Mr. Lee's broken promises???
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Haha so do you think I care about what a smelly rag tells me? You are just a lazy pig.Originally posted by Mat Toro:why do i care what the govt says? you can ignore what they say too. you can go. please go ahead -
Hyper, or shall I call you Shutterbug? It is with mixed feelings when I know of people who were born here and who don't mind to stay on if not for the selfish gahment who care for nobody but themselves.Originally posted by HyperFocal:Yes, I am one of the new 800 leaving this place... but I wouldn't say that this is a LOUSY country...
Let me say that the country to me is ok,.. lots of food variety, can shop till you drop or pocket catch fire (whichever comes first) ... buy the latest gadget, car, or PDA phones... walk around late at night without fear of being mugged (though I'm not too sure now with all the foreigners here.. )... the Town Council that takes care of my estate is Fantastically Efficient...
but ULTIMATELY - the government SUCKS ROYALE...!!!
I will miss some friends and relative here, and as well all the sumptiously delicious (but high in cholestrol) local food and dishes... but I sure as hell won't miss the government..>!
I was born here... I will now die somewhere else....
Someone here obviously is living in his dreamland. It is definitely none of his business if one chooses to stay or leave Singapore. After all that they have done and still are doing, is there really such a need or imperative to keep thinking so well of the selfish gahmen? Could it be Mat Toro is related to those selfish jerks?
Dream on Mat Toro, dream on!!
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Great, so may you look forward to more and more coming of the FTs to compete business or job with you. Let the good gahmen of yours take good care of you!!Originally posted by Mat Toro:there will always be people leaving. It doesn't shake singapore, it just make us less rich, thats all. Its liek instead of making 100 k, we make 90k. -
YOu have to be very sure and precise to show info and statistics to support what you said above.Originally posted by Mat Toro:there will always be people leaving any company. Singaporeans are famous for job hopping.
Frankly, those who left are not even the best of singapore.
Don't label Singaporeans job hoppers if you don't have facts and figures to back up what you said. Prove to us here that those who left are not even the best of Singapore. By saying this, are you telling us that you who are still here are the best of the Singaporeans?
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Bumpz.Originally posted by qlqq9:YOu have to be very sure and precise to show info and statistics to support what you said above.
Don't label Singaporeans job hoppers if you don't have facts and figures to back up what you said. Prove to us here that those who left are not even the best of Singapore. By saying this, are you telling us that you who are still here are the best of the Singaporeans?
Tell us why are you here debating, arguing?
Time for him to back up his claims. Or is it just some personal opinions?
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he is condescending and stubborn to acknowledge facts and reality!Originally posted by bigmouthjoe:Haha so do you think I care about what a smelly rag tells me? You are just a lazy pig. -
all this while, he has been basing on his personal opinions (his bias opinions of Singaporeans) to debate and argue with the people.Originally posted by bigmouthjoe:Bumpz.
Time for him to back up his claims. Or is it just some personal opinions? -
Singapore citizens to foreigners ratio will be like 50:50 in 50 years time.Originally posted by HyperFocal:Let me ask; how many foreigners here are from China, and how many are from other countries?
Given the size of China's population, if the government ecnourages them to migrate, do business or work here, how many do you think will convert to local citizens versus those from other counries?
Then, can someone come up with the ratio at which Singaporeans are migrating outwards versus foreigners who are converting to local citizenships?
With this stat, you will be able to see what will become of Singapore some 20 years or more down the road.... and at a targetted population ideal of 6.5 million...
Personally, I believe it will become OVER-CROWDED...
There will be more foreigners than locals....
Living costs will have reached the moon by then...
... and when or should Singapore experience another Economic Downturn...
all these foreigners will be leaving in droves - leaving behind the thin core of locals who will likely be in worse crap than ever...
http://politics.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=263504&page=0 -
... right now, based on current population numbers travelling by public transport is indeed eye-opening....Originally posted by maurizio13:Singapore citizens to foreigners ratio will be like 50:50 in 50 years time.
http://politics.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=263504&page=0
I drive all the time, but occasionally when my car gets sent for servicing, I try the MRT or the bus... and OMG... it's not a wonder commuters' tempers are on edge..! It's like a stampede boarding and alighting the MRT, buses don't and cannot stop to pick up passengers at crowded bus stops, and when you do finally board it, I feel like Canned Herrings...!
The PRCs boards the MRT sits down and spreads their legs wide open and engages in high volume conversations as if they own the entire friggin train..!
By the time population here hits 6.5 mil (by then I'd be elsewhere)..., I think I dare not visit Singapore...
While the government pumps up the population with foreigners to make their monies, the people are made to suffer the consequences....
Not a wonder people are packing up and leaving by the hundreds annually.. soon, it will be by the thousands as more becomes affluent and globally mobile in search of a better living.. same thing for me... -
I read some of the PR still hanging on to their citizenship especially also those from the neighbouring countries.Originally posted by HyperFocal:Not all who left are Talents... I don't call myself Talent either, I just worked myself towards this goal...
.. right now, local parents who are common folks - their children are studying hard with the intention to study abroad and make their career there as well...
and along with them, they shall pull the parents over...
but for the majority who old or too old, or simply lack the financial resource... they will be stuck in SG to suffer whatever fates that come their way...
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Ya, the PR are not stupid too. Looking at the way the Singapore gov treat it's own citizens, they rather retain their own country citizenship.Originally posted by will4:I read some of the PR still hanging on to their citizenship especially also those from the neighbouring countries. -
I thought those PR from the neighbouring countries loved to be in here? I have many fren from Indonesia chose to retain their citizenship.Originally posted by royston_ang:Ya, the PR are not stupid too. Looking at the way the Singapore gov treat it's own citizens, they rather retain their own country citizenship. -
I believe leaving Spore for other countries not weakling. My fren from one of the Ivy leauge universities, white horse also chose to left.Originally posted by Mat Toro:don't worry, only a minority are weaklings. The rest will stay. -
I thought PAP government stance was to retain Local Singapore Talents?Originally posted by will4:I believe leaving Spore for other countries not weakling. My fren from one of the Ivy leauge universities, white horse also chose to left.
So now Local Singapore Talents is portrayed as weaklings?
Oh no!!!
We definitely don't want weaklings in Singapore!!!
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I read last year's national day rally speech in which the leader mentioned Spore got to compete with other countries for talent.Originally posted by maurizio13:I thought PAP government stance was to retain Local Singapore Talents?
So now Local Singapore Talents is portrayed as weaklings?
Oh no!!!
We definitely don't want weaklings in Singapore!!!
Please leave Singapore all you local born Singapore Talent weaklings!!!
Although talent is coming, will they stay here or leave after getting their PR? -
Thats right.Thats why i dont know whether our government are dumb or pretend to be dumb about more n more Singaporeans leave this fuking country for good.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Hey, spending money does not equate to overall quality of life.
This government cannot understand why Singaporeans choose to leave for countries with high income tax, but with a retirement welfare net in their golden years.
Can the average Singaporean hope to be a recreational fisherman or bowler at that age of 65?
Dream on. But if you want that kind of golden years, it's not going to be found here if you're in the middle-class.
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The problem is getting more serious especially with increasing ageing population, the govt hoped to increase the population u ntil six million.Originally posted by drawer:Thats right.Thats why i dont know whether our government are dumb or pretend to be dumb about more n more Singaporeans leave this fuking country for good. -
They will leave after getting PR n earn enough "pocket money".Originally posted by will4:I read last year's national day rally speech in which the leader mentioned Spore got to compete with other countries for talent.
Although talent is coming, will they stay here or leave after getting their PR? Trust me,foreigners are no dumbers,they dont want to mess with those fuk up money sucking PAP leaders. -
The government can dream on.Originally posted by will4:The problem is getting more serious especially with increasing ageing population, the govt hoped to increase the population u ntil six million. -
The govt also published the no of foreigners becoming citizen? Is it around 80000 latest citizen?Originally posted by drawer:They will leave after getting PR n earn enough "pocket money". Trust me,foreigners are no dumbers,they dont want to mess with those fuk up money sucking PAP leaders. -
going off topic ...
drifting from the Swiss Standard of Living. -
If they cannot even keep the hearts of locally born and bred Singaporeans, how are they going to keep the hearts of FTs?
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i never let the govt take care of me, i take care of myself and make my money.Originally posted by qlqq9:Great, so may you look forward to more and more coming of the FTs to compete business or job with you. Let the good gahmen of yours take good care of you!! -
wah! so many! great success!Originally posted by will4:The govt also published the no of foreigners becoming citizen? Is it around 80000 latest citizen? -
I will not say this is a total sucess cause 150000 talented people have left plus another 800 left each year.Originally posted by Mat Toro:wah! so many! great success!