and sex scandals in politics.
You people ought to be more open minded as we advance as a democracy.
Sylvia kinda ugly, not pretty enough. Not enough flash factor. Talk a bit artificial.
Chiam and Low quite steady.
Chee hopeless, too stupid. Singaporeans won't support him like that.