SDP is SINGAPORE DEMORALIZE PARTY.
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Picture this.You are small size and the bigger kids in your neighborhood dont like you(in fact they farking hate you!) so your parents send you to Karate/Judo/Taekwondo classes plus they dress you up like a hockey goalkeeper and then put a baseball bat in your hand when you play outdoors.These things dont come cheap you knowOriginally posted by t_a_s:waste $$$, spore cant fight, why spend so much on defence
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How is it that the preference for "$10Billion SGD spend on Defence, than spent on some 'Mega Project' like Malaysia" become a preference for "war over liberty, death over rational thought"??Originally posted by gigi5:You prefer war over liberty, death over rational thought. Your attitude will keep PAP spending billions on weapons and less on your health care and education. people like you will keep the radical cave-shittting bastards in the business of attacking us. Have you not learn anything from Iraq war?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jldRWPJmdoM
In what way does spending on defence become a prefence for war and death? Is spending on "Mega Projects" like those in Malaysia a rational thought?
The need for national defence is to protect the sovereignty of Singapore, and the freedom (liberty) of Singaporean. the fact that Singapore is small in a rather volatile neighborhood requires us to be prepared than others. All these are necessary to prevent war, not to encourage it. And this is rational.
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LOL!Originally posted by bigmouthjoe:At least he can... count?
lionnoisy:
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The govt is very smart. They could have gotten Chee out of the way but they choose to purposely keep him a round because he ruined SDP by what he is doing. most Singaporeans just take him as a clown.
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How much "more constructive" exactly can you get when your media and press is crippled by the ruling party?Originally posted by Mat Toro:I think Chee shld change strategy and be more constructive in his criticism of the govt.
Dr chee is always brilliant in his speeches and always hit the spot.
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i thought he meant malaysia as a "mega project"...and not mega projects in malaysia.Originally posted by sgdiehard:Is spending on "Mega Projects" like those in Malaysia a rational thought?
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SINGAPORE IS A POOR, DEMORALIZED, FRIGHTENED NATION!!!! LISTEN TO TONY BENN FOR GOD SAKE!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CbUzKlmp-x8
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Well, the truth is, Singaporeans still look at him as a clown because of what he said and how he behaved.
Its obvious that Chee is only anti and driven by hatred for PAP. He offered no solution for alledged problems he brought up and some people simply used him to highlight their own grivevances.
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No... I prefer the capability to protect myself and my Country against anyone who wants to harm us.Originally posted by gigi5:You prefer war over liberty, death over rational thought. Your attitude will keep PAP spending billions on weapons and less on your health care and education. people like you will keep the radical cave-shittting bastards in the business of attacking us. Have you not learn anything from Iraq war?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jldRWPJmdoM
Liberty and hope of peace didn't prevent the japanese from attacking S'pore during WWII. Just like 'acting blur' and trying to keep the Terrorist (cave-shittting bastards) 'happy', won't mean we will be any safer in the end....... or do you prefer to cover-up your woman and pray 5 times a day when told to...... No one can protect you if you don't want to do it yourself. -
seems like some ppl behave like tat here.Originally posted by Mat Toro:Well, the truth is, Singaporeans still look at him as a clown because of what he said and how he behaved.
Its obvious that Chee is only anti and driven by hatred for PAP. He offered no solution for alledged problems he brought up and some people simply used him to highlight their own grivevances.
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yes, many of those anti govt people learn from Chee. He is their idol and they worship him.
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Yes, we noticed that too. Thank you for confirming that. But it is unfair to keep bring up that joker CSJ... and ignore Francis Seow.Originally posted by crazy monkey:seems like some ppl behave like tat here. -
Maybe we should learn from someone instead?
Encouraged by the determination of fellow former political prisoner Said Zahari to unveil the other side of history, SingaporeÂ’s Dr Lim Hock Siew has also decided to publish his memoirs.
Although I have told my story in a documentary film many years ago, I have decided to write it down myself in the form of memoirs like my ‘good brother’ Said,” he told malaysiakini during an exclusive interview in Kuala Lumpur.
“I am now conducting research to find out more newly declassified materials in London to link up more dots,” added the 76-year old founding member of Singapore’s now ruling People’s Action Party (PAP).
Lim was detained without trial for almost 20 years from 1963 to 1982. (Which makes him the second longest-held political prisoner in Singapore after Chia Thye Poh)
According to him, although he was alleged to have participated in the activities of the so-called ‘Communist United Front’ in Singapore from the mid-1950s to early 1960s, he was never formally charged in any open court of law for the allegation.
“I still remember even my police interrogators told me that they knew I had never been a member of any communist party or group,” said Lim who was a central committee member of the opposition Socialist Front in Singapore at the time of his arrest.
He was detained during the 1963 Operation Cold Store, which saw more than 130 leaders of opposition parties, labour and student unions and journalists deemed to be left wing held as well.
“Now, from all the already released records in London as well as other historical researches, it is clear that in launching Operation Cold Store, Lee Kuan Yew was serving the then strategic interests of Britain which wanted Singapore to continue to provide a forward military base in Southeast Asia,” said Lim
“It is also now an undeniable fact that Lee worked earlier for the Japanese military during the Occupation making Britain’s English materials available in Japanese-language for the occupiers,” he added. -
haha putting words in other people's mouth? What if I tell you I think he is a joke? Is that a slap across your face?Originally posted by Mat Toro:yes, many of those anti govt people learn from Chee. He is their idol and they worship him. -
I am not a political martyr, I am a patriot who has lost
his country and virginity.
Do not wave a cane at me for vandalising your propaganda
with technicolour harangues,
- Alfian Sa'at
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Chee a joke? Sometimes. Thats why govt keep him around so he can continue destroying opposition.
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Fortunately, people are now learning to differentiate and seperate him from the other opposition parties.Originally posted by Mat Toro:Chee a joke? Sometimes. Thats why govt keep him around so he can continue destroying opposition.
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The reason Chee is still around, is because they can't put him away from anything more serious than holding public speeches without permits. Chee is also versed in the Law and will be more than happy, if the government takes action against him...Originally posted by Mat Toro:The govt is very smart. They could have gotten Chee out of the way but they choose to purposely keep him a round because he ruined SDP by what he is doing. most Singaporeans just take him as a clown.
I think Chee shld change strategy and be more constructive in his criticism of the govt.
I believe Chee, is THE ONLY person who dares to stand still and let the government shoot him in the head... for all the world to see...
He knows as much as some of us here, that the gov is just doing as well asnot doing, a lot of things just for show...and just to appear "Fair" and "Righteous"... -
I asked for your clarifications on your remarks,Originally posted by gigi5:i thought he meant malaysia as a "mega project"...and not mega projects in malaysia.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jldRWPJmdoM
"How is it that the preference for "$10Billion SGD spend on Defence, than spent on some 'Mega Project' like Malaysia" become a preference for "war over liberty, death over rational thought"?? In what way does spending on defence become a prefence for war and death? Is spending on "Mega Projects" like those in Malaysia a rational thought?
What have you learned from the Iraqi war?"
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Chee is the only person who dare shout at GCT, others are like akuah, pondan, no balls, he is brave, this is the way opposition should behave, not worry or scare of them. He is smart, that is why PAP wants to knock him out, ppl like Francis Seow,JBJ, Tang Liang Hong are smart ppl, PAP want to destroy them, Low and Chiam are moderate ppl, not so smart, so PAP not scare of them.Originally posted by Mat Toro:Well, the truth is, Singaporeans still look at him as a clown because of what he said and how he behaved.
Its obvious that Chee is only anti and driven by hatred for PAP. He offered no solution for alledged problems he brought up and some people simply used him to highlight their own grivevances.
Thats why I said, Chee shdl change strategy and stop killing his own party. -
Do you know what you are talking?Originally posted by t_a_s:Chee is the only person who dare shout at GCT, others are like akuah, pondan, no balls, he is brave, this is the way opposition should behave, not worry or scare of them. He is smart, that is why PAP wants to knock him out, ppl like Francis Seow,JBJ, Tang Liang Hong are smart ppl, PAP want to destroy them, Low and Chiam are moderate ppl, not so smart, so PAP not scare of them.
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So why so few people support his party?Originally posted by bigmouthjoe:Fortunately, people are now learning to differentiate and seperate him from the other opposition parties.
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CSJ is one of the victims of toxic leadership !
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SDP and CSJ can go 'Bungkus' lar.......these type of ppl wanna lead our country....how sg wanna vote for opposition if opposition got this type of person?? at least WP and SDA are trying to do something.......
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Sometimes I wonder who pays for Dr Chee electricity bills,transportation and makan(Ok forget about makan cuz this guy can really tahan without food).It takes a lot of guts or should I say "Chee" to go head on with a Garmen like Singapore.What is his personal agenda or is he just another clone for wayang? Wonder when is the next show ar?