Study abroad but 'make future here' - Ng Eng Hen
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Our future lies with the people. They are the only ones who can and must decide what kind of government do they want for the future.Originally posted by fishbuff:i will only consider going back to singapore when the whole Lees family is dead and gone.
Even if majority for the time being are unable to vote because of GRC and all the politically motivated civil libel suits and media control, people must prepare the ground for the future change.
Internet is the place eventually people will learn all the truths and when the time comes like the NKF and the ministers' pay issue they will rise and make the change. -
What he meant was to park your money, assets and CPF in Sg so that they could take care of them for you.
Really.
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I attended a major midwestern university in the US back in the early 90s.
I was a member of the campus' Singapore Students' Association during that time, and we typically had about 20 members each semester. The new arrivals would usually indicate a strong desire to return to Singapore at the conclusion of their studies, but almost all of them would apply for jobs in the US following their graduations, and most of them would get hired.
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I think it is always good for Singapore tudents to look for job overseas and gain some experience before returning to singapore.Originally posted by Meia Gisborn:I attended a major midwestern university in the US back in the early 90s.
I was a member of the campus' Singapore Students' Association during that time, and we typically had about 20 members each semester. The new arrivals would usually indicate a strong desire to return to Singapore at the conclusion of their studies, but almost all of them would apply for jobs in the US following their graduations, and most of them would get hired.
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ha ha ha!!! $$$ matters!!!! oh la la!!!Originally posted by charlize:What he meant was to park your money, assets and CPF in Sg so that they could take care of them for you.
Really.
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I notice the generation have changed. In the 80's and early 90 perharps. but as time progress that generation is gone. Personally i think SG provide a good work experience for global business. I would not necessary throw it out the window.Originally posted by Meia Gisborn:I attended a major midwestern university in the US back in the early 90s.
I was a member of the campus' Singapore Students' Association during that time, and we typically had about 20 members each semester. The new arrivals would usually indicate a strong desire to return to Singapore at the conclusion of their studies, but almost all of them would apply for jobs in the US following their graduations, and most of them would get hired.
Not sure if the same situation is still happening now at other universities here.
I think from a career perspective in a limited life time you either specialized in a field than proceed a region. Than you have to pick a region and language u want to specialized in. -
Originally posted by Lin Yu:Apparently, the reason why most people study aboard is that they are unable to get a place in the local universities. look into this reasons and most of these problems can be solved.
most of them returns home because this is where our roots are. give them a reason to some back -
If he had just graduated, where got any money assets, CPF to park in Singapore? waiting to takeover the parents one lah....Originally posted by charlize:What he meant was to park your money, assets and CPF in Sg so that they could take care of them for you.
Really.
so much you can say about love for family and roots for these people. -
it really depends on wat r u looking in life..we're more n more like global citizen...making a living n settle down in country tat u r not born in is a norm liao..its really no big deal..
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... figures...Originally posted by charlize:What he meant was to park your money, assets and CPF in Sg so that they could take care of them for you.
Really.
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The reason is simple for asking all thse locals to come back casue they are talents n can contribute to Spore.
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You know, I stare at the word FUTURE, and all I can see is that the future in Singapore are largely meant for foreigners...
Oh yes... people WILL study abroad as they doing so now... but hardly, they'd come back simply for the lack of future for locals...
All I can see is that the gov just wants to grow or at least sustain Active CPF Members...
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The allure of living in another country is surely one of the most attractive, with opportunities abound for those with the educational mobility to remain relevant to any industry.
The current crop of overseas graduates will definitely echo the sentiments of their predecessors, who chose to forgo their Singapore citizenship in favour of their adopted country.
Even in countries where taxes are high, crime rates are not as low as SG, the working life and family time afforded will certainly better its equivalent in SG.
The comments of Dr Ng:Echoing the sentiments, Dr Ng said: 'Home is what you feel; not what I say.' seems to be more corrective action on the part of the MIW, whose inital labelling of quitters had the reverse psychological response than expected, with a larger than anticipated crop of talent 'deserting' our shores to seek greener pastures.
Dr Ng should heed his own advice of 'not listening to what i say', but answering your instincts and personal feelings to make a wholesome decision. -
Originally posted by BillyBong:
I have never taken what he said seriously, just as a pinch of salt, for I doubt his capability. To me, I wanna say again, he is better off going back to be a surgeon in the hospital. How much has he contributed to help the local since he become the manpower minister? saw the TV interview, showed his normal day of work as minister/MP. From the way he works, he did not impress me as someone who is in politics to go all the way to serve the people, rather he is someone employed as a minister/MP and is just doing the job he is paid for, that is all! No passion!!! To me, he is more of a KS, KS minister/MP!
The allure of living in another country is surely one of the most attractive, with opportunities abound for those with the educational mobility to remain relevant to any industry.
The current crop of overseas graduates will definitely echo the sentiments of their predecessors, who chose to forgo their Singapore citizenship in favour of their adopted country.
Even in countries where taxes are high, crime rates are not as low as SG, the working life and family time afforded will certainly better its equivalent in SG.
The comments of Dr Ng:[b]Echoing the sentiments, Dr Ng said: 'Home is what you feel; not what I say.' seems to be more corrective action on the part of the MIW, whose inital labelling of quitters had the reverse psychological response than expected, with a larger than anticipated crop of talent 'deserting' our shores to seek greener pastures.
Dr Ng should heed his own advice of 'not listening to what i say', but answering your instincts and personal feelings to make a wholesome decision. [/b] -
Why is he Manpower Minister in the first place? His specialisation is surgery.
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The same analogy can be applied to RADM(NS) Lui, the MOS for education charged for sending agents to counter criticism in internet.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Why is he Manpower Minister in the first place? His specialisation is surgery. -
PAP loves to get doctors from public hospital to join them, the other example is vivian balakrishnan, he was a doctor and CEO of SGH before joining PAP. and ng eng hen is a surgeon in SGH. The last election they got the female malay doctor from SGH as a new PAP member. Just wonder, any more to come from SGH? That place SGH is a really bad place to work, adopt the style/management of that ruling party. Full of dirty politics.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Why is he Manpower Minister in the first place? His specialisation is surgery. -
well yeah, it comes down to how the government treats you. Middle income here, x level of quality of life. Middle income there, y level quality of life. With the same effort put in. Then, taking Australia for example, a Singaporean with Aussie PR has more hiring priority vs FT than over here in Singapore.
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Top draw for overseas grads who return: '2 Fs'
Family and friends are top reasons they come home
By Cassandra Chew
TIES THAT BIND: While they value work experience abroad, students (from left) Praveen Raj Kumar, Chen Yi Yang, Ho Joe-han and Kathryn Thong say they will ultimately return home - to Singapore. -- ST PHOTO: DESMOND WEE
MANY Singaporean students attending a career event here say they would prefer to remain abroad for several years after completing their overseas degrees.
But policymakers looking for the secret formula to draw them home need look no further than the 'two Fs' - family and friends.
An informal poll by The Straits Times of 40 overseas undergraduates who were at last Saturday's Confluence 2007 networking fair found that 14 of them, or more than one-third, plan not to return home for between one and five years after graduation.
The fair, organised by the students themselves, was meant to spread word of job prospects here. However, for those surveyed, the appeal of Singapore jobs at the fair was not enough of a draw - at least not yet.
Like first-year law student Ho Joe-han, 21, many view the time just after graduation as a window of opportunity to get valuable overseas working experience.
'When you have worked overseas with people who have different ideas and cultures, you show you are adaptable and can work with different types of people,' said the Durham University student, who wants to remain in England for at least three years.
But although working abroad is attractive to more than half of them, almost all consider Singapore home, and plan to return eventually.
Reasons vary, but the top one is that their friends and family are here.
Said Ms Chen Yi Yang, 20, an economics undergraduate in Britain: 'Family support and love cannot be measured, and cannot be replaced by anything superficial or material.'
Agreeing, Mr Praveen Raj Kumar pointed out it is 'intangibles' like family and Singapore culture and lifestyle that will draw him back.
The third-year student at Purdue University in Indiana, United States, has lived in five countries - including South Africa, the Philippines and Malaysia - but prefers Singapore.
'I've travelled from country to country, but I have a strange affinity for Singapore food. I will miss my laksa, mee rebus and roti prata,' said the 21-year-old.
'Ultimately, blood is thicker than water. You can always count on your family to be there for you,' he added.
These views were echoed by some students during the dialogue with Manpower Minister Ng Eng Hen at Saturday's event.
These findings should encourage agencies like the Ministry of Community Development, Youth and Sports, said researcher Elaine Ho, who recently completed her thesis on migration and citizenship among overseas Singaporeans.
'This shows that family values still matter a lot, and this acts as an emotional anchor, which is the most important thing,' said Dr Ho, who argues that 'dollars and cents don't make up everything'.
But for political researcher Jeanne Conceicao, economic opportunities are equally, if not more, important than emotional ties.
'Singaporeans are pragmatic. Family and friends might be one of their reasons for returning, but if there are no jobs, I don't think they would come back,' said Ms Conceicao, a research fellow at the Institute of Policy Studies.
However, Durham University graduate Kathryn Thong, 22, disagreed.
'If we do a cost-benefit analysis of everything, then we risk sacrificing things that are important to us,' said the first-class honours law graduate, who wanted to be home with her family.
'Economic situations can change, but this is my home country and as someone who has benefited greatly from its prosperity, I want to be able to give something back.'
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[quote]Originally posted by Lin Yu:
Top draw for overseas grads who return: '2 Fs'
Family and friends are top reasons they come home
By Cassandra Chew
TIES THAT BIND: While they value work experience abroad, students (from left) Praveen Raj Kumar, Chen Yi Yang, Ho Joe-han and Kathryn Thong say they will ultimately return home - to Singapore. -- ST PHOTO: DESMOND WEE
MANY Singaporean students attending a career event here say they would prefer to remain abroad for several years after completing their overseas degrees.
But policymakers looking for the secret formula to draw them home need look no further than the 'two Fs' - family and friends.
An informal poll by The Straits Times of 40 overseas undergraduates who were at last Saturday's Confluence 2007 networking fair found that 14 of them, or more than one-third, plan not to return home for between one and five years after graduation.
The fair, organised by the students themselves, was meant to spread word of job prospects here. However, for those surveyed, the appeal of Singapore jobs at the fair was not enough of a draw - at least not yet.
Like first-year law student Ho Joe-han, 21, many view the time just after graduation as a window of opportunity to get valuable overseas working experience.
'When you have worked overseas with people who have different ideas and cultures, you show you are adaptable and can work with different types of people,' said the Durham University student, who wants to remain in England for at least three years.
But although working abroad is attractive to more than half of them, almost all consider Singapore home, and plan to return eventually.
Reasons vary, but the top one is that their friends and family are here.
Said Ms Chen Yi Yang, 20, an economics undergraduate in Britain: 'Family support and love cannot be measured, and cannot be replaced by anything superficial or material.'
Agreeing, Mr Praveen Raj Kumar pointed out it is 'intangibles' like family and Singapore culture and lifestyle that will draw him back.
The third-year student at Purdue University in Indiana, United States, has lived in five countries - including South Africa, the Philippines and Malaysia - but prefers Singapore.
'I've travelled from country to country, but I have a strange affinity for Singapore food. I will miss my laksa, mee rebus and roti prata,' said the 21-year-old.
'Ultimately, blood is thicker than water. You can always count on your family to be there for you,' he added.
These views were echoed by some students during the dialogue with Manpower Minister Ng Eng Hen at Saturday's event.
These findings should encourage agencies like the Ministry of Community Development, Youth and Sports, said researcher Elaine Ho, who recently completed her thesis on migration and citizenship among overseas Singaporeans.
'This shows that family values still matter a lot, and this acts as an emotional anchor, which is the most important thing,' said Dr Ho, who argues that 'dollars and cents don't make up everything'.
But for political researcher Jeanne Conceicao, economic opportunities are equally, if not more, important than emotional ties.
'Singaporeans are pragmatic. Family and friends might be one of their reasons for returning, but if there are no jobs, I don't think they would come back,' said Ms Conceicao, a research fellow at the Institute of Policy Studies.
However, Durham University graduate Kathryn Thong, 22, disagreed.
'If we do a cost-benefit analysis of everything, then we risk sacrificing things that are important to us,' said the first-class honours law graduate, who wanted to be home with her family.
'Economic situations can change, but this is my home country and as someone who has benefited greatly from its prosperity, I want to be able to give something back.'
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Just another propaganda from the govt and the press. The accuracy of the article is questionable. Remember the press works for the gahmen and the gahmen is desperate for overseas Singaporeans to return, so publish such article. Why don't they go interview overseas Singaporean students who don't want to come back for good?
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If those student's family were in the same countries as they were studying, they will still choose to come back to Spore?
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how you know ? you work there ?Originally posted by qlqq9:PAP loves to get doctors from public hospital to join them, the other example is vivian balakrishnan, he was a doctor and CEO of SGH before joining PAP. and ng eng hen is a surgeon in SGH. The last election they got the female malay doctor from SGH as a new PAP member. Just wonder, any more to come from SGH? That place SGH is a really bad place to work, adopt the style/management of that ruling party. Full of dirty politics. -
Oh, the irony....Originally posted by Lin Yu:'This shows that family values still matter a lot, and this acts as an emotional anchor, which is the most important thing,' said Dr Ho, who argues that 'dollars and cents don't make up everything'. -
The big question is why the government's putting so much elbow grease into this cattle drive. With all the rhetoric about economic prospects and home being where the heart is, one might expect this kind of thing to sell itself.
Somehow, I'm reminded about the one time I got strong-armed to attend an MLM presentation. There was this guy on the stage, showing off his 1000-acre property, telling everybody about his cars and private jet. When he said, "once you get it all up and running, you don't have to work for your money anymore". I thought, "Well, that being the case, what the f*ck are you doing here?", got up and left.
Why did they call this shindig Confluence anyway? If it was supposed to be an amalgamation of Con and influence, they don't seem to have done very well at either. -
Originally posted by Meia Gisborn:Oh, the irony....
they always point one fingers at others but forgot that 3 fingers are pointing at themselves