Alright, so what's with the 'elites' bashing?
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Come on lets be Communists...Than problem solved...
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dun wan~~!!Originally posted by Seth35:Come on lets be Communists...Than problem solved...
me dun wanna share my things wif u... -
Ooooh, thesis. I'm just sooooo impressed. Now did you mean "thesis" as in dissertation, or as in the BS you're trying to sell as an argument? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you've managed to scam some institution into believing that you could write a thesis. By the way, junior, I was marking theses when you were looking for your first pubes to sprout.Originally posted by Where Is God:No, you are so stupid goddamnit. Have you ever written an argumentative essay before. That is part of my thesis. You don't need proof for every single line you write in your thesis.
And i never said it wasn't a rhetorical question. I said it was a question, and when you probed me further whether it was rhetorical in nature or not, i confirmed that yes it was rhetorical in nature. Period. I did not retract my statements as you suggested, which brings me to my next point.
Really, you are making a fool of yourself. Go take up English class please for the goodness of humanity.
P.S. Until you start making constructive arguments which contribute to this thread, I won't respond to your replies.
Good, so you say it wasn't a rhetorical question. We've finally got you starting to act in an honest manner.
I may be falsely crediting you with more knowledge than you possess, but you do realise that a rhetorical question by definition presents an assertion, don't you? In this case, your assertion is that people assume that "everyone who lives a good life is a Wee Shu Min".
Well, simple question (and it's not rhetorical) - where does this assertion come from? What makes you say that people think this way?
Now, little Mr Thesis Writer, if your supervisor has failed to impress upon you that your starting point requires justifcation, he really ought to be fired. The rest of your first post rests upon the assertion that people assume that "everyone who lives a good life is a Wee Shu Min". If the assertion cannot be supported, it cannot act as a premise and therefore the rest of your first post is as misguided as you are.
Lemme put in terms that are simple enough for even you to understand. If you cannot prove your starting point, the rest of your argument means jack squat because it's been pointed in the wrong direction from the get-go.
Now if you need it any simpler, I'll have to draw it in crayon for you and you'll have to ask Mommy to help you with the big words. Don't trip over yourself spouting rubbish like "argumentative essays" before you even understand what an argument is.
Your little schpeal about "You don't need proof for every single line you write in your thesis" is very amusing in its sloppiness. Sure, parts of the thesis comprise of arguments, but your capacity seems too limited to encompass the fact that whatever the arguments are, they must ultimately lead back to facts. Did you leave your fact at home for the dog to eat along with your homework?
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So i am saying that it is a rhetorical question. Double negative, you tard.
Good, so you say it wasn't a rhetorical question. We've finally got you starting to act in an honest manner.[/b][/quote]
My fcuking goodness.
Can you take some time to read properly before you shoot your mouth off. If you would, please peruse what i said ONCE MORE.
[quote]Originally posted by Where is God:And i never said it wasn't a rhetorical question.
You are stupid on so many levels, you need to see a doctor to fix your eye-brain coordination.
For the love of god, i repeat again, please shut up, you are making me feel really embarrassed about your stupidity.
If you really want to appear smart, please discuss about the topic, and not on English. I really have no interest to read on about English. [/u] -
Whoops, typo on my part. Then again, if you weren't so desperate to use a typo to get out of a tight spot, you'd have realised that the rest of my post was about it being a rhetorical. Looks like you're the dummy, tiger.
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Double-post.
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Originally posted by Where Is God:
I think u lost urself around ur arguements. "The rich had it lucky ... " , are u implying that rich = elite, or is it the other way around elite=rich? Surely, ur brain made the wrong answer.
Which part of reality? The part about life being hard? Isn't that what everyone wants? To be divorced and taken away from the harshness of life? The rich had it lucky and are up there in their satin-laced ivory chairs, but there is no reason to discriminate them for where they stand. They got ahead of the rat race, and by hook or by crook it doesn't matter. [/b]
Secondly, "they got ahead of the rat race ... " True, they got lucky n succeeded, but does that warrant them to act big n might n look down on others ? Does that warrant them to turn a blind eye to the needy or poor?
Thirdly, "by hook or crook ... " so, if i cheat all ur money n become rich, would u still treat me as equal, n not discriminate me? -
Awww, don't go throwing your toys out of the pram, boopsie. I am talking about the topic, in case you you were too dumb and rabid to realise.Originally posted by Where Is God:If you really want to appear smart, please discuss about the topic, and not on English. [/u]
Okay, once again, and in bite-sized pieces since you can only grasp the simplest bits.
Who says that people assume that "everyone who lives a good life is a Wee Shu Min"? Where's your proof?
BTW, I've edited my previous post to now correctly state "was" instead of wasn't, so you can stop wringing your hands and crying. -
No, you are the dummy. You fail to interpret my rhetorical question in context.Originally posted by Gedanken:Whoops, typo on my part. Then again, if you weren't so desperate to use a typo to get out of a tight spot, you'd have realised that the rest of my post was about it being a rhetorical. Lokks like you're the dummy, tiger.
My statement was, "So everyone who lives a good life is a Wee Shu Min now, is it?"
The important parts of this question is underlined. My assertion is, "Not everyone who lives a good life is an elitist", and not "everyone who lives a good life is a Wee Shu Min".
As a said, your eye-brain coordination suck. You can't interpret a rhetorical question properly, and you fail to read the rest of my post before claiming that i did not attempt to justify it, which i did, plainly in this statement, "That fact is, just because them 'elites' are born with a silver spoon up their mouth doesn't make them any much different from you people.". Which in layman term is, "If you would just look at yourself, you are not any different from those who are born with a silver spoon in the mouth. These people do not necessarily have elitism-mentality like Wee Shu Min.". -
Originally posted by gd4u:I think u lost urself around ur arguements. "The rich had it lucky ... " , are u implying that rich = elite, or is it the other way around elite=rich? Surely, ur brain made the wrong answer.
I think, that elites are a subset of the rich. I really don't understand the distinction between rich = elite or elite = rich. I think mathematically, they are the same.
Secondly, "they got ahead of the rat race ... " True, they got lucky n succeeded, but does that warrant them to act big n might n look down on others ? Does that warrant them to turn a blind eye to the needy or poor?
I never said i condone the action of the elites acting big. But i said that we should not discriminate the elites just because they are "divorced from reality while living it up in their ivory towers", as the Bear puts it.
Thirdly, "by hook or crook ... " so, if i cheat all ur money n become rich, would u still treat me as equal, n not discriminate me?
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He's one of those people who's got the magical ability to go into reverse and ram himself up the arse.Originally posted by gd4u:I think u lost urself around ur arguements.
We're getting ahead of ourselves here. Are we talking about "elites" or "elitists"? Is someone considered an elite necessarily an elitist? Indeed, does one have to be an elite to be an elitist?Originally posted by gd4u:"The rich had it lucky ... " , are u implying that rich = elite, or is it the other way around elite=rich? Surely, ur brain made the wrong answer.
A case in point is our little friend Where is God. He doesn't understand something as simple an the word "every", but yet he deems himself fit to call other people stupid. Being too dumb to grasp the implications of simple words, he still harbours the delusion of being in a position to berate people for being as dumb as he is, quite conveniently ignoring the fact that he is no more intelligent (if not less intelligent) than the people he's attempting to have this ludicrous debate with. Freud would have a field day with this fruit basket. -
Originally posted by Gedanken:We're getting ahead of ourselves here. Are we talking about "elites" or "elitists"? Is someone considered an elite necessarily an elitist? Indeed, does one have to be an elite to be an elitist?
My argument is framed in the context of elites, not elitists. But I'm sure in one or two posts, it drifted between the two.
A case in point is our little friend Where is God. He doesn't understand something as simple an the word "every", but yet he deems himself fit to call other people stupid. Being too dumb to grasp the implications of simple words, he still harbours the delusion of being in a position to berate people for being as dumb as he is, quite conveniently ignoring the fact that he is no more intelligent (if not less intelligent) than the people he's attempting to have this ludicrous debate with. Freud would have a field day with this fruit basket.
Well, if you have better eye-brain coordination, you would be singing a different tune. I believe you missed the post i made at 5.42 PM which clarified the fact that you indeed have bad eye-brain coordination. -
You still don't seem to grasp the intent of a rhetorical. Lemme once again cut it up into baby bites for you.Originally posted by Where Is God:No, you are the dummy. You fail to interpret my rhetorical question in context.
My statement was, "So everyone who lives a good life is a Wee Shu Min now, is it?"
The important parts of this question is underlined. My assertion is, "Not everyone who lives a good life is an elitist", and not "everyone who lives a good life is a Wee Shu Min".
As a said, your eye-brain coordination suck. You can't interpret a rhetorical question properly, and you fail to read the rest of my post before claiming that i did not justify it, which i did, plainly in this statement, "That fact is, just because them 'elites' are born with a silver spoon up their mouth doesn't make them any much different from you people.". Which in layman term is, "People who born with silver spoon in mouth, are not different from the rest. They do not necessarily have elitism-mentality like Wee Shu Min.".
The "is it" bit is irrelevant because it's a rhetorical question. By definition, a rhetorical question has a pre-defined answer. Taken in context of the rest of your first post, the answer to the rhetorical question was meant to be "yes", to provide the basis for the rest of your argument against the assumption that "everyone who lives a good life is a Wee Shu Min".
So this brings us back to the point that you're asserting that people think that "everyone who lives a good life is a Wee Shu Min". If you're not, you've either got to be out of your mind writing the rest of your first post, or you simply don't have the slightest clue about what you're doing.
So, the choice is simple:
- either you meant that people think that "everyone who lives a good life is a Wee Shu Min", in which case I'll ask for proof of that assertion, thank you very much
- alternatively, you didn't mean that people think that "everyone who lives a good life is a Wee Shu Min", in which case I'd have to ask that the f*ck you wrote the rest of your first post for. -
Originally posted by Where Is God:My argument is framed in the context of elites, not elitists. But I'm sure in one or two posts, it drifted between the two.
So you're talking about elites. Well and good.
This is what you wrote in your first post:Yes, there are arrogant rich people, but there also are arrogant poor people. There are ill-mannered rich kids, and so are there ill-mannered poor kids.
What's that got to do with elites? It certainly applies to elitists, arrogance being a characteristic of elitism, but elites?
You're misguided.
As for the other bit that you wrote at 5.42, hey, I was posting at the same time. or were you too stupid to work that out for yourself? -
Are you sure it is irrelevant?Originally posted by Gedanken:The "is it" bit is irrelevant because it's a rhetorical question. By definition, a rhetorical question has a pre-defined answer. Taken in context of the rest of your first post, the answer to the rhetorical question was meant to be "yes", to provide the basis for the rest of your argument against the assumption that "everyone who lives a good life is a Wee Shu Min".
Is this statement:So everyone who lives a good life is a Wee Shu Min now, is it?
different from this:So everyone who lives a good life is a Wee Shu Min now, isn't it?
Please read up more on rhetorical questions as a literary device.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_question[/quote] -
Originally posted by Gedanken:What's that got to do with elites? It certainly applies to elitists, arrogance being a characteristic of elitism, but elites?
You're misguided.
Hoorray! You finally understood the point of this thread. To discuss why are people bashing elites, instead of just elitists, for no reason!
Wow, you really should have asked this question earlier so i could have clarified with you and save you all the trouble.
Anything else you do not understand?
As for the other bit that you wrote at 5.42, hey, I was posting at the same time. or were you too stupid to work that out for yourself? -
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Oh, this is just too rich - you're a Wiki kid? That explains a lot.Originally posted by Where Is God:Please read up more on rhetorical questions as a literary device.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_question
The fact is that because a rhetorical is meant to elicit a predetermined answer, hell, the question mark, much less the "is it" serves no practical function. -
Uhh, like that's meant to prove something? You still haven't proven that people assume that "everyone who lives a good life is a Wee Shu Min". If you can't prove your basis, the rest of your posting is bullsh*t.Originally posted by Where Is God:Hoorray! You finally understood the point of this thread. To discuss why are people bashing elites, instead of just elitists, for no reason! -
Why can't everybody just shut up and defer to the elites?
THEY OWN YOU.
THEY have the power and money. YOU don't.
THEY can hurt you badly through lawsuits, oppressive policies, etc. YOU can only spit at them, and even then YOU will be slapped with a 'disrespect for authority' charge and made to spend the rest of your days in jail.
The only advantage YOU have over them is NUMBERS.
Read your history books and learn about the French, Bolshevik, and Xinhai rebellions.
Only through this can you ever hope to be loosened from their oppressive yoke. -
go to whinehouse ..if they want
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This is why people bash elites
or TS hope to generate more elite bashing through topics like this? -
I think, that elites are a subset of the rich. I really don't understand the distinction between rich = elite or elite = rich. I think mathematically, they are the same.
Me thinks you need English or Maths lessons, maybe both.
Or maybe I need both. -
That's a damn good point, laz.Originally posted by laurence82:This is why people bash elites
or TS hope to generate more elite bashing through topics like this? -
Haven end yet ah. I just now sleep at 430++ now 7pm wake up liao still haven end, wha lao.