What does our flag mean to you?
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No nid.Originally posted by HyperFocal:Personally, they way this country is run...
they should just replace it with the PAP flag altogether....more fitting and appropriate...
Just take out the stars and moon.
Then add the thunder shape! -
blahblahblahblahblah. a flag is still a flag!
n i'm ashamed to be a singaporean in the 1st place!
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I am not a Singaporean in the first placeOriginally posted by 798:blahblahblahblahblah. a flag is still a flag!
n i'm ashamed to be a singaporean in the 1st place! 
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Time to hang the PAP flag.
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I suppose you don't need to be an idiot to realise the state and the ruling party (which entails just about every other state-operated mechanism) are indistinguishable in dictatorships, can you?Originally posted by the Bear:okay fuckheads!
the flag means EVERYTHING to me...
you asswipes who cannot differentiate between the accursed PARTY which you say you hate, and the country which is NOT the fucking PARTY are part of the problem...
SO FUCKING STOP DEFACING THE FLAG!!
and if you call me a troll, you are even bigger idiots than i can give you discredit for
After all, is it really possible to talk about the DPRK without making reference to the Workers' Party that runs the regime? -
And there you go, not making any effort to destroy that greyness that the PAP has put into place.Originally posted by walesa:I suppose you don't need to be an idiot to realise the state and the ruling party (which entails just about every other state-operated mechanism) are indistinguishable in dictatorships, can you?
After all, is it really possible to talk about the DPRK without making reference to the Workers' Party that runs the regime?
Admitting that it exists and not trying to reverse it in your own way, makes it similar to support for it.
Yes, I can talk of the DPRK, and of North Koreans who risk life and limb to cross the Yalu. That is not talking about the NKWP in a similar good light.
Sometimes, discourse is the sum of our collective consciousness. Don't get lulled into a Beckettian funk and believe that we cannot influence the narrative in which we live in. -
You don't distort the greyness when it isn't even grey to begin with, do you? How much more clearly demarcated do you want it to be? It's as black and white as you could humanly get. If anything, the only greyness you perceive to see is nothing more than a figment of your imagination that's nothing short of being delusional.Originally posted by LazerLordz:And there you go, not making any effort to destroy that greyness that the PAP has put into place.
Admitting that it exists and not trying to reverse it in your own way, makes it similar to support for it.
Yes, I can talk of the DPRK, and of North Koreans who risk life and limb to cross the Yalu. That is not talking about the NKWP in a similar good light.
Sometimes, discourse is the sum of our collective consciousness. Don't get lulled into a Beckettian funk and believe that we cannot influence the narrative in which we live in.
When you have a politicised Judiciary, with the roles of the Executive, and Legislative so intrinsically intertwined without being able to distinguish the seperation of powers, what's the difference between the party and the state? If anything, the legislations that exist here serve as nothing but a mockery of the brand of English Common Law which supposedly forms the basis of this regime's Constitution.
The DPRK isn't an isolated case - I suppose I could go on drawing a fairly extensive list that would cover regimes from Libya to Iran, Eritrea to Zimbabwe. That said, there's hardly any social consciousness to talk about when it is so blatantly evident that it'd be virtually impossible to seperate the roles of the state and the party. As a matter of fact, I'm just calling a spade a spade - after all, do you seriously think the Americans distinguish the party from the military or the state when they conduct their six-party talks with the DPRK?
Feel free to believe you're well capable of influencing the narrative outlined by this regime if you perceive it to be that - that's your opinion and one which you're perfectly entitled to. That said, I think it's no exaggeration on my part to suggest my views do not, by the any stretch of imagination, represent a minority of one. -
While I get your point, it is one that I must highlight, to be filled with cynicism and defeatism.
If no one is willing to even shed that tyranny off his own shoulder, nothing will even begin to happen. -
where someone hang the PAP flag , there will someone who hang the WP flagOriginally posted by Darkness_hacker99:Time to hang the PAP flag. -
That's just your call obviously and it's pretty much subjective, isn't it? Just as I don't regard your perspective to be any more pragmatic as you may choose to remain naively optimistic.Originally posted by LazerLordz:While I get your point, it is one that I must highlight, to be filled with cynicism and defeatism.
If no one is willing to even shed that tyranny off his own shoulder, nothing will even begin to happen.
As a matter of fact, while our civil discourse may not exactly establish a common consensus any sooner, I still view your brand of eternal optimism as no more foolish as you perceive me to be a defeatist. -
Of course I will be hanging all the opposition flags.Originally posted by Unidentified:where someone hang the PAP flag , there will someone who hang the WP flag
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where to buy WP flag?Originally posted by Unidentified:where someone hang the PAP flag , there will someone who hang the WP flag -
Well, whatever rocks our boats..Originally posted by walesa:That's just your call obviously and it's pretty much subjective, isn't it? Just as I don't regard your perspective to be any more pragmatic as you may choose to remain naively optimistic.
As a matter of fact, while our civil discourse may not exactly establish a common consensus any sooner, I still view your brand of eternal optimism as no more foolish as you perceive me to be a defeatist. -
At least, this civil discourse has proved more capable of withstanding the notion of the freedom of speech than some regime would permit...Originally posted by LazerLordz:Well, whatever rocks our boats.. -
Dunno.Originally posted by urbanmonkey:where to buy WP flag? -
WP HQ?Originally posted by Darkness_hacker99:Dunno. -
Originally posted by LazerLordz:WP HQ?
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Originally posted by LazerLordz:WP HQ?
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found this in Stomp...this guy got balls man!!!
http://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/viewPost4532.aspx
errmmmm....looks familiar isn't it? -
... well I'll just be hanging my laundry out to dry on that day.. -
I seen the MIW members wearing their polo.Originally posted by urbanmonkey:where to buy WP flag?
Does this mean no need apply permit to wear 'other' polo? -
It looks like the Cresent is eating up the little stars!!! Just like what is happening in Singapore!!!Originally posted by urbanmonkey:found this in Stomp...this guy got balls man!!!
http://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/viewPost4532.aspx
errmmmm....looks familiar isn't it? -
Originally posted by urbanmonkey:found this in Stomp...this guy got balls man!!!
http://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/viewPost4532.aspx
errmmmm....looks familiar isn't it?
yea he really got balls. -
yeah.. I think it looks more fitting with WHITE over RED...Originally posted by urbanmonkey:found this in Stomp...this guy got balls man!!!
http://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/viewPost4532.aspx
errmmmm....looks familiar isn't it? -
I think the moon should represent the people of Singapore or the number 7 (7% GST).
Like we're chopped you know.