PM Lee's National Day Message - a great success story.
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Absolutely spot on, Thiam.
This is the 42nd national day for the leaders to continue to blow their own trumpet of their own pretentious success. They are perhaps celebrating their success in capturing the whole electorate by fair or foul means for the 42nd years.
For the majority of citizens life is getting harder and they are not able to cope with rising costs created by our relentless leadersÂ’ self-centred system of running the government.
Yesterday there was yet another casuality of such a system of relentless system with one more citizen jumping onto the MRT track. There were countless citizens getting out of jobs because businesses could not survive the non-stop fee and tax increases to build government surpluses without any thought for the citizens.
Majority are not getting better lives as of what they earn they had to pay 40%-60% to necessity like utility, service charge, transportation, education with nothing left for three meals or retirement.
Yet our successful leaders are getting all their self-rewards of one kind or another without sparing a thought of such citizens.
I pray that there will be an honest government one day perhaps next year or perhaps next election so that such hardship sufferred for long by the citizens will be recognized or relieved.
Let us pray that we will celebrate next national day without such pretences and there will truly be more good years for the ordinary citizens instead of only for the ruling elites to blow their own hollow trumpet. -
MERDEKA! MERDEKA! MERDEKA!
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Originally posted by googoomuck:
This regime isn't far from emulating the feats of the "greatest utopia" on earth - they've taken the first step towards establishing bilateral ties with the DPRK...
[b] MERDEKA! MERDEKA! MERDEKA![/b]
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DPRK has in fact arrived and is in the golden period.
DPRK has a full moon but ours is still a cresent moon on it's ascent.
Ours got five small stars but theirs have merged into a big star.
As for the blue, still try to figure out what it stands for. -
Originally posted by robertteh:
We Singaporeans do have a lot of celebrate about. Can't you see?
This is the 42nd national day for the leaders to continue to blow their own trumpet of their own pretentious success. They are perhaps celebrating their success in capturing the whole electorate by fair or foul means for the 42nd years.
Not true, life is much better today for everyone, even the beggars.
For the majority of citizens life is getting harder and they are not able to cope with rising costs created by our relentless leadersÂ’ self-centred system of running the government.
Can you name me one country where businesses never fail and people don't pay taxes? what nonsence are you talking about Rob?
Yesterday there was yet another casuality of such a system of relentless system with one more citizen jumping onto the MRT track. There were countless citizens getting out of jobs because businesses could not survive the non-stop fee and tax increases to build government surpluses without any thought for the citizens.
40-60% for necessities shows we are rich.
Majority are not getting better lives as of what they earn they had to pay 40%-60% to necessity like utility, service charge, transportation, education with nothing left for three meals or retirement.
The govt dod take care of citizens, you didn't.
Yet our successful leaders are getting all their self-rewards of one kind or another without sparing a thought of such citizens.
We do have an honest govt.
I pray that there will be an honest government one day perhaps next year or perhaps next election so that such hardship sufferred for long by the citizens will be recognized or relieved.
we don't need to pretend we are a failure, neither do you. I hope you stop pretending next year.
Let us pray that we will celebrate next national day without such pretences and there will truly be more good years for the ordinary citizens instead of only for the ruling elites to blow their own hollow trumpet. -
Explain:Originally posted by Mat Toro:we don't need to pretend we are a failure, neither do you. I hope you stop pretending next year.
Minister pay increase
GST increase (timely indeed)
but Employers' CPF contribution not back to 20%, but instead, a variety of reasons and policies are put forward to 'stop' it
Explain:
Why all Singaporeans are treated as little kids who must be forced to save?
Explain:
75% say good score and a bit disappointed that it's not more. Yet 66.7% say good score, and happy with it.
Explain:
Wrong judgement of UNSW?
Explain:
Temasek Holdings and Thailand's telecom?
Fact:
We succeed, we fail. But are the number and severity of failures sufficient to more than override the successes such that the incumbent should be praised?
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Don't forget that the GST increase (cut corporate tax rate and increase their multi-million dollars salaries with public money) is "to help the poor".
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To help the ministers?Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:Don't forget that the GST increase (cut corporate tax rate and increase their multi-million dollars salaries with public money) is "to help the poor". -
Read that together with the topic title: "PM Lee's National Day Message - a great success story."Originally posted by eagle:To help the ministers? -
The government should just give everyone a plane ticket so that they can travel and see what's it like at the other side... -
Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:Read that together with the topic title: "PM Lee's National Day Message - a great success story."
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once i heard this :"Workers are enjoying good wage increases and higher bonuses because businesses are doing well."
i am totally turn off
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Originally posted by eagle:
You want businesses to close and singaporeans go jobless?
Minister pay increase
GST increase (timely indeed)
but Employers' CPF contribution not back to 20%, but instead, a variety of reasons and policies are put forward to 'stop' it
Many countries admire our good policy of forced savings. Its a great system to protect the people.
Explain:
Why all Singaporeans are treated as little kids who must be forced to save?
Thats majority. Learn to respect majority.
Explain:
75% say good score and a bit disappointed that it's not more. Yet 66.7% say good score, and happy with it.
The govt tried its best to bring UNSW over. But the new chancellor of UNSW screwed up.
Explain:
Wrong judgement of UNSW?
It was great buy for Singapore.
Explain:
Temasek Holdings and Thailand's telecom?
What is your criteria and basis for making those statements? please explain so we can understand you.
Fact:
We succeed, we fail. But are the number and severity of failures sufficient to more than override the successes such that the incumbent should be praised?
sure, but just because govt don't accept your opinion does not mean they are wrong.
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Sigh! What is so encouraging and new about his crap talk? It is nothing but all crap.
I am expecting him to say something to see if he attempts to justify the filthy undeserved high pay he gave himself on National Day Speech (usually one week after National Day, I am not referring to the one yesterday).
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So GST won't affect business too? Hmmm... And isn't the economy already good as claimed by our dear govt?Originally posted by Mat Toro:You want businesses to close and singaporeans go jobless?
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Increasing Minister's pay is absolutely necessary?
If CPF don't increase, the top earners of the economy will earn even more, and thus minister salary, being pegged to the top earners, will increase.
That businesses will close and singaporeans will go jobless... does that still hold when the economy is supposed to be running well?
Who is the country. PAP or the citizens. Forced savings may be beneficial to both the government and the economy, but do the citizens really want it? Do we want to be able to withdraw it only when we have no more time or energy to spend it?Originally posted by Mat Toro:Many countries admire our good policy of forced savings. Its a great system to protect the people.
Well, the majority of the people replying you here think you are wrong. Are you even respecting us?Originally posted by Mat Toro:Thats majority. Learn to respect majority.
And my point here was not about majority. It is about the small margin against WP's new faces who were not campaigning much at all.
The govt tried its best to do many things which also screwed up. Having tried your best was never an excuse for mistakes.Originally posted by Mat Toro:The govt tried its best to bring UNSW over. But the new chancellor of UNSW screwed up.
Of course, after causing so much disruption in Thailand.Originally posted by Mat Toro:It was great buy for Singapore.
I think it is only you who do not understand. Do not use 'we'.Originally posted by Mat Toro:What is your criteria and basis for making those statements? please explain so we can understand you.
The government has never really admitted to any mistakes they have made. So in your opinion they are never wrong because they don't admit it?Originally posted by Mat Toro:sure, but just because govt don't accept your opinion does not mean they are wrong.
So far, I've only seen LKY admitting his mistake in not letting casinos in... Is that to facilitate his son's insistence to build the casino? -
Eagle, this Mat Toro person is absolutely nothing but crap, nuisance and most of the time he doesn't seem to base on reality to debate with the people here. lack of knowledge on reality still dare debate with people and side his beloved pay and pay like there is no tomorrows.Originally posted by eagle:The government has never really admitted to any mistakes they have made. So in your opinion they are never wrong because they don't admit it?
Oh yeah, Mat Toro, are you going to the stadium later to kiss the MIWs and profess your love to them? -
Mat Toro, are you going to the stadium to kiss the MIWs and profess your love to them?
Go tell them you are a lackey and see what reward they will give you!! -
I was thinking... if the WP has won the Aljunied GRC, would the GST still be increased to 7%?Originally posted by qlqq9:Eagle, this Mat Toro person is absolutely nothing but crap, nuisance and most of the time he doesn't seem to base on reality to debate with the people here. lack of knowledge on reality still dare debate with people and side his beloved pay and pay like there is no tomorrows.
Oh yeah, Mat Toro, are you going to the stadium later to kiss the MIWs and profess your love to them?
I'm waiting for the next election. PAP's popularity is constantly on the decline; their 'support' lies mainly in the much older generation and those in government service who fear for their jobs. They won all the parliament seats except for 2. However, this is not at all a good gauge of support because it does not correlate with the popularity support. -
Just ignore Mat Taro and Gazelle. As you know there are jobs in this world where by they have to carry out rubbish knowing it's rubbish and to defend rubbish. Don't be disrupted by them.
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GST is actually good for businesses, otherwise the businesses would be taxed higher.
So GST won't affect business too? Hmmm... And isn't the economy already good as claimed by our dear govt?
Yes, in the long run. Absolutely.
That businesses will close and singaporeans will go jobless... does that still hold when the economy is supposed to be running well?
many countries, even teh western ones and for good reason.
Who is the country. PAP or the citizens. Forced savings may be beneficial to both the government and the economy, but do the citizens really want it? Do we want to be able to withdraw it only when we have no more time or energy to spend it?
do you know that parts of China is also copying our CPF system?
We withdraw it when we need it. Do you want us to have nothing to spend when we really need it? Do you know that people at 60 are very active and can live to 80 nowadays? Who is going to feed all these people? You?
Did you do a survey? What is your sample size?
Well, the majority of the people replying you here think you are wrong. Are you even respecting us?
it was clearly unsw who screwed up this one, not the govt. so why blame the govt?
The govt tried its best to do many things which also screwed up. Having tried your best was never an excuse for mistakes.
We didn't cause any disruption there, they caused it themselves.
Of course, after causing so much disruption in Thailand.
So what is your criteria and your basis? cannot answer once challenged?
I think it is only you who do not understand. Do not use 'we'.
not true that the govt never admitted mistakes.
The government has never really admitted to any mistakes they have made. So in your opinion they are never wrong because they don't admit it?
its true you never admirtted your mistakes.
nope, he was just honest. are you honest?
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Eh, i confuse lah unker.
You keep saying 'We' din do this and that wrong.
Who is 'We'?
Who are you representing? Who are you speaking on behalf of? Conform leh.
You officially representing who?
Wa, keep using 'We' like no mother's business ah. -
I digged out this data
GRC 4-5 men team
2006 66.6% 37 walkovers
2001 75.3% 55 walkovers
1997 65.0% 47 walkovers
1991 77.2% 41 walkovers
Small GRC 3 men team
1988 61.8% 11 walkover
No GRC
1984 62.9% no walkover
1980 78% no walkover
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Sheesh Mat, are you so thick-skin enough to go around in new threads after you cannot support your personal views in previous threads?
People stop responding to him, he is nothing more but a pro-terrorist pro-taliban extremist. -
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at your commentsOriginally posted by Mat Toro:GST is actually good for businesses, otherwise the businesses would be taxed higher.
Yes, in the long run. Absolutely.
many countries, even teh western ones and for good reason.
do you know that parts of China is also copying our CPF system?
We withdraw it when we need it. Do you want us to have nothing to spend when we really need it? Do you know that people at 60 are very active and can live to 80 nowadays? Who is going to feed all these people? You?
Did you do a survey? What is your sample size?
it was clearly unsw who screwed up this one, not the govt. so why blame the govt?
We didn't cause any disruption there, they caused it themselves
not true that the govt never admitted mistakes.
its true you never admirtted your mistakes.
nope, he was just honest. are you honest?
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So what is your criteria and your basis? cannot answer once challenged?
There's a whole list of articles in my cupboard which I'm too lazy to take out.
List the number of successes that you think PAP has achieved, and we will let the forumers here list another failure that PAP has done. There's no need for us to use our brains and energy so much if you cannot substantiate your beliefs here.