Singapore is PAP and PAP is Singapore.What you guys think?
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Last time whenever i said the Singapore national pledge, my mind was quite innocent and so my mind was like this...
We, the citizens of Singapore
pledge ourselves as one united people,
regardless of race, language or religion,
to build a democratic society,
based on justice and equality,
so as to achieve happiness, prosperity and
progress for our nation.
But after afew years of mature thinking, now my mind was thinking like this...
We, the citizens of PAP
pledge ourselves as one PAP people,
regardless of race, language or religion,
to build a PAP society,
based on justice and equality,
so as to achieve happiness, prosperity and
progress for our PAP.
Actually the National Pledge was written by Sinnathamby Rajaratnam in 1966 shortly after Singapore's independence. Mr Rajaratnam revealed that the dream was to build "a Singapore we are proud of". He believed that language, race and religion were divisive factors, but the Pledge emphasises that these differences can be overcome if 'Singaporeans cared enough about their country. '
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore_National_Pledge
But never did Mr Rajaratnam lived to this day to see..., it is not that Singaporeans did not cared enough about their own country, but Singaporeans are not given the freedom to choose their own leaders, to voice out their own opinion without been label as a opposition members, or worst been label as a traitor of Singapore.So, whoses at fault now?We or the 'government' of Singapore? -
Well said.
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Originally posted by joola74:
If you want to oppose them yet you scared kena labelled as opposition members; if you don't know the difference between anti PAP and anti Singapore, you become anti Singapore because you scared to anti PAP; if you can't sing Stand up for Singapore because you can't stand up for what you think, ....then it is your fault, not the gahmen!
But never did Mr Rajaratnam lived to this day to see..., it is not that Singaporeans did not cared enough about their own country, but Singaporeans are not given the freedom to choose their own leaders, to voice out their own opinion without been label as a opposition members, or worst been label as a traitor of Singapore.So, whoses at fault now?We or the '[b]government' of Singapore?
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Who says Singapore is PAP and PAP is Singapore? -
Bit sick of the same thing over and over. Next please.
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sheesh!
wtf are you trying to say? huh?
DON'T EVEN SAY THAT EVEN IN JEST!!
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Originally posted by joola74:
Every morning i have to say the pledge in school
We, the citizens of Singapore
pledge ourselves as one united people,
regardless of race, language or religion,
to build a democratic society,
based on justice and equality,
so as to achieve happiness, prosperity and
progress for our nation.
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...to build a democratic society...achieve happiness, prosperity and progress?
Professor Umbridge says I must not tell lies -
My sec sch teacher told me that in sg, the line between political party and country is somewhat blurred......opposing PAP plans would seem like opposing sg's progress......
ya....back wen i was in sec sch......sum Social studies teachers sure tell you more than what text books show.... -
don't you people ever feel tired of bashing PAP, why not, do yourself a favour, go to youngpap website to bash them, or visit workers party website to bash at PAP, i am sure, they will be more than willing to welcome you
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seems like more ppl are hating PAP
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I love Singapore and I do not support the PAP's ideology.
Never fall into the mistake of labelling PAP = Singapore. That would be a grave insult to the ordinary Singaporeans who helped built her up. -
And then.... WTF, can we all do??? Start a 500,000 strong riot???
We can only wait for them to pass on....! -
I love Singapore too. But PAP ah.... It's another matter...Originally posted by LazerLordz:I love Singapore and I do not support the PAP's ideology.
Never fall into the mistake of labelling PAP = Singapore. That would be a grave insult to the ordinary Singaporeans who helped built her up.
I agree that PAP is not equal to Singapore. We cannot deny that some of their policies have been effective, yet we cannot deny too that some of them are mere "fantasies".
Singapore is built up by us citizens, not PAP. -
The problem is that PAP is making people losing faith and hope in the country as we have no way to topple them without risking everything and please dont say we can vote them out easily, esp with all these GRC crap and etc -
Its true, its the government that is sovereign, not the people(which should be the other way round). The government decides EVERYTHING and anything without limit and at will.
Even though Some of the policies are seemingly reasonable, there is no doubt that when you are talking about Singapore, you are effectively referring to the PAP. -
ya, imagine next month they increase GST to 15%Originally posted by ulquiorra87:Its true, its the government that is sovereign, not the people(which should be the other way round). The government decides EVERYTHING and anything without limit and at will.
Even though Some of the policies are seemingly reasonable, there is no doubt that when you are talking about Singapore, you are effectively referring to the PAP.
imagine they make NS to be 5years
imagine they increase price of electircity/water by 50%
What can you do? whine for some time, accept it and then get used to it......
So it's really true that "The government decides EVERYTHING and anything without limit and at will."
edit: typo -
PAP..
They're frighteningly much like a cancerous tumour; leave it alone it will kill you, try to remove it, it will be painful and might kill you too... -
leeches...does it rings the bell?
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I hope one day we can see the pledge changed to :
We, the citizens of Singapore
pledge ourselves as one united people,
regardless of race, language or religion, OR OPPOSITION PARTY
to build a democratic society,
based on justice and equality,
so as to achieve happiness, prosperity and
progress for our nation. -
SORRY....Should be POLITICAL PARTY not OPPOSITION PARTY....
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One look at the title and I will say NO.
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Singapore eventually will be yours if you have the capability to run it...
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nothing new really
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Actually I think more likely to be because the people who hate PAP are being attracted to this place.Originally posted by FBI:seems like more ppl are hating PAP -
that is correct, especially those who got no materials to argue or debate, ended up just here, scolding, cursing the PAPOriginally posted by wisefool83:Actually I think more likely to be because the people who hate PAP are being attracted to this place. Actually I believe generally more and more Singaporeans are not accepting everything the government says. The PAP will have a lot of work to do if they want the next election to be equal or not worse than the last.