PAP cause Mr Brown to lose his job (income) as columnist?
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Is that how it works in Singapore? You criticize them so that Singapore can be a better place for everyone, they make remarks that cause you to lose your job like in Mr Brown's case.
He was a columnist for the Today newspapers and lost his job.
Like when people criticized TT Durai, he sued them for defamation.
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Why people tolerate? .. because a majority of people here, have all their eggs in one nest - Singapore...Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:Is that how it works in Singapore? You criticize them so that Singapore can be a better place for everyone, they make remarks that cause you to lose your job like in Mr Brown's case.
He was a columnist for the Today newspapers and lost his job.
Like when people criticized TT Durai, he sued them for defamation.
How is it Singaporeans can stand this type or barbaric behavior?
and they are holding on too all the people's eggs...
That's why... -
hmmmm... the civil service holds the money and not the political party, right?
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Is there a DIFFERENCE?Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:hmmmm... the civil service holds the money and not the political party, right?
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What I meant was, if the whole party somehow disappears, Singapore, Singaporeans' money and the civil service remains, no?Originally posted by HyperFocal:Is there a DIFFERENCE? -
Absurd & outlandish as it may seem.. but nonetheless, a horrifying notion...Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:What I meant was, if the whole party somehow disappears, Singapore, Singaporeans' money and the civil service remains, no?
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just look at some of them who come to this forum to in their ways deter us from giving our feedback about the ruling party, you will know why they can stand the damn ruling party. Majority of singaporeans are fearful of them, the law in Singapore has instilled the fear in the people. Just read what I posted on the way they treat the SDP, we will know sometimes their doings and laws can be so bloody absurd. Law in singapore works/serves only one way. In chinese, we talk about tian li, the ruling party is the tian and the li in Singapore!Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:Is that how it works in Singapore? You criticize them so that Singapore can be a better place for everyone, they make remarks that cause you to lose your job like in Mr Brown's case.
He was a columnist for the Today newspapers and lost his job.
Like when people criticized TT Durai, he sued them for defamation.
How is it Singaporeans can stand this type or barbaric behavior? -
Sometimes...it's better not to think about them and just continue with your own lives. The more u think about how they rule, the more gila you will be.
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This is known as toxic leadership style. It exists in business, in the military and in politics.
What is toxic leadership?
It is a leadership approach that harms people—and, eventually, the organization as well—through the poisoning of enthusiasm, creativity, autonomy, and innovative expression.
Toxic leaders disseminate their poison through over-control. They define leadership as being in control.
What are the symptoms of toxic leadership?
In a toxic leadership environment, people are rewarded for agreeing with the leader and punished for thinking differently. In a toxic leadership environment, “yes” people are rewarded and are promoted to leadership roles, while people who more fully engage their mental resources, critical thinking, and questioning skills are shut out from decision-making and positions of influence.
Toxic Leaders
Toxic leaders receive a certain level of ego gratification from over-controlling.
They may have unresolved psychological issues (such as fear of the unknown, fear of failure, mistrust of people, feelings of inadequacy, lack of confidence, or extreme overconfidence) that they avoid by exercising toxic leadership.
The net result of all these factors is that toxic leaders fail to appreciate the uniqueness of being human, and this distorted view of human nature drives the way they relate to people who work for them. Human beings are complex, social beings, and they have intrinsic value that goes far beyond whatever salary they receive or the position they hold. They are more effective and productive, and their satisfaction level is higher, when they are treated as people—that is, when they communicate, form relationships, and exercise their creativity.
In politics, these are the people for whom no malevolent act is out of bounds in the name of gaining and holding power; who pursue policies that abjectly favor the investment class while maintaining a populist rhetoric.
The toxic leader treats people as robots, defined by whatever function the leader expects them to perform. Thus the toxic leader is dealing with only a small portion of that person.
People pick up on this, and respond by being only “partly there”—in other words, their commitment to their work and their connection with the organization are tentative at best.
Over time, they’re likely to see their work as “only a job.” So the irony is that by attempting to control every aspect of a person, the toxic leader actually controls less of the person, and thus has less control.
What effects can toxic leadership have on the organization?
In addition to diminished commitment on the part of people, toxic leadership can produce systemic damage throughout an organization. Under toxic leaders, peoplehave basically two options: conform or leave. Those who remain will experience a diminishing of expectations. Some will be aware that the situation is less than ideal; these people may keep hoping that the situation will change, or be on the lookout for the right time to leave. Others, however, may come to see toxic leadership as normal, and conform willingly. These will be groomed to be the next generation of toxic leaders! -
when was brown fired?
how can we link the firing to his criticism of the govt? -
but the old attitude of civil servants will also remain.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:What I meant was, if the whole party somehow disappears, Singapore, Singaporeans' money and the civil service remains, no? -
Why do you eat?Originally posted by Mat Toro:when was brown fired?
how can we link the firing to his criticism of the govt?
What is the consequence if you cease eating?
How can you link the consequence of not eating to the act of not eating? -
Because he was fired after writing the column?Originally posted by Mat Toro:when was brown fired?
how can we link the firing to his criticism of the govt?
Because Today has had the injustice of having its editor fired before also after a foreigner wrote an article criticising the Govt?
Surely you can put two and two together? -
big brother is watching. or rather, old uncle is watching
i guess alot of people with talents are migrating to other countries, if not why suddenly got one newspaper report saying "get experience from oversea, but join the adventure of dunno what growth in singapore" or something like that -
You sure he can put two and two together?Originally posted by Fingolfin_Noldor:Because he was fired after writing the column?
Because Today has had the injustice of having its editor fired before also after a foreigner wrote an article criticising the Govt?
Surely you can put two and two together?
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Originally posted by dumbdumb!:big brother is watching. or rather, old uncle is watching
i guess alot of people with talents are migrating to other countries, if not why suddenly got one newspaper report saying "get experience from oversea, but join the adventure of dunno what growth in singapore" or something like that
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Well, have to give him the benefit of doubt that he isn't so deluded we ought to report to Woodbridge immediately that we have a raving lunatic on the lose.Originally posted by maurizio13:You sure he can put two and two together?
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Are you sure IMH will do anything about it? Since his lunacy is based on delusions which supports the PAP.Originally posted by Fingolfin_Noldor:Well, have to give him the benefit of doubt that he isn't so deluded we ought to report to Woodbridge immediately that we have a raving lunatic on the lose. 
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True true.Originally posted by maurizio13:Are you sure IMH will do anything about it? Since his lunacy is based on delusions which supports the PAP.
But even the PAP will find this raving lunatic a bit tad too raving Judging also by his occasional insinuations of Govt incompetence. -
but old uncle said in the Jakarta forum (last couple of days) that he is used to being a punching bag wat!!! (hahaha maybe he meant by the foreigners, where he can't do anything about them...)Originally posted by dumbdumb!:big brother is watching. or rather, old uncle is watching
i guess alot of people with talents are migrating to other countries, if not why suddenly got one newspaper report saying "get experience from oversea, but join the adventure of dunno what growth in singapore" or something like that -
I wonder when can people stop voting for PAP
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oh, think that is when pay and pay stop giving sweets to people. They always have the upper hand over their opponents, because they have the law to protect them. The law is in a way instilling fear in people, so most vote them out of fear.Originally posted by bila_prem:I wonder when can people stop voting for PAP -
When we actually get to vote.Originally posted by bila_prem:I wonder when can people stop voting for PAP -
Originally posted by spinsugar:When we actually get to vote.
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Either you are over imaginative or I had fallen into the minority without my knowledge.Originally posted by qlqq9:just look at some of them who come to this forum to in their ways deter us from giving our feedback about the ruling party, you will know why they can stand the damn ruling party. Majority of singaporeans are fearful of them, the law in Singapore has instilled the fear in the people. Just read what I posted on the way they treat the SDP, we will know sometimes their doings and laws can be so bloody absurd. Law in singapore works/serves only one way. In chinese, we talk about tian li, the ruling party is the tian and the li in Singapore!