Alright, so what's with the 'elites' bashing?
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Say blunt abit la gazelle, when got pipos starving n picking empty bottle cans... is it right to increase ur salary by 1 million dollars frm public money? If u makes money by ur own ability lik playin shares den nobodie quarrel wif u mah... but public money... meant to help the poor leyOriginally posted by Gazelle: -
You probably got to ask yourself if supposed you are already making million of dollars in private sector, will you want to be a ministers making the same money?Originally posted by Stoat:Say blunt abit la gazelle, when got pipos starving n picking empty bottle cans... is it right to increase ur salary by 1 million dollars frm public money? If u makes money by ur own ability lik playin shares den nobodie quarrel wif u mah... but public money... meant to help the poor ley
The difference is that if you work for private sector, you can spend your million dollars on women, bentley, watches, private jet, BLVD super penthouse etc and nobody will give a damn. However if you are minister if you get caught by some STOMP trooper clubbing at MOS, drinking at KTV, test driving a Porsche etc.. you will cause a storm in Singapore. -
tats why increase salry frm public fund by 1 million cause even more storm mah...u oredi haf the answer n wat u saidOriginally posted by Gazelle:You probably got to ask yourself if supposed you are already making million of dollars in private sector, will you want to be a ministers making the same money?
The difference is that if you work for private sector, you can spend your million dollars on women, bentley, watches, private jet, BLVD super penthouse etc and nobody will give a damn. However if you are minister if you get caught by some STOMP trooper clubbing at MOS, drinking at KTV, test driving a Porsche etc.. you will cause a storm in Singapore. -
pipos like mi won't understan wat e minister do le, but we noes u got enuf monie live in big hse, eat gd food, haf nice car nnnnn still wann more...haiz. okie bak to pickin bottles...
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Aiyoh, what's with Gazelle and his ineffectual pictures again? Let's have some really cool ones in this thread.
Not sure what Gazelle's pictures mean, but do you really want to take the images that come from such a person seriously?
Let's see what he's doing in his free time:
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Call you own stupid and meaningless picture cool, is just as good as masturabating while looking at yourself in the mirror.Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:Aiyoh, what's with Gazelle and his ineffectual pictures again? Let's have some really cool ones in this thread.
Not sure what Gazelle's pictures mean, but do you really want to take the images that come from such a person seriously?
Let's see what he's doing in his free time:
What a bloddy loser you are!! -
You know, trying to insult others with a sexual slant only adds to the weight of the impression of you being a sick-in-the-head, not detracts from it? Indeed if you were smart you would know that the best thing to do is not play into my hand by proving my point by posting what you just did... but once again you prove to be predictable.Originally posted by Gazelle:Call you own stupid and meaningless picture cool, is just as good as masturabating while looking at yourself in the mirror.
What a bloddy loser you are!!
And some facts:
I wasn't the one who made and called it cool:
You are the one who made the story.
Others were the ones who found it cool and side-splittingly funny because it was indeed a witty parody of your online antics. And indeed in that sense far more intelligent and meaningful then your pictures which are unfortunately a bland representation of the views you are trying to force on others without trying to be creative about it.
So yes, indeed these pictures are far more meaningful and intelligent then yours, and I'm not saying this to too my own horn, but really from a neutral point of view. It is without question which set of pictures contain a more interesting theme and express their point in a more creative and humourous way.
As I said, you are the instrument of your own destruction. The only way for you to damage your opponents is to show you are indeed trumping them in wit and humour, not shouting your points across in increasingly bland ways.
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Please stop acting like a SHEEP trying to defend the other SHEEP, because it makes you look really stupid.Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:You know, trying to insult others with a sexual slant only adds to the weight of the impression of you being a sick-in-the-head, not detracts from it? Indeed if you were smart you would know that the best thing to do is not play into my hand by proving my point by posting what you just did... but once again you prove to be predictable.
And some facts:
I wasn't the one who made and called it cool:
You are the one who made the story.
Others were the ones who found it cool and side-splittingly funny because it was indeed a witty parody of your online antics. And indeed in that sense far more intelligent and meaningful then your pictures which are unfortunately a bland representation of the views you are trying to force on others without trying to be creative about it.
So yes, indeed these pictures are far more meaningful and intelligent then yours, and I'm not saying this to too my own horn, but really from a neutral point of view. It is without question which set of pictures contain a more interesting theme and express their point in a more creative and humourous way.
As I said, you are the instrument of your own destruction. The only way for you to damage your opponents is to show you are indeed trumping them in wit and humour, not shouting your points across in increasingly bland ways.
Volume over quality dude, you seriously need to buck up.
Btw, what is your comments on what Atobe and Snow L said about the Budget surplus?
If those are not your picture, I wonder whos photobucket accounts are you using.
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Why get so worked up with ''stupid and pathetic stunt'' by those whom you deride as sheep - unless these sheep are more superior and more capable than a mere gazelle that has no purpose on earth except to become food and sport for the leopard's recreation ?Originally posted by Gazelle:
WOW..looks like there is really some sort of major fellowSHEEP love going on here. [/quote]
The infatuation with sheep seems to fall on your lap, as you seem to be the one putting up all the 'sheep pictures'.
All of those sheep in the pictures must be ewes that you would love to sniff - given your hyper-charged and uncontrollable sexuality.
[quote]Originally posted by Atobe:
Your reply seem to suggest that Singapore's trade surplus come only from re-exported goods, and ''doesnt come from exporting MADE IN SINGAPORE goods''.
An economics student will probably do better with the understanding of the Trade Surplus than a Gazelle pretending to be an economist.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- As usually, the SHEEP will like to create some sort of stupid assumption to twist the story, and that is why Atobe is using the word SEEM to suggest that my arguement is that trade surplus ONLY come from re-exported goods. As we all know both trade (or re-exported) and domestic export are considered as export. (Atobe, are you trying to be too smart?)
- I am not sure if this SHEEP has ever read any of the MTI report. If he does, he should have know now that Singapore is a net importer if we exclude the re-export trade, because most of the good we consumed are imported
- By accusing me of pretending to be an economist is just another stupid and pathetic stunt by the sheep trying to win an arguement. LOSER!!
The word ''seem'' was intended to soften the impact of an insult to a gazelle too lame to appreciate some pity shown.
What you claim that ''we all know'' is not reflected in the bravado manner of your reply in shooting someone else's views - can anyone outsmart the stupendous intelligence of a small brained gazelle ?
If the MTI report can be relied on, and if Singapore is a NET IMPORTER, how would you account for the annual trade surplus that Singapore enjoy ?
Will this Gazelle - {believing himself to be an Economist with an economical mind} - make a decision ?
You should be getting bad feelings if you do not know your own basics.Originally posted by Atobe:
Trade Surplus is National Revenue to the Finance Ministry, while a budget is only a plan for the balance between expected Revenue Collection and Expenses of a Government.
To enhance Trade Surplus, the budget maybe tweaked to create the environment in which the Country can enjoy further and larger Trade Surplus.
Do you think that the Trade Surplus will not end up being featured in the Budget of a Nation ?
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- If trade surplus is considered as a national REVENUE, I would like to ask Atobe to show us where is this revenue reflected in MOF financial statement.
FYI, according to MTI, the trade surplus for FY2006 is about $257b
- This sheep is saying that by tweaking the budget, a country will be able to achieve trade surplus? If this is true, then why isnt america tweaking their budget to reduce their trade deficit with China? I got this bad feeling that Atobe is confused between Budget Surplus and Trade Surplus.
Do you not know that budgets are part of fiscal policies that are also instruments to help in setting the economic environment that allow a nation to achieve trade surplus ?
If you want to introduce the complex economic relations between China and the USA - are you certain that you understand enough of the dynamics in the economic relations between these two giants, and the political dynamics of a USA that is globally involved ?
You should get a bad and sinking feeling if you wish to develop this line of thought based on your skin deep understanding of economic dynamics.
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Is that all that you can deliver with just a surface scratched understanding in the difference between ''trading (export) and domestic export'' ?Originally posted by Atobe:
At the 'Micro-level' - what is the use of the US Dollar - if after making the profit, it is not converted into Singapore Dollar for its local operational use ?
Even if a Corporation has a large holding account of US Dollar, when it is taken into Year End Balance Sheet and P+L Statement, the exchange loss or gains will still need to be considered.
If the US Dollar account is insufficient for the ordering of goods and services, it will have to be topped up by converting Singapore Dollar into US Dollar - and depending on the prevailing exchange rates, it CAN make the required goods and services to be either more expensive or cheaper.
At the 'Macro-level' - will a country continue to hold large quantities of any foreign currencie, if it continue to be negatively volatile ? Surely, it is only being clever to quickly convert from a negatively volatile foreign currency back to one's own national currency ?-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
It does looks like the SHEEP is trying to dig deeper into the unknown by divertying this discussion to mirco and macro economics. Lets see...
- Obviously, Atobe doesnt really know what is the fundamental difference between trading (export) and domestic export and that is why he is coming out all sort of stupid reasons.
1) For trading export, all you need is a trading office and you will be able to handle billions of trade without have the need to set up any factory, warehouses and paying GST. As such your arguement that companies need to convert their US$ income for local operaton is true (to pay for rental, admin cost) but WEAK!!
You mentioned alot about ''trading (export)'' but seem to have left out your definition as to what ''domestic export'' should be ?
Are you trying to split hairs between a ''trading (export)'' simply needing a trading office only to begin business; and you will expect us to believe that ''domestic export'' are manufacturing based ?
Are you disputing that trade surplus is a result of 'Export-Import' activities ?
If not, why are you digressing into a grand display of your simplistic understanding of economic terms ?
You are conveniently crossing between micro economic activities of a trading office, to macro levels of 'National Trade Surplus' in a useless attempt to wriggle your way out of a hopeless position.
Do you simply hope for my position to be WEAK with a mere word and without anyhting more substantial than with a confused reply ?Original post by Gazelle:
Are you not digressing from the original idea of 'NATIONAL Trade Surplus' based on macro-economic view with this current micro-organisational handling of their forex ?
- Large corporations with significant exposure to forex will usually
a) Hedge their foreign currency income (just like how SIA control all their forex revenue)
b) Reduce forex risk by avoiding US$ transaction (e.g. switch to Euro)
c) Balance between domestic and export business to balance the receipt and usage of US$.
Even hedging does not remove the risk of exchange losses, if you can even begin to know what are the mechanics of 'hedging'' - beyond the word used ?
If US$ is the premier currency of convenience, why will anyone want to switch to a more costly currency - even if it provides as much stability ?
Have you lost sight of the goal to increase the Trade Surplus of a Nation ?
Can an open economy like Singapore influence or limit the broad flow of foreign currency usage, when at the same time the Government will not allow the Singapore Currency to be an international currency of choice ?
Go study more about basic economics before you dabble into some specialist territories with superficial understanding.- Our country's reserved is still being kept in multiple currencies and government will always maintain that position to spread our risk. like it or not US$ is still the most traded currency in the world and it will be stupid to even try to suggest that Singapore will hold reserved in S$.
Did anyone mention that Singapore should hold reserves in S$ ? How did you come to this stupdenous conclusion ?
Again, your boastful display of a mere superficial understanding of terms merely expose the hollowness of your knowledge in the contents of your response.
Can you even begin to take the first step to know and understand the complexities involved to determine how the basket of multiple currencies are selected, and the amounts held in the different currencies are determined ?
If not, it is best that you stick to the basic understanding of Trade Surplus - with your simplistic (and laughable) statement that - ''Singapore trade surplus doesnt come from exporting MADE IN SINGAPORE good, they come from re-exported goods.''
Stick to being a Gazelle and hone your speed to outrun the leopard, and you will not always end up being a meal or a sport. -
Originally posted by Atobe:
- now he claim the word "SEEM" is to soften the impact of insult? i think he is insulting himself by trying to tweak facts to support his silly argument.
Why get so worked up with ''stupid and pathetic stunt'' by those whom you deride as sheep - unless these sheep are more superior and more capable than a mere gazelle that has no purpose on earth except to become food and sport for the leopard's recreation ?
The word ''seem'' was intended to soften the impact of an insult to a gazelle to lame to appreciate some pity shown.
What you claim that ''we all know'' is not reflected in the bravado manner of your reply in shooting someone else's views - can anyone outsmart the stupendous intelligence of a small brained gazelle ?
If the MTI report can be relied on, and if Singapore is a NET IMPORTER, how would you account for the annual trade surplus that Singapore enjoy ?
Will this Gazelle believing himself to be an Economist with an economical mind - make up his mind ?
- Again, he is trying to simply quote me out of of context
"Singapore is a net importer if we exclude the re-export trade, because most of the good we consumed are imported"
- Weather I am a economist or not is irrelevant in this discussion what is more important is that I am able to highlight the crap ATOBE is trying to lay down for other sheep to smell.Originally posted by Atobe:
- As you can see Atobe is trying twist his own word again. let see....
You should be getting bad feelings if you do not know your own basics.
Do you not know that budgets are part of fiscal policies that are also instruments to help in setting the economic environment that allow a nation to achieve trade surplus ?
If you want to introduce the complex economic relations between China and the USA - are you certain that you understand enough of the dynamics in the economic relations between these two giants, and the political dynamics of a USA that is globally involved ?
You should get a bad and sinking feeling if you wish to develop this line of thought based on your skin deep understanding of economic dynamics.
Earlier on he was trying to defend Snow Leopard claim that trade surplus is what the fund the budget. and this is what he wrote.
""Trade Surplus is National Revenue to the Finance Ministry, "" and that trade surplus will be feature in Singapore bugdet.
Obviously he has confused himself between trade surplus and budget surplus and that is why he claim the the TRADE surplus will go to MOF and the this surplus will be mentioned on Budget day.Originally posted by Atobe:
Here Atobe is trying to use the word "COMPLEX", "GIANT" "DYNAMIC" to scare off further discussion and argument on this because of his limited understanding of the topic. Trade is trade regardless of size and country and what he is trying to say is that Singapore trade is simple and not dynamic?
Do you not know that budgets are part of fiscal policies that are also instruments to help in setting the economic environment that allow a nation to achieve trade surplus ?
If you want to introduce the complex economic relations between China and the USA - are you certain that you understand enough of the dynamics in the economic relations between these two giants, and the political dynamics of a USA that is globally involved ?
You should get a bad and sinking feeling if you wish to develop this line of thought based on your skin deep understanding of economic dynamics. -
Originally posted by Atobe:
Atobe has lost sight about what he is arguing and now trying to repackage what we have been telling him to be his argument. I will let others read what he posted earlier and then decide if he is WEAK or not.
Is that all that you can deliver with just a surface scratched understanding in the difference between ''trading (export) and domestic export'' ?
You mentioned alot about ''trading (export)'' but seem to have left out your definition as to what ''domestic export'' should be ?
Are you trying to split hairs between a ''trading (export)'' simply needing a trading office only to begin business; and you will expect us to believe that ''domestic export'' are manufacturing based ?
Are you disputing that trade surplus is a result of 'Export-Import' activities ?
If not, why are you digressing into a grand display of your simplistic understanding of economic terms ?
You are conveniently crossing between micro economic activities of a trading office, to macro levels of 'National Trade Surplus' in a useless attempt to wriggle your way out of a hopeless position.
Do you simply hope for my position to be WEAK with a mere word and without anyhting more substantial than with a confused reply ?
“”At the 'Micro-level' - what is the use of the US Dollar - if after making the profit, it is not converted into Singapore Dollar for its local operational use ?
Even if a Corporation has a large holding account of US Dollar, when it is taken into Year End Balance Sheet and P+L Statement, the exchange loss or gains will still need to be considered.
If the US Dollar account is insufficient for the ordering of goods and services, it will have to be topped up by converting Singapore Dollar into US Dollar - and depending on the prevailing exchange rates, it CAN make the required goods and services to be either more expensive or cheaper.
At the 'Macro-level' - will a country continue to hold large quantities of any foreign currencie, if it continue to be negatively volatile ? Surely, it is only being clever to quickly convert from a negatively volatile foreign currency back to one's own national currency ?””Originally posted by Atobe:
Atobe has forgotten that he mentioned about his earlier statement that
Are you not digressing from the original idea of 'NATIONAL Trade Surplus' based on macro-economic view with this current micro-organisational handling of their forex ?
Even hedging does not remove the risk of exchange losses, if you can even begin to know what are the mechanics of 'hedging'' - beyond the word used ?
If US$ is the premier currency of convenience, why will anyone want to switch to a more costly currency - even if it provides as much stability ?
Have you lost sight of the goal to increase the Trade Surplus of a Nation ?
Can an open economy like Singapore influence or limit the broad flow of foreign currency usage, when at the same time the Government will not allow the Singapore Currency to be an international currency of choice ?
Go study more about basic economics before you dabble into some specialist territories with superficial understanding.
“”Corporation has a large holding account of US Dollar, when it is taken into Year End Balance Sheet and P+L Statement, the exchange loss or gains will still need to be considered”””
What I am telling him is that managing FOREX risk is part and puzzle of everyday business and companies with big FOREX exposure will have ways to minimize risk, instead of what he is trying to suggest to seat there like a lame duck blaming the government for their policy.
””Even hedging does not remove the risk of exchange losses, if you can even begin to know what are the mechanics of 'hedging'' - beyond the word used ?”””
Atobe is trying his luck to actually question me about HedgingÂ….lets see..
The only cost (NOT RISK) you have to consider in hedging is the fee, which the banks charge you, and it will fluctuate based on the amount, timing and economic condition. The benefit of hedging is that the COST of doing business is predetermine therefore it will be taken into consideration as business cost instead of forex lost!!
“”If US$ is the premier currency of convenience, why will anyone want to switch to a more costly currency - even if it provides as much stability ?””
Over here Atobe is using the word “PREMIER” to tweak the discussion and to even suggest that there is such thing as a more costly currency, it only shows his limited knowledge on international trade.
“”Have you lost sight of the goal to increase the Trade Surplus of a Nation ?””
Nah...our government budget is geared towards boosting our domestic export not just trade surplus. Because trading activities cant create enough jobs for singaporeans.
“”Can an open economy like Singapore influence or limit the broad flow of foreign currency usage, when at the same time the Government will not allow the Singapore Currency to be an international currency of choice ?”””
Atobe actually believe that it is in the hand of Singapore government to decide if S$ should be use as an international currency of choice?? My suggestion to him is please donÂ’t bring in Open Economy when you can even finish chewing what you have on your plate now!!
“”Go study more about basic economics before you dabble into some specialist territories with superficial understanding.””
I think he should direct this statement to himself
Did anyone mention that Singapore should hold reserves in S$ ? How did you come to this stupdenous conclusion ?
Atobe ””At the 'Macro-level' - will a country continue to hold large quantities of any foreign currencie, if it continue to be negatively volatile ? Surely, it is only being clever to quickly convert from a negatively volatile foreign currency back to one's own national currency ?”””
If not, it is best that you stick to the basic understanding of Trade Surplus - with your simplistic (and laughable) statement that - ''Singapore trade surplus doesnt come from exporting MADE IN SINGAPORE good, they come from re-exported goods.''
Atobe is again trying to quote me out of context without highlighting that the above state was meant to be reply to
Snow Leopard statement of “”we may be import heavy, we are export heavier, most years we achieve trade surplus, that's where we get the money for our budget “”” -
It ok lah...the pictures are very cool...does that make you feel better?Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:You know, trying to insult others with a sexual slant only adds to the weight of the impression of you being a sick-in-the-head, not detracts from it? Indeed if you were smart you would know that the best thing to do is not play into my hand by proving my point by posting what you just did... but once again you prove to be predictable.
And some facts:
I wasn't the one who made and called it cool:
You are the one who made the story.
Others were the ones who found it cool and side-splittingly funny because it was indeed a witty parody of your online antics. And indeed in that sense far more intelligent and meaningful then your pictures which are unfortunately a bland representation of the views you are trying to force on others without trying to be creative about it.
So yes, indeed these pictures are far more meaningful and intelligent then yours, and I'm not saying this to too my own horn, but really from a neutral point of view. It is without question which set of pictures contain a more interesting theme and express their point in a more creative and humourous way.
As I said, you are the instrument of your own destruction. The only way for you to damage your opponents is to show you are indeed trumping them in wit and humour, not shouting your points across in increasingly bland ways.
Volume over quality dude, you seriously need to buck up.
Bloody loser!! -
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Originally posted by Gazelle:
It is quite obvious that this SHEEP doesnt really know what he is asking and is just following what the other sheep are doing.
the closest thing to a sheep that i can find here is a gazelle. nothing more compatible than you two.
as for not knowing your stuff, keep it to yourself, we don't have to know.
1) Singapore trade surplus doesnt come from exporting MADE IN SINGAPORE good, they come from re-exported goods.
not true. re-export is only one component of our exports. manufacturing consistitutes about a quarter of our GDP. so at least a quarter of our GDP isn't re-exports.
2) For traded items, they are mostly purchased in US$ and sold in US$, any forex fluctuation between Singapore and US$ will not make the goods anymore expensive or cheaper and if your profit is kept in US$, nothing is lost
apart from commodities like oil, we do not generally receive US$ for our exports but receive singapore dollars instead. so currency appreciation would dampen our export competitiveness.
furthermore, if your argument is that goods will neither become more or less expensive, than it negates "where is god"'s argument that currency appreciation will make imports cheaper.
3) Trade surplus is not tax revenue nor profit. It is not money that goes to our budget.
if the country as a whole is buying more than it can sell, unless that shortfall is made up for by FDIs, it can only mean more government spending. so trade surplus or deficit strongly influences govt budget / deficit, as in the case of the US. -
Originally posted by Where Is God:Everyone who lives a good life is a Wee Shu Min now, is it?
I have no idea what is wrong with you people. Is it jealousy that drives you people to bash 'elites'? Or is it because of herd mentality, whereby you guys are just trying to fit in with the rest?
You know it is getting really ridiculous that every single action/behavior that is frowned upon can be attributed to one being an 'elite'.
That fact is, just because them 'elites' are born with a silver spoon up their mouth doesn't make them any much different from you people.
Yes, there are arrogant rich people, but there also are arrogant poor people. There are ill-mannered rich kids, and so are there ill-mannered poor kids.
You elite-bashing people think that it's fun to put down the elites, but remember what happened with the Tax Laws, the very promise of bringing down the rich ended up a curse for the middle and lower class. The rich were never affected as they were safe under the protection of corporations.
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Where is your brain where is god? God can't help you if you have no brain! You are the one who is ridiculous to come out with such baseless accusation of people. Please use your brain to think objectively and fairly! Where is your brain, is it dislocated at the anus that is why this nuisance from you?Originally posted by Where Is God:Everyone who lives a good life is a Wee Shu Min now, is it?
I have no idea what is wrong with you people. Is it jealousy that drives you people to bash 'elites'? Or is it because of herd mentality, whereby you guys are just trying to fit in with the rest?
You know it is getting really ridiculous that every single action/behavior that is frowned upon can be attributed to one being an 'elite'.
That fact is, just because them 'elites' are born with a silver spoon up their mouth doesn't make them any much different from you people.
Yes, there are arrogant rich people, but there also are arrogant poor people. There are ill-mannered rich kids, and so are there ill-mannered poor kids.
You elite-bashing people think that it's fun to put down the elites, but remember what happened with the Tax Laws, the very promise of bringing down the rich ended up a curse for the middle and lower class. The rich were never affected as they were safe under the protection of corporations.
So think twice before you shoot your mouth off, sheep. -
Point 1- You say elites are no different people than you and me.Originally posted by Where Is God:Everyone who lives a good life is a Wee Shu Min now, is it?
I have no idea what is wrong with you people. Is it jealousy that drives you people to bash 'elites'? Or is it because of herd mentality, whereby you guys are just trying to fit in with the rest?
You know it is getting really ridiculous that every single action/behavior that is frowned upon can be attributed to one being an 'elite'.
That fact is, just because them 'elites' are born with a silver spoon up their mouth doesn't make them any much different from you people.
Yes, there are arrogant rich people, but there also are arrogant poor people. There are ill-mannered rich kids, and so are there ill-mannered poor kids.
You elite-bashing people think that it's fun to put down the elites, but remember what happened with the Tax Laws, the very promise of bringing down the rich ended up a curse for the middle and lower class. The rich were never affected as they were safe under the protection of corporations.
So think twice before you shoot your mouth off, sheep.
I am like what the hell????
Seriously, you got to wake up your elite ideas.
I read your other comments too,
You classify people as Elites, middle-class and low-class people.
Remember our singaporean pledge that was said in every primary school?
>>We build our nations based on equality, justice....Blah blah blah.>>>
Equality can never be achieved without discrimination and labeling people.
When people are being placed a tag as a low-class or middle-class compared to the elites, how would you feel if you were the low/middle-class.
You are already contradicting yourself when you called yourselves the elites and call other people low-class.
Yet you said we are no difference.
The same logic as in PM Lee's son's recent case of going against the chain of command in the army. (I support 2LT LI)
Ranks are tags being put on a person. (I will keep some opinions to myself. You can guess what I am trying to say here)
By the way, you label people as sheep.
Does that mean you are a shepard?
The curse you are talking about is what the Rich might do to the poor?
If the rich wants to take out the frustration on the Poor?
Please be aware that the punching bag(Poor or low-class) can bounce back. (LOL, quote taken from a famous person).
Personally,
I have nothing against the elites.
I remember I wrote a letter to them saying the army is a waste of time.
Shortly after, the army's time to serve was reduced.
6 months reduced is a joy.
Some elites are not bad at all.
However, there are always black sheep among the white ones.
This time the black sheep is a majority. -
Ah that's more like it, it seems you are finally heeding my advice and choosing a different tack in your approach. Keep this up and you might start to have an effect.Originally posted by Gazelle:Please stop acting like a SHEEP trying to defend the other SHEEP, because it makes you look really stupid.
Btw, what is your comments on what Atobe and Snow L said about the Budget surplus?
If those are not your picture, I wonder whos photobucket accounts are you using.
If those are not my pictures, that would be a very bad thing for you, for it means that I am not the only one who is in the act of trumping your pictures. But as it stands the pictures I have come up with are already overkill against your attempt to image-troll, and you must admit a rather effective tool in keeping you on the sane side everytime you attempt to take a thread on a troll spree. -
Originally posted by snow leopard:
LOL good one!
It is quite obvious that this SHEEP doesnt really know what he is asking and is just following what the other sheep are doing.
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Originally posted by snow leopard:
Snow..are you certain about what you said?
Originally posted by Gazelle:
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It is quite obvious that this SHEEP doesnt really know what he is asking and is just following what the other sheep are doing.
the closest thing to a sheep that i can find here is a gazelle. nothing more compatible than you two.
as for not knowing your stuff, keep it to yourself, we don't have to know.
1) Singapore trade surplus doesnt come from exporting MADE IN SINGAPORE good, they come from re-exported goods.
not true. re-export is only one component of our exports. manufacturing consistitutes about a quarter of our GDP. so at least a quarter of our GDP isn't re-exports.
2) For traded items, they are mostly purchased in US$ and sold in US$, any forex fluctuation between Singapore and US$ will not make the goods anymore expensive or cheaper and if your profit is kept in US$, nothing is lost
apart from commodities like oil, we do not generally receive US$ for our exports but receive singapore dollars instead. so currency appreciation would dampen our export competitiveness.
furthermore, if your argument is that goods will neither become more or less expensive, than it negates "where is god"'s argument that currency appreciation will make imports cheaper.
3) Trade surplus is not tax revenue nor profit. It is not money that goes to our budget.
if the country as a whole is buying more than it can sell, unless that shortfall is made up for by FDIs, it can only mean more government spending. so trade surplus or deficit strongly influences govt budget / deficit, as in the case of the US.[/b] -
ST honestly I really have not time for you, would appreciate if you could find some where else to let go your BS.Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:Ah that's more like it, it seems you are finally heeding my advice and choosing a different tack in your approach. Keep this up and you might start to have an effect.
If those are not my pictures, that would be a very bad thing for you, for it means that I am not the only one who is in the act of trumping your pictures. But as it stands the pictures I have come up with are already overkill against your attempt to image-troll, and you must admit a rather effective tool in keeping you on the sane side everytime you attempt to take a thread on a troll spree.
Gazelle has got no time for whining loser like you. -
yesOriginally posted by Gazelle:Snow..are you certain about what you said?