Channel U Shoot 3: ex-convicts
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one question in the show make everyone of us to be reflected on.
is singaporeans forgiven? or singaporeans forgetful? -
Cai Shenjiang's words that 'if you do have confidence in society, why do you still hide behind that veil', is what I think is true. Your analogy isn't good, but I do get your meaning. I do understand that what Cai Shenjiang did is quite insensitive and perhaps even harsh but you cannot deny the truth in his words.Originally posted by snow leopard:which part makes sense? care to share which part is true?
the ex-convict already explained his predicament, that in unveiling himself, he may be subjecting his family to society's gossips. never mind his family doesn't mind. what is impt is that he minds what happens to his family.
still that fatty cai shen jiang put him in a difficult position so much so that he unveiled himself.
i give you another analogy. you are at a dinner party and you already said you are driving and cannot drink. this fatty comes along and say "come on, one glass lah, no harm" ... then 2, 3, 4 glasses ... before you know it, you have exceeded the limit and end up crashing into someone.
no doubt you weren't firm enough in declining others. but don't you think that fatso is a signficant accomplice who got away scott free?
As for your analogy, it is YOUR choice to drink or not. At the end of the day, YOU are the decision-maker. YOU alone is responsible if you crashed into someone. Besides, if YOU decides to drink, YOU should know that YOU shouldn't be driving at all.
As I said, it is ultimately the guy's decision whether he wants to comes out or not. He had a choice to make, and he chose to come out. I think it is very brave of him. I wish all the best to the guy, honestly. -
Channel UOriginally posted by dreamykite:what's the name of the show, which day and time it was shown?
Shoot 3
Thursday
8 pm
There's a repeat at around 11 pm i think
Don't really watch it. This is the only episode i've caught so far and possibly my last one as well ... -
didn't catch this one ...Originally posted by foodpal:one more guy i dont like. the one who interviewed the gar lang gu nee. yesterday show. he is a bloody kpo, he goes and ask the gar lang gu nee howmuch he earned. asking people do you believed that the gar lang gu nee is a millionaire just bcos the gar lang gu nee lives in a pte house. Why he so kpo. jealous that people living in pte housing ah. the pte house could be an asset left behind by his parents mah
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the conclusion from the show was that the ex-convict must forgive himself which didn't quite address the real issue, which was how to get society to accept them.Originally posted by 798:one question in the show make everyone of us to be reflected on.
is singaporeans forgiven? or singaporeans forgetful?
in the end, i suppose there's no answer and whatever it is, life goes on ... -
what he say may be true, but what he say has harmful consequences to the other person. is it right to say all you like, knowing it will cause grave harm to the other person?Originally posted by Slipshade:Cai Shenjiang's words that 'if you do have confidence in society, why do you still hide behind that veil', is what I think is true. Your analogy isn't good, but I do get your meaning. I do understand that what Cai Shenjiang did is quite insensitive and perhaps even harsh but you cannot deny the truth in his words.
so while i never denied the truth of his words, those words don't do anyone any good so is in fact worthless. since Cai's words have harmful implications to the other person, he is in fact being very irresponsible, which is what i'm saying. why say things to harm people only to make yourself look good?
let's add to the story by saying that you're so drunk you drove off without even knowing what you're doing. of course the police won't buy your story, but if we suppose it were true and somehow it can be proven, then the only fault you have is with drinking in the first place.Originally posted by Slipshade:As for your analogy, it is YOUR choice to drink or not. At the end of the day, YOU are the decision-maker. YOU alone is responsible if you crashed into someone. Besides, if YOU decides to drink, YOU should know that YOU shouldn't be driving at all.
As I said, it is ultimately the guy's decision whether he wants to comes out or not. He had a choice to make, and he chose to come out. I think it is very brave of him. I wish all the best to the guy, honestly.
that leads us to ask who is that idiot who made you drink in the first place. again, you may say it is entirely up to you to choose not to drink in the first place. but what if the person asking you to drink is an important customer who can either make or break your business? do you still say no?
life is never so simple and we are seldom a master of our own wishes. as the chinese saying goes "we in society cannot do as we please".
In any case, what is important for us is to realise that many of our actions are affected or influenced by people around us. So when we see a person's actions and judge him on the basis of those actions, do we also see his accomplice edging him on by the side? isn't he the more sinister of the two?
remember the murder case involving some Mr Ler who managed to convince some kid to commit murder on his behalf? we cannot condone the kid who committed the murder, neither should we condone Mr Ler.
so while it is his and his decision alone to unveil himself, we must not forget that it was cai tao kuay who edged him on. -
the regular panelist guy cai guy, I am not sure his background. I think not simple you know.