LOL, repeating the same line over and over again hardly has an effect on anybody you know.Originally posted by Daddy!!:So Atobe, did you meaningfully help him (chee) out? Of course, unless, you are chee himself.![]()
Most people, including myself, dont have the time to go through all the threads. thats why, i would suggest to hard cores like yourself to start a thread which contain ONLY those information you think "helps to clear the air" and "objective ones".Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:In my opinion Chee's an activist, not a politician. If there is a method to his madness or if it is just sheer madness is something to be speculated on, but the points he has raised are quite valid once a person stops and take a look on them beyond the flash and flair.
The thing is, agree or disagree, the issues he has raised need to be talked about as opposed to be disregarded as completely irrelevant to Singapore, and indeed people are now talking about them. There is something seriously disturbing about a very the consitution of a nation that justifies its own existence on the vote of the people have its leaders spread the notion that the vote of the people isn't the most important thing as long as there is survival.
Please refer to the tens of thread in this forum on this issue by many people who have spoken their piece, and you can get an idea of how they want Singapore to change.
Maybe there is a response. Thats why USA sends out space probes every now and then.Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:LOL, repeating the same line over and over again hardly has an effect on anybody you know.
What makes you think I'm a hard core?Originally posted by Daddy!!:Most people, including myself, dont have the time to go through all the threads. thats why, i would suggest to hard cores like yourself to start a thread which contain ONLY those information you think "helps to clear the air" and "objective ones".
i read several threads. tiresome.Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:What makes you think I'm a hard core?
The difference between you and me is that I don't demand for instant answers, but take the time to read through threads, see the debates, and then decide for myself the truth of the matter.
Indeed as the saying goes, "he who does not want to walk the path for the truth is not interested in it to begin with"
Plenty of stuff has already been posted here (if you leave out the funny posts) in this very thread that ought to give you enough information to make a basic opinion of Chee or Singapore is some measure, and yet you demand a menifesto?![]()
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There is also another aspect to it, such as a person who keeps asking "what does blue smell like?"Originally posted by Daddy!!:Maybe there is a response. Thats why USA sends out space probes every now and then.Hello, anyone out there ? Our solar system is right here !
If that is the case, then you have no right to ask or pass comment about it.Originally posted by Daddy!!:i read several threads. tiresome.
+1Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:Actually I stopped taking him seriously long ago, he's just fertile ground for parody and entertainment for the forum.
I say we kick him down a well!![]()
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Actually I don't mind hiring foreign talent such as new zealanders or finnish to come over to Singapore and run our govt.Originally posted by Daddy!!:So I guess I am reasonable to assume that you would rather let a foreign and more democratic/less oppressive power to rule over singapore?
you are not making efforts to understand then.Originally posted by Daddy!!:i read several threads. tiresome.
NZ has the same population like Spore but the minister in NZ less paid than here.Originally posted by soul_rage:Actually I don't mind hiring foreign talent such as new zealanders or finnish to come over to Singapore and run our govt.
They are
1) Cheaper (a FACT)
2) Presumably better (given that their standard of living is better than SG)
Most of those bunch of clowns up there are earning too much. Using FT will cut off unnecessary costs by retrenching these bunch of clowns and use it for the poor
To them, I guess Ah Chiam is a good opposition coz he no longer can cause any pain to them.Originally posted by Atobe:Well said...
Every drop of water makes an ocean - more so when there are only one working member and one sleeping member from the Alternative Parties in a 84 seats Singapore Parliament.
It is amazing that we can accept the opinion of the Ruling Party that only credible persons should be in Parliament - and only those whom they see as credible will qualify.
It seems that the Ruling Party will want Singaporeans to accept the likes of either a hardworking Low from WP but who is ineffective in his verbal delivery, or a congenial Chiam from SDA who would rather be polite and accomodating then be resourcefully forceful on so many matters of public concerns.
Are the MIW filled with qualified and credible persons in Parliament - past and present MP who have represented Singaporeans ?
At least three were found to be corrupt - one committed suicide, one jailed, and one absconded from justice - and at least three more were quietly moved out under murmurs of moral misconduct that were best discreetly disposed.
Why should we submit ourselves to the arbitrary standards of the Elitists, who are certainly not altruistic in keeping their positions less exclusive ?
Anyone who is not mentally insane, or found to be morally unacceptable by the standards of the Singaporean Heartlanders is qualified to represent Singaporeans.
Did you really feel a pain in your ass? its sore from the bull horn right? I bet it is.Originally posted by HyperFocal:Everybody, we all should do well to ignore this Toro fellow...
he's here picking verbal fights with everyone, and in effect, distracting every topic...
this I believe is his objective...
from here henceforth, EVERYONE please ignore his caustic remarks...
so far, as evident in every thread, he's proven to be nothing but a pain in everyone's ass...
Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:Me still around. You just can't beat me in decent debate. Thats why you need the antics.
[b]Actually I stopped taking him seriously long ago, he's just fertile ground for parody and entertainment for the forum.
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Originally posted by soul_rage:Chiam is the best. He's a gentleman.
To them, I guess Ah Chiam is a good opposition coz he no longer can cause any pain to them.
Kiang can speak but to say he sincere also not correct because he is merely playing on people's emotions. The fact that he did not discipline Gomez spoke loud and clear about his character.
Ah Kiang is still ok. Yes he may not speak well, but he has the sincerity
I don't care what you call them. Blck cat or white cat, as long as can catch rat is a good cat.
And as for the 'Elitists', I would like to add the quotation, becoz they THINK they are elites, but that's from their own mouths.
What have you done for the people?
To date, what have they done for the people, except for the usual verbal praises that they give to themselves repeatedly? They are only riding on the glories of yesteryear.
lol, why not? whatever it is, I can go anywhere, unlike you, who can only hide in a forum and brag that you are a $10million businessmanOriginally posted by Mat Toro:What have you done for the people?
You are either ignorant or ungrateful. I suggest you go migrate somewhere and don't come back.

haha, ya you are the ultimate winner bragging about $10million and behaving like a kid.Originally posted by Mat Toro:Go ahead, please go. Where can you go? who will accept a loser like you?
you see, i knew it, nobody wants a panty sniffer like you.Originally posted by soul_rage:haha, ya you are the ultimate winner bragging about $10million and behaving like a kid.
don't cry hor... poor baby
that was Gazelle, little babyOriginally posted by Mat Toro:you see, i knew it, nobody wants a panty sniffer like you.
You Can't Handle The TruthOriginally posted by Mat Toro:you see, i knew it, nobody wants a panty sniffer like you.