[i]The disturbing trend of the malays[/i]
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Not to be mislead, the reason im posting this message has nothing to do with racism! Rather Im puzzled and 'll like to have some insights into this trend.
The area im staying in or even that of most neighbourhood sees a mark rise of malays ( mostly in the teens ) spending most of their time playing soccer, guitar hanging around in the day. Not that people of other race dun however the ratio to that of other race is significantly more. That is fine as long they do not create any social problems but if you would to take anotice of thier behaviour, most are quite ruly, making a din. Personally social interaction is fine to me as long it does not create problems to the surrounding areas.
Also I 'll like to know if there are any curbs or guidediance handed by their Guardian to help control this disturbing trend cos' they do not seem to be rather effective ( pardon ) judging from their sheer amount ( usually the trouble makers are the same people ) -
oh look..we have a racist here...
if u have nothing to post..dun post
pls be more intelligent in wat u post..obviously u r not...
so wat ur trying to do? instigate a riot?
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hey if i were u..i will go walk around n c wats happening on the street...n pls im a chinese too...n pls dun come to a conclusion tat malays r the onli one creating trouble n making lotsa of din..take a look at our local made Ah Beng n Ah Seng+Ah Lian...
they make more noise den a F-16..n create more trouble den Osama..
we all have a fair share of Pros n Cons...ur telling us ur not a racist..ur Thread oredi prove u r one.. -
Originally posted by NathanG5:oh look..we have a racist here...
if u have nothing to post..dun post
pls be more intelligent in wat u post..obviously u r not...
so wat ur trying to do? instigate a riot?
tsk tsk...
Pls do not be amused or be mistaken..Its happening and its in the place we call home. What Im posting is something vivid and real however juz Bcos' its so widely consider a taboo doesn't mean its not happening. What Im doing here is to create an awareness and hopefully understand more of thier social behavior. Its defintely not Racism And Im Not. -
so y onli tok abt malays?Originally posted by shawnshank: Pls do not be amused or be mistaken..Its happening and its in the place we call home. What Im posting is something vivid and real however juz Bcos' its so widely consider a taboo doesn't mean its not happening. What Im doing here is to create an awareness and hopefully understand more of thier social behavior. Its defintely not Racism And Im Not.
y a particular race?
y not our own chinese Ah Beng?
ur thread says it all...u r a racist...in ur eyes onli malays r creating trouble..not the chinese..im i rite?
so let me ask u...r there more Chiese Ah Beng creating trouble or r there malays creating trouble?..u answer me -
Well Im perfectly aware of what u mean...Tey are beng & Lians who create problems too. however its the ratio im refering. Do we really have to wait for government to explicit every matters as in black & white thenwe are finally able to settle for that? However as i mention earlier its widely consider a taboo and I belived its much credited to the fact that we are geographically near malaysia. Regarding to ur Pro & cons, i beg to differ...
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n so i'ii say again..y onli malays?Originally posted by shawnshank:Well Im perfectly aware of what u mean...Tey are beng & Lians who create problems too. however its the ratio im refering. Do we really have to wait for government to explicit every matters as in black & white thenwe are finally able to settle for that? However as i mention earlier its widely consider a taboo and I belived its much credited to the fact that we are geographically near malaysia. Regarding to ur Pro & cons, i beg to differ...
ratio??
u got the figure? post it den..
cmon u say it urself bengs n Lians r also trouble maker..wat ratio ur toking abt?
2malays is to 1 chinese ah beng?
or its the other way round?
n wat u mean by"Tey are beng & Lians who create problems too."
so ur now saying all malays r trouble maker?
n the ratio between trouble making Bengs n trouble making malays u cant compare?
how come ur so sure??
nobody is waiting for the govt wat? who say we r?
n how come u r so sure the govt is not doin anything?? -
Its particular puzzling that u labeled me a racist.. Let me ask, u wat really constitute someone to be labeled a racist? If voicing out social problems is one of the ingredients that that "punk" word from ur profile defintely says it all ins't it..And in regards to ur question, I 'll have to ask u if ur "pro & con' justifies the misdemeanors then i believe that wether more chinese or Malays create trouble can be easily justifiedOriginally posted by NathanG5:so y onli tok abt malays?
y a particular race?
y not our own chinese Ah Beng?
ur thread says it all...u r a racist...in ur eyes onli malays r creating trouble..not the chinese..im i rite?
so let me ask u...r there more Chiese Ah Beng creating trouble or r there malays creating trouble?..u answer me -
so ur not a racist eh?Originally posted by shawnshank:Its particular puzzling that u labeled me a racist.. Let me ask, u wat really constitute someone to be labeled a racist? If voicing out social problems is one of the ingredients that that "punk" word from ur profile defintely says it all ins't it..And in regards to ur question, I 'll have to ask u if ur "pro & con' justifies the misdemeanors then i believe that wether more chinese or Malays create trouble can be easily justified
y give all the crap telling me ur not a racist?
so now malays r social problems??
so now u think tat we r the superior race?
hey look around u...r there more bengs creating trouble or r there malays doin it?
u tell me!!!
u dun c a handful of them making din..n assume them the majority!!!
u still haven answer me!!! u have the numbers to prove??
do u have it?
so dun give me the crap tat ur not racist!!!
its obvious u r...y not u create a thread abt Ah Bengs on the street..y malays??
so we shld praise ur bravery for daring to post tis thread where no other dare to do it eh? -
I may have been a bit too rush & poorly conclude to include that ratio theory..Besides there wouldn't be any stats to find in the 1st place, But there is no deny in the fact that stats has concluded that porpotionally Malays r still the major underachivers despite the fact that they received more incentives such as where schooling & property r concern ( correct me if Im wrong )Originally posted by NathanG5:n so i'ii say again..y onli malays?
ratio??
u got the figure? post it den..
cmon u say it urself bengs n Lians r also trouble maker..wat ratio ur toking abt?
2malays is to 1 chinese ah beng?
or its the other way round?
n wat u mean by"Tey are beng & Lians who create problems too."
so ur now saying all malays r trouble maker?
n the ratio between trouble making Bengs n trouble making malays u cant compare?
how come ur so sure??
nobody is waiting for the govt wat? who say we r?
n how come u r so sure the govt is not doin anything??
Wat I mean is that there has never been any open or explict deliberations on malay problems from d government -
NathanG5 and shawnshrank we are all singapore regardless of race langauge or our religion.So i see both your arguements foolish
why don't both of u seal this discussion focus more on our defense -
i must agree that this discussion started out on a rather racist undertone...
and i don't agree that the only people playing football and causing trouble are malays. that is a rather shallow generalisation.
even if malays are more visible in playing football and sitting around void-decks (which they are not...) it means nothing other than the fact that u have a bunch of close friends who hang like to hang out at certain locations.
it should not come as a surprise that people generally make friends more easily within their own ethnic groups cos of similar language, religion, culture. i have many chinese friends i hang out with too... big deal. does that mean i have a "problem" or that i'm a troublemaker?
a void deck and a public field is a public place for people to use for whatever decent social activities they see fit to engage in.
if u don't see a chinese group at that public space (in which case u must be quite blind...) , it simply means that they'ld rather be someplace else or they've found another one they prefer to use (maybe taka? or the mac nearby?).
u're being too sensitive
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Shawnshank, may I ask how many years have you known the words of the Singapore pledge? Mummbling along, without paying attention to the words?
"We the citizens of Singapore, pledge ourselves to be a one united people, REGARLESS of RACE, LANGUAGE or RELIGION....."
You comments are directed at the Malay community only....could you dare not agree your comments is racist? Each race also got rowdy kids, can you name me a race that don't?
You are like a horse with blinkers on...can only see straight...but not the side. Before commenting, put some thoughts into your words before shooting them off.....Singapore is a multi racial society...Insensitive remarks can destroy the very frabic of friendly co-existance built up over the years. You want to return to the days of the racial riots? Think before you comment !! -
THOSE WHO ENTER THIS DISCUSSIUON
((( The disturbing trend of the malays)))))
PLS I URGE ALL TO CEASE/STOP COMMENTING.
THIS IS RACIST PLACE TO BE IN !!!!
I BELIEVE ONE DAY THIS FORUMS WILL BE SEAL BY THE GOVERNMENT AGENCY IF THIS CARRY ON
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you believe this discussion to be racist when everybody disagrees with the suggestion that "minority races are the roots of all evil"?
i think this discussion is good. it shows that we do not blindly agree with racist ideas and are capable of thinking for ourselves. -
I say the topic about singapore races is a rather sensitive.Originally posted by CX:you believe this discussion to be racist when everybody disagrees with the suggestion that "minority races are the roots of all evil"?
i think this discussion is good. it shows that we do not blindly agree with racist ideas and are capable of thinking for ourselves.
Worse this is a public forums which means any tom dick and harry can gain access to this site.If this site accessed by a racist maniac.It will only result in singapore govt or ISD take extreme cautious. -
give the ISD more credit lah!Originally posted by Mech^O^GATor:I say the topic about singapore races is a rather sensitive.
Worse this is a public forums which means any tom dick and harry can gain access to this site.If this site accessed by a racist maniac.It will only result in singapore govt or ISD take extreme cautious.
first and foremost, the majority of users here are NOT "racist maniacs" and secondly, your logic of what constitutes a "sensitive" topic is childish.
ethnicity becomes sensitive only when u feel that the other ethnic groups that you are talking about are childish, petty individuals or when the people discussing them make overt racist statements which the majority agree with and actively contribute to. this is not the case here.
i have many friends of different ethnic groups and i'm not afraid of people labelling me a racist for no good reason because it in no way reflects the reality of the situation.
this discussion is more or less the same. because the topic in no way reflects the general perception of reality and people do not agree with this shallow perception, it shows that the people here are either matured individuals or know better than to post racist nonsense here.
in fact, the word "race" is racist because it is a known scientific fact that there is no such thing different "races" of people. people are biologically the same and pigmentation only accounts for less than 1% of genetic material.
so why use "race" to describe people? i never use it myself. i prefer "ethnic" and "ethnicity". -
Please,
Shawnshank was just trying to figure out why there are many Malays being so rowdy, I'm sure he will not be that silly to openly declare himself as a racist or make us read between the lines just to figure that he's a racist (which he is not!). Well, Shawnshank what
I want to say to you is that there are actually Chinese Ah Bengs who create trouble as well. What you are seeing is actually the way Malays live their normal life. Basically, if Malays were better well off (no offence) the majority would be spending their time playing computer games at home or doing something else. You must understand that this the Malay culture, they love the brotherhood and bond between their friends and them. That is why when they gather in big groups, they might feel the group supremacy and sometimes go out of the way (i'm sure u know how it feels too). This is not a perfect society, there are bound to be troublemakers everywhere, from every different race. So... why not you just let them be? For me, I normally play street soccer with my group of Chinese friends every Saturday and Sunday of the week. Being the only group there among a 90% majority of Malays, my friends and i feel out of place. Like when we fall they laugh, they tackle hard, they don't let us into the court sometimes. So you see, it's actually when there is a dominant race group, there will definitely be some racial discrimination. I write this because i know how you feel too. Want to know where racial discriminance is present too? In my school that is. Nobody realizes that our pledge said on Fridays in mother tongue is always in Chinese, and they have not said it once in either Bahasa Melayu or Tamil. Do you think that one person from a single race would dare to openly be rowdy amongst a crowd of another race? Therefore, i would like to conclue, and kindly ask you not to continue this subject, and just let life be... as harmonious Singaporeans.
I hope i have not offended anyone through this reply, because i am still tender of age (14 yrs). -
Chinese ah beng?? Malay also got ah Beng wat. Indian also got ah beng wat. Malay slackers? Hell I know a lot of chinese slackers also wat. No point discussing this, cos I can find ah bengs of every different color and nationality. Don't criticise the race, criticise the behavior.
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THOSE WHO ENTER THIS DISCUSSIUON
((( The disturbing trend of the malays)))))
PLS I URGE ALL TO CEASE/STOP COMMENTING.
THIS IS RACIST PLACE TO BE IN !!!! -
I agree with it.Originally posted by Shotgun:Don't criticise the race, criticise the behavior. -
F-16? heh. you must be one of the poor souls living in Jurong!Originally posted by NathanG5:hey if i were u..i will go walk around n c wats happening on the street...n pls im a chinese too...n pls dun come to a conclusion tat malays r the onli one creating trouble n making lotsa of din..take a look at our local made Ah Beng n Ah Seng+Ah Lian...
they make more noise den a F-16..n create more trouble den Osama..
we all have a fair share of Pros n Cons...ur telling us ur not a racist..ur Thread oredi prove u r one..
Sorry...