Fare hike for public transport in October?
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For all these years, please, I beg you, tell me, which year is justifiable ???Originally posted by qlqq9:There is not going to be any stop to it for the gahmen and th PTC have insatiable appetite for greed and money.
Despite the yearly increase, the buses take long to arrive especially over the weekends. Thus I would say that fare hike is not justified. -
I regret informing you that none of these years are justifiable for the fares to be increased.Originally posted by ORIGAMIST:For all these years, please, I beg you, tell me, which year is justifiable ???
It has more to do with greed than any other reason that they increase the fare. -
Personally, if they can REALLY IMPROVE on their standards of service (punctuality, courtesy, & efficiency during peak hours), I can understand the frequent increments....
Admittedly, they have improved to some degree, but I say it ain't enough to match the frequency of their fare hikes....
it don't TALLY at all... -
now chiam si is bus nia
train sure come a few mths later -
no,no regret, you are just re-enforcing my point, the increase have never been justified and yet year after year we have to endure it.. where got meaning ??Originally posted by qlqq9:I regret informing you that none of these years are justifiable for the fares to be increased.
It has more to do with greed than any other reason that they increase the fare. -
You are right. first is the car - more ERP gantries are built and time extended, now bus, how can train don't follow ??Originally posted by FireIce:now chiam si is bus nia
train sure come a few mths later -
I think it is fair to say that , from a business perspective, increasing PROFIT is nobel. Its their ultimate purpose for existence. So, I think as a profitable organization, they are superb performers.Originally posted by qlqq9:I regret informing you that none of these years are justifiable for the fares to be increased.
It has more to do with greed than any other reason that they increase the fare.
I think this HIKE will be absorbed by the PEOPLE , the same way as the People have accepted it all the while. Perfect record. But this is 'i think' only lah. You guys see for yourselves if my prediction is correct that the HIKE will come true and everyone will accept. Just like the annuity. Eventually.
Singaporeans are like that. They are highly educated and very 1st world. They will accept. I bet my balls on this.
Count ourselves lucky. This kind of fare is just the beginning. We need to reach 1st world transport fare standard. In Europe, short trip (about less tha 5 km) by bus is about S$3. We still need to work towards that day.
Also, Taxi costs about S$80 to S$100 for short distance of say 8km.
See, ladies and gentlemen, the good thing about being declared a 1st world is that many BUSINESSES wil increase profit. And hope you get same increase in value.
As seen in above illustrations, Singapore transport has a lot of room for hikes. Is this GOOD or BAD? I leave it to you. YOU the PEOPLE are the ones affected.
I predict everyone will accept. Its very clear cut. Singaporeans are SMART.
I only hope people who will be paying more be vocal about demanding higher quality of service for the more expensive fares that they will be paying out of their own pocket for themselves and their children and dependents. And lets hope the fare hikes is for all forms of transport.
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Don't compare Singapore with Europe, it is irrelevant. Gahmen are forcing people to accept it unless they don't need to travel by public transport. YOu are expecting people to accept it?Originally posted by reddressman:I think it is fair to say that , from a business perspective, increasing PROFIT is nobel. Its their ultimate purpose for existence. So, I think as a profitable organization, they are superb performers.
I think this HIKE will be absorbed by the PEOPLE , the same way as the People have accepted it all the while. Perfect record. But this is 'i think' only lah. You guys see for yourselves if my prediction is correct that the HIKE will come true and everyone will accept. Just like the annuity. Eventually.
Singaporeans are like that. They are highly educated and very 1st world. They will accept. I bet my balls on this.
Count ourselves lucky. This kind of fare is just the beginning. We need to reach 1st world transport fare standard. In Europe, short trip (about less tha 5 km) by bus is about S$3. We still need to work towards that day.
Also, Taxi costs about S$80 to S$100 for short distance of say 8km.
See, ladies and gentlemen, the good thing about being declared a 1st world is that many BUSINESSES wil increase profit. And hope you get same increase in value.
As seen in above illustrations, Singapore transport has a lot of room for hikes. Is this GOOD or BAD? I leave it to you. YOU the PEOPLE are the ones affected.
I predict everyone will accept. Its very clear cut. Singaporeans are SMART. -
Taking a leave from Micheal Moore's film "Sicko", it is good to bear in mind the PUBLIC SERVICES SHOULD NOT BE RUN FOR PROFIT BUT THE GREATER PUBLIC GOOD.
KNNBCCB!!!
ALSO WHY MUST COMPARE TO FUCKED UP STATE OF AMERICA?! AMERICA IS NOT HEAVEN U KNOW -
Taxi fares should be rising next.
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Well, you can curse until the cow comes home.Originally posted by frakfrakfrak:Taking a leave from Micheal Moore's film "Sicko", it is good to bear in mind the PUBLIC SERVICES SHOULD NOT BE RUN FOR PROFIT BUT THE GREATER PUBLIC GOOD.
KNNBCCB!!!
ALSO WHY MUST COMPARE TO FUCKED UP STATE OF AMERICA?! AMERICA IS NOT HEAVEN U KNOW
Believe me, using the history of singapore fare hikes, I am qualified to predict 100% will accept. 100% successful implementation. Now and forever. -
then the bus operator say taxi raise fare, want to up the fare. SMRT say Bus go up, MRT losing profit, but up the fare. The taxi operator say the train and bus all can up fare, surely taxi can up fare. Then the bus operator...Originally posted by Y_Shun:Taxi fares should be rising next.
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Casino and luxury industry .Originally posted by Y_Shun:Taxi fares should be rising next.
Taxi mercedes.
Hike is absolutely positively very likely indeed.
If bus hikes, will MRT hike? Will Taxi hike? Why not? People can accept hikes after hikes for bus and MRT, what makes Taxi an exception? But not up to me lah. Let the Operators hike then you can experience the hikes. All coming in your face. -
There is a term for this : Chain Reaction.Originally posted by mistyblue:then the bus operator say taxi raise fare, want to up the fare. SMRT say Bus go up, MRT losing profit, but up the fare. The taxi operator say the train and bus all can up fare, surely taxi can up fare. Then the bus operator... -
endless vicious cycleOriginally posted by reddressman:There is a term for this : Chain Reaction. 
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Would there come a point where taking public transport in future will be the same as owning a small car or motor bike now?Originally posted by mistyblue:endless vicious cycle
Will hiking transport fares encourage the PEOPLE, the stakeholders to give up driving? If not, is ERP going for extension?
What a wonderful world. Full compliance. The singapore way. Absolute democracy. -
yawnz.......wat's new?
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Well, I am sorry to disappoint you. Nothing is new.Originally posted by Lin Yu:yawnz.......wat's new?
100% full compliance will be what you can expect. -
Since last year may, already expected it leh.
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That's why the gov increasing the ERP at the same times so that public transport will always be cheaper.Originally posted by reddressman:Would there come a point where taking public transport in future will be the same as owning a small car or motor bike now?
Will hiking transport fares encourage the PEOPLE, the stakeholders to give up driving? If not, is ERP going for extension?
What a wonderful world. Full compliance. The singapore way. Absolute democracy. -
because the cause of it has not been gotten rid of.Originally posted by mistyblue:endless vicious cycle -
Oh, i see. You mean comparatively. ha ha ha...Originally posted by royston_ang:That's why the gov increasing the ERP at the same times so that public transport will always be cheaper. Magic! -
Originally posted by reddressman:Oh, i see. You mean comparatively. ha ha ha... Magic! Nice magic!
Newspaper said they analysed the earnings of the companies. I presume that top SBS authorities should be paid top money too right? -
If only this chart can make it to main stream newspapers maybe we can call them neutral reporting !Originally posted by Gordonator:why must they raise the fare even-though they are making profits?
Ruling party mouthpiece wannabe Today, today said
' This is the third year in a row the PTC has approved hikes to public transport fares since a formula was devised in 2005 to determine such revisions.'
This is a carefully manipulated reporting to reduce the political fallout of the HIKE!
Why , why , why 2005 ??
DID FARE HIKES START FROM 2005 ?
NO ! -
who's next?
private school bus, then taxi, then who's next?